So if your friend lost 5 stone in 6 months .. would you wonder how ?

Weight Watchers in the US is now offering a medical program. It may be less expensive.

My sister and I are 2 sides to a coin. I struggle to maintain even a minimal amount, not even reaching the minimum my doctor wants as healthy. (My doctor wants me at 124-138. This month I weighed in at 121.) My sister struggles on the other side with diabetes and near obesity. Even with insurance paying for part of Mounjaro she was struggling cost wise.
We got her into the Weight Watchers program, it's partially funded by her insurance. I gave her a 3 month gift of membership. Weight Watchers reinforces the healthy eating that she needs.

There are law suits underway at the moment. A quick Google or even a read of the small print will tell you the risks.

Common Mounjaro side effects include digestive distress, such as vomiting, diarrhea, constipation and nausea. More severe side effects of Mounjaro include acute organ failure, pancreatitis, diabetic retinopathy and gastroparesis. Animal studies show an increased risk of certain thyroid cancers.

I get that weight loss is a very emotive topic. I completely get why individuals would love a miracle cure.

Notice the Op has not come back to refute the claims that they are not entirely who they say they are.

The risks are very small

About one hundredth of taking paracetamol
(Paracetamol is a very dangerous, very common drug)

Birth control pills have more side effects

Well it’s a very generous offer and i’d do the same if it came to it for my best pal of 40 plus years who is very overweight, and has been for some years but now we are fast approaching 50, it’s starting to affect her a lot. I do wonder if she will (or is, we don’t discuss her weight as its a sensitive subject) go on this. I do think she needs to do something, she’s got a lot on her plate with young kids and sick elderly parents, and a job) so things like slimming world she struggles to make the meals and cook family dinners.

The title here makes me think this is an ad.

I dunno. There were ancient societies where having a hugely obese king or queen was seen as a good thing. The Venus of Willendorf is thought to be more than 29,000 years old.

And?

I am dyslexic. Assuming you are not, if we took the same exam and I was given more time would you be saying ‘well I can do it. My study of one says it can be done in x amount of time so everyone should be able to’

I used to think smug shit like this. Then I got a severely disabling illness this twas triggered by a bad case of covid

Second sharing on this thread.

There is some sanctimonious bullshit in this thread. Whiffs of 'well I just quit smoking cold turkey, you're just weak & I'm wonderful' 🤮

Or just may be I'm concerned that people are using drugs in their body unnecessarily that can have life threatening side effects and don't address the real issue, because as a pp said, if you can't normally regulate your food intake you may well be on drugs for life.
The side effects of this drug, blocked bowel (leading to needing a stoma), thyroid cancer, gallstones, etc etc. Not to mention what does restricting the blood sugar level in a non diabetic long term do? We don't know.
People are being peddled this drug when long term the resolution lies with restricting and moderating your own food intake.

The reason everyone in the US and UK aren't slim yet is because so few people are on it. And those that are have a lot to lose so are not yet there.

Well, obviously. But this case study of one manages it whilst working 200 miles from home half the time, studying a degree, raising a teenager, maintaining a home without any outside help, keeping a dog walked and fed, working out 4-5 times a week and maintaining an active social life.

But you can’t just not eat.

I don’t drink for the same reason as you. But it’s easy to not drink. You don’t need to drink at all.

But that’s not the case with food.

ittook9years

You've seen studies that Mounjaro causes cancer and diabetes and is a killer ?

Is that why people in the US are all slim and they don’t have an obesity problem?

I assume they don’t have alcoholics or drug addicts either?

You would be ridiculous to offer to pay long term this amount of money for a friend for this reason. A one off to help save a roof over someone’s head maybe. But this is ridiculous, imagine you fall out one day and you have been subbing her for five years. Or you have a sudden drop in income and can't afford it.

ekakf

Yeah, but you don't have to drink alcohol

You DO have to eat food (or you die)

Apart from the people that will get cancer and other chronic diseases from Mounjaro, of course.

drybiscuit

Eating 600 calories a day is causing me to lose one pound a week

It's very unfortunately healthy for ME.

I am not lucky.

You still have to eat the calories though. I'm predisposed genetically to alcoholism so I don't drink.

Except trying to live on locally grown seasonal vegetables isn’t really realistic when people also have job.

locally grown, seasonal produce is usually quite expensive.

Not sure if there was a CoL tens of thousands of years ago or how they managed to hunt and gather, whilst also having to work full time AND travel. And take their kids to hobbies and to school and so on.

I’d offer to pay for a year. Leaving it open ended like that is risky - your circumstances could change, you could fall out, it could change the power dynamics of your friendship. In your shoes I’d offer her a very generous Christmas present of the drug for a year and then this time next year, if it’s all going well, you can give it to her again.

No, I wouldn't pay for unnecessary medication that has as yet unknown long-term side effects for someone who has had the medical help they need and now needs to change their lifestyle permanently to live in a healthy way.

summersnowstorm

You've not read my post. Obviously anyone can afford the food to put on weight when they can only eat 800 calories without putting on weight - that literally half a pizza

You think it's fair for me to pay £200 a month for the rest of my life to prevent obesity when I am not able to eat more than 800 calories without putting on weight ? Have you any idea how hungry a normal person is if they're only allowed 800 calories. Mounjaro takes away that hunger so I stay a healthy weight.

This drug will save fortunes for diabetes, heart disease, cancer, strokes, thyroid disorders

Obesity is a killer