To think that the middle classes are liars and actors?

My guess is we have a very bored student who has devised a new drinking game.

Every time he/she/AI says something controversial/ignorant/ridiculous take a sip, Every time somebody gets sucked in and replies in the same vein, take another.
It’ll soon be Christmas, and not a street wise man in sight..
Cheers!

It's called social mobility 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

This is the most ridiculous post I’ve read in a while. God forbid people want to do well for themselves and improve their lot. Do you expect people to walk around with a banner saying ‘I’ll never forget I was born on a council estate, pinky promise’. It’s not a club!!!!! Get a grip OP. Your post stinks of resentment.

How much does your own class depend on your parents'?

Is the woman with the nice house not mc because she grew up in a council house with often unemployed parents?

Jane Austen was an intelligent and perceptive observer of manners and social life. She was not bitter or had rigid ideas about what people should be like. OP you come across as not only extremely snobbish - inverted snobbery - but also judgemental and critical and jealous. If someone has become middle class why should they not be middle class? Why do they need to reflect their grandparents' background? It makes no sense.

Ummm

Op you need a hobby!😂

I’m not sure what your post is meant to be getting at. Are you expressing annoyance at people pretending to be posh when they aren’t? Like Hyacinth Bucket. A lot of people do that, not only who you would deem middle class.

Is it okay then for people to be snobby if they are from an upper class background? (I don’t think you are saying that) I mean I don’t like people who pretend to be better than others, but I think you get that from very rich but also very poor people.

Are you saying that if you were born working class those in the next generation should also stay within working class? I am from a working class background, but you probably would describe what me and DH have as middle class. But then we don’t go around pretending to be posh.

Am really not getting the point of your post

It's also somehow one of the most MN OPs I've read here on MN.

@MargaretBrewer perhaps a bit jealous???

The majority of the Uk 'works' surely?

Good grief! 😅

The 'middle class' didn't exist until the Industrial Revolution when a number of people who made money through industry decided to tried to emulate the lifestyle and tastes of the upper classes in order to desperately distance themselves from their working class origins and appear better than others.

Everyone who claims to be 'middle class' is terribly conscious of what they are doing, wearing, saying, where they holiday etc lest they be perceived as <shudder> working class.

That's why the whole middle class debate that crops up on MN is so entertaining - it reeks of insecurity. And it's all smoke and mirrors...

Exactly what I was thinking

The only things that are weird, are your preoccupation with class, and your inability to realise that people, who may have what you think are menial jobs, are often highly intelligent and can improve their own financial situation and that of their children. Which leads to a better education and more opportunities.

WTF?

I get referred to as middle class because I suppose I live a middle class lifestyle. People
can’t believe it when I tell them I’m actually from a working class background. My father built up his business and we lived a good life growing up but we’re still working class. My friend went to boarding school but her family were working class, she has a different accent to her parents so people are shocked when they find out she’s from a working class background.

what makes you middle class? From looking at the standard definitions I would think the majority of UK is middle class.

Bloody hell, who rattled your cage.

Get a grip of your inferiority complex.

But all those things are fun and enjoyable things to do if you have the money to do them. The working classes don't tend to do them because they cost a fucking fortune not because they don't want to be rumbled for masquerading as middle class.

I think you’d implode if you met me OP 😂 grew up penniless in a council house, now own a 5 bed… love drinking Earl grey and tending my herbaceous borders, but still enjoy a sweaty rave at the weekend… accent swings from terribly posh to full Essex depending on who I’m talking to! I’d love to know how that fits into your parameters 🤣

I’m thinking chip/shoulder (massive).

OTOH it does make a change from decidedly MC people (especially politicians) falling over themselves to claim WC roots. Not that MN is without those saying they’re ‘proudly’ working class. Why ‘proud’, I always wonder? What have you done to achieve it? Or were you asked before birth what class you’d like to be born into - ‘Ooh, working class please! Don’t send me to any horrible MC family - I couldn’t bear it!’

This certainly is one of the more ridiculous OPs I've read here on MN 😂

The single woman who is a writer with artistic flair should know her place🤣🤣🤣
Presumably she couldn't care less that her father was a welder ( apart from feeling sorry that he never enjoyed the advantages he obviously gave her).
Who knows.. maybe he wrote poetry in his spare time.

I’m the same. My accent shifts from bland with a slight twang when I’m down south where o live to full on Black Country when I talk to my family. It’s not a conscious thing. I don’t even hear it though others do.

as for it being the sign of being musical…that must be true as I have the voice of an angel 😉

Gosh I'm not surprised you changed your name before posting such an embarrassing OP