So if your friend lost 5 stone in 6 months .. would you wonder how ?

It isn't simple, PrincessofWells knows that! Why so many people are overweight is the CONSTANT suggestion of food's deliciousness in society today, and the easy to eat phenomena. That is why so many people are overweight, that and they simply can't get or don't have the fortitude to stop eating, start exercising, and quit focusing on food as entertainment. We won't live in a physically challenging world anymore. Agree with PrincessofWells, that the formula for getting and staying at a good weight is "simple" but getting oneself to DO what it take is quite the opposite. For example: once I was full grown at age 17 I weighed 150 pounds and was a US size 8-10; 5'7". With EACH pregnancy I gained: 30lb; 40lb; 50lb; 70lb. I lost all the weight after each pregnancy. How? I stopped eating by 1/2-3/4 and began rigorous exercise after childbirth recovery of 6 weeks. When I got divorced at 59 (after a 30 yr marriage) I found I weighed 170 lbs rather than my "ideal" 150; stress caused me to gain weight. What did I do? I stopped eating 1/2-3/4 and began rigorous exercise. I got back down to 150. It isn't EASY to lose weight; it IS however, simple. Diet and exercise, change eating lifestyle. I never touch white bread, butter, sugar BECAUSE my brain loves them like some addicts love cocaine or heroine. Food can become an addiction, but it is no excuse to NOT eat right, what is good for you and to exercise nearly every day. We must do this or die a slow, painful death.

You can offer this financial help if you want to; she's your friend and you can probably guess how she'll respond. As others have said, paying for the drug might be an important part of her weight loss and perhaps she has a plan for how she'll cope when her goal is reached. And is it recommended to stay on the drug long term? I think you should be a bit cautious about getting involved in this way.

We are nearly at the end of 2024. So you could have had it. You could ah e missed having in yeh last 2 years.

So the house you run, you run it with another adult. Funny how your ‘study of one’ failed to mention him.

If you can afford to be cooked for while you work away, you are in a more fortune position than most people. Which is what is said.

Yes you did say that. I said that not everyone can afford or have the time to do locally sourced seasonal produce and high quality protein. You came back with your study of one proved it could be done because you did it. All whilst failing to mention that you have another adult and another income.

You left him out on purpose. Your study of one post was designed to make it look like you managed this hectic lifestyle so everyone could. You mentioned that you got no outside help though. Funny that. Fact is you likely have a much higher household income than most people AND you also have another income AND adult helping with all those things you claimed just you did.

So my point stands. Most people do not have the finances and time to be able to eat high quality protein and locally sourced seasonal vegetables and fruit. You, in your provided position, are able to. You are not the representative of the cast majority of people, completely out of touch and enjoy trying to manipulate people by presenting yourself in certain ways to attempt to prove a point.

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I've not heard of any brain issues with the drug?

If you're asking how I feel? Much better not being hungry when I can only eat so little without gaining weight

Being hungry and knowing you can't eat is very hard, and was a very hard way to live for so many decades

Any use of medication is about weighing the possible risks and the possible benefits. Obesity has it's own long term risks which can include early death. From WHO long term effects of obesity include, cardiovascular disease (mainly heart disease and stroke), type 2 diabetes, musculoskeletal disorders like osteoarthritis, and some cancers (endometrial, breast and colon)

People all over the world are on medications that have potentially horrible side effects including possible death because it is safer and better for them to take those risks then to face the risks from not taking the medication. A statement like this is worthless, you need to look at the studies and the underlying data and compare outcomes at a population level plus look at the specific instances in which these side effects have occurred and whether they were caused in part by comorbidity as a long term outcome of the very reason the person was taking the medication.

Not any better than taking speed? An illegal, recreational drug? Now you’re just embarrassing yourself.

Surely asking for proof and informing your GP would mean you’ve picked the right provider ?

Which ones don’t do this?

Only if you pick the wrong provider.

I’ve tested fortnightly on average since 2022. Had to test daily 2020 to 2022 and weekly blood tests due to being on the clinical site.

So it’s not likely I’ve missed having it.

Yes, I have a DH. And a neurodivergent DD. DH also travels for work and has a more than full time job. DD is 13 so still needs significant parental input. No, DH doesn’t do the majority of housework. He does it all when I’m not there, I do it all when he isn’t there and we share it when we are both at home.

No second property so have to source food out and about among the meal dealers and fast fooders.

I’m not saying everyone should do the same. I’m saying that improved education around diet and health has better long term prospects for most people compared with quick fix, off-label medication. It’s not really any better than taking speed.

How is it irrelevant?

The fact that obesity is so damaging to health is the reason these drugs have been licensed for weight loss.

Thats like saying the impact of a headache is irrelevant, because look at the side effects of paracetamol.

and paracetamol can kill you.

Why are you so bothered. Who cares what people think.
Leave her to it and stop obsessing about her life

It is a very kind offer, I've paid for things for my bestie before when she was having a rough time and she had for me. If you can afford it, I would.

You really need to share your insider info on how it is very dangerous and can kill you with the MHRA who have authorised it as safe. You clearly know more than them.

The long term effects of obesity are very relevant when they have been proven to increase the risk of cancer in humans (not mice).

OP is most likely an ad.

Clickbait title that bears no relation to the content.
Posts are even more advertisement for the drug - both her friend and her lost weight in a short space of time with little effort.
'Amazing', 'incredible', 'new found sense of self confidence'
Both her friend and her did not have side effects.
Cost of the drug is 189 per month without discount (no doubt there will be a discount)
OP did not even need a maintenance dose.
So great she even wants to buy it for her friend.

What's not to like?

Very dangerous? Please, share where you got this information from.

Yes I know that logical fallacy very well it's called false equivalency. Unfortunately it makes little sense. The fact remains that the injection is very dangerous and can kill you. The long term effects of obesity are irrelevant.

And that's judgement just for taking it, never mind the shock and horror if they think she's putting too much of her budget into it because they know she can't afford it.

Exactly this.

Oh, @ItTook9Years if only we could all be as perfectly well-regulated as you are! However, it seems that your perfect regulation came complete with an empathy bypass. Doesn’t it ever occur to you that if it was easy to lose weight and maintain weight loss we wouldn’t be in the midst of an obesity crisis? Why don’t you just stick to doing you and let other people do what works best for them without being burdened with your Ill-conceived judgements?

How good is that for your brain though?

I can’t decide if it’s arrogance or ignorance that would have someone take their one, sole experience of life and be convinced the 1 in 8 people struggling with obesity globally should just do what she does. That’ll fix it.

It’s probably both.

Yes people know. Though as above some of the thyroid cancer increased risk is being challenged by new studies.

So does obesity. So if people want to make the decision that’s right for them, wether that is take it or not, it’s their business. Either or is a risk.

Side effects of Obesity are acute organ failure and cancer.

I tried one of those treatments for a while, I stopped not only because of the cost, but it completely changed my brain to not being bothered about eating if I didn't have anything in, and I was able to last on a latte sachet until mid afternoon when I'd eventually eat. Everything internally slowed down and I was getting uncomfortable indigestion even in the morning. I eventually decided it wasn't a healthy way to lose weight, so I stopped.