So if your friend lost 5 stone in 6 months .. would you wonder how ?

I think it would be kind of you, but for your own sake I think you should cap it - for example, for a year. Unless you're super rich you will have your own expenses and commitments as like goes on

Mounjaro list of side effects include acute organ failure and cancer.

As someone who is in a similar situation as your friend I think you are amazing ! I’ve lost 3 stone on Mounjaro with another 2 to go . I’m looking and feeling so much better . It’s now got to the stage it’s getting more expensive on the higher dose but I’m going to afford it whatever . I’m not rich but have a part time job and husband is the main earner so my wages cover it . I’m not left with a great amount after but the happiness is worth it . I’m hoping to carry on with a maintenance dose once I lose what I want to . I think your friend will jump at the chance. Maybe you could offer to subsidise her funds , and say you’ve seen her change and are very proud of what she has achieved and you’d like to help . Just be totally honest with her . It’s easy for those without a weight problem to understand how the medication works, it really is a game changer , I’ve been doing diets for years and nothing has helped as much as this. My GP is happy for me to take it and is also monitoring me . Hopefully it will eventually get prescribed , my GP said there are plans to but it’s the funding on the NHS . It’s perfectly safe to take . I’ve actually got good eating habits as I’ve trained myself to get into a healthy eating pattern , much easier when you are not always starving !

Sounds like an ad.

You don’t actually know that.

I know people who haven’t known they had it until they tested. One was testing for a holiday and found out she had it. No symptoms. Unless you have been testing every week for almost 5 years you might not know.

Let’s go back to your study of one. Do you have a DH? That is home with teenager while you work away? I assume he also takes on the majority of housework? Dual income household?

So your whole argument about you being able to do so others should when I pointed out that many people don’t have the money or time to eat locally seasonally produced food, doesn’t make sense.

Neither does the whole thing about people having time either. You have one older child. And work away. So do you own a second property that you live in so you can go shopping and cook all your own sesonal locally sourced produce? Or do you spend a lot on food cooked for you.

Do you see what I am saying about it not being a level playing field? About how your study of one has no impact.

Because YOU have time and can afford locally grown and seasonal and high quality protein doesn’t mean that everyone can. Because people have different lives, different disposable incomes and so on.Your life isn’t the same as a single parent on a low income with 2 kids is it?

What would I think?
People spend their money in all sorts of ways I don't want or need to. Nothing to do with me if they spend their money this way as long as it's legally gained & spent money & doesn't involve harming others.

Gift idea
I guess you'd have to talk with her pretty openly about if you expect something in return ... I mean, what if she wastes your gift? Gains weight all back... is that ok? You need to make a big space for whatever to happen.

It's generous of you but gifts like that can change friendships. Not risk free.

In what world does 22-14=5?

Some people do, some don't. I've done loads of big and small things for people (including strangers) for no reason at all. I've equally accepted favours from others (not the same people) when I feel I needed it. Some people don't need a reward or ulterior motive to do things for people.

Based on your last post though, some obese people also didn't get covid. Does that mean their diet also gave them some sort of improved immunity?

If it was me/if I was her - I would say no. I would find ANY friend offering me nearly £200 a month for nothing really unsettling. Something just wouldn't sit right with me about it. It's just a bit weird. It can't just be me who thinks this!

Why don't you . I am sure you can make a fortune from your "no need for vaccines" diet....

Not immune at all. As I said, I lost 3 stone (unintentionally, just happened as part of being more mindful about what I eat and when). The weight was there to lose.

I don't think that you should make this offer because it will affect your relationship. No good deed goes unpunished and at some point this will come between you.

Your friend will find £189 a month if she wants to. With her much improved health she can do some overtime or work a second job.

I have read about a couple of people who stopped taking the weight loss jabs because emotional eating was their coping mechanism and it took that away and they missed it. Your friends weight journey belongs to her alone and you should stay out of it.

If you want to treat your friend with much less chance of it coming between you take her on holiday or something... although I have read many threads on here about friends who go on holiday together and then can't stand each other so even that is not a safe bet for your friendship.

Define healthy.

All hail thee! 🙌🏼 Super diet and super immune to illness and obesity.

@ItTook9Years Weight loss increases the risk of gallstones which, in turn, can cause pancreatitis. It may just be a risk of the weight loss caused by the drug.
Interestingly people who lose weight on other diets, like Weight Watchers, Slimming World, etc also have those increased risks but nobody records them so we have no way to compare if the risk is higher with GLP1s or not

My diet was was very healthy and so was my lifestyle. It's just weirdly ignorant to even assume it wasn't.

Would appear so.

You’re the real life Superwoman clearly.

Amazingly, I’ve still not had Covid. At all. Despite working the whole pandemic on a clinical site.

Maybe my diet gives me some sort of improved immunity.

She had probably saved a proportion of the money on food if she was a binge eater. However, she will likely need a maintenance dose for life. I have found with a similar drug that it does become less effective with time but if it stops you returning to morbid obesity it is worth it.

This is the issue.

Yea lawsuits are underway.

that doesn’t actually mean anything. Gastroparesis, as an example, is more common in diabetics anyway.

Filing a lawsuit doesn’t mean there’s merit in it.

But quite frankly non of that changes why obese people become obese. It’s not a choice between just turning off a switch or Mounjaro. If people could turn off the switch, don’t you think they would do that instead.

Like I am sure most alcoholics would just switch off being an alcoholic if they could.

Concern. Gotcha.

The risk of thyroid cancer is mentioned as some mice developed thyroid cancer during trials. There have been no instances of thyroid cancer in humans (yet). Obesity, however, has been proven to increase the risk of getting cancers such as;

Endometrial
People with severe obesity are seven times more likely to develop endometrial cancer
Esophageal adenocarcinoma
People with obesity are 4.8 times more likely to develop esophageal adenocarcinoma
Gastric cardia
People with obesity are twice as likely to develop gastric cardia cancer
Liver
People with obesity or who are overweight are twice as likely to develop liver cancer
Kidney
People with obesity or who are overweight are twice as likely to develop kidney cancer
Multiple myeloma
People with obesity or who are overweight are 1.1–1.2 times more likely to develop multiple myeloma

In relation to the your cancer more recent studies (I think it was a Swedish study) contradicts that it raises a risk.