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Refusing to provide details of funeral

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TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:21

My stepdaughter, whose beloved step-grandma passed recently, is being refused the funeral details. Her step grandmas new partner before she passed doesn’t consider her to be family and so is refusing to provide her with the funeral details. She’s very upset over her step grandmas passing and would love to attend her funeral to pay her respects and say goodbye. They (her partner) are refusing to give her the funeral details though so she can’t attend if she doesn’t know when or where the funeral is. She’s very upset at the thought of not being able to attend her funeral. AIBU to think it’s cruel of them to refuse to give her the funeral details like this? My stepdaughter is very upset over it and over the thought of not being able to attend the funeral because they won’t give her the funeral details.

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AllAboutNiamh · 04/10/2024 23:04

Blimey. They don’t want her there. Why would she go and potentially cause upset? She needs to respect the family’s wishes.

Branleuse · 04/10/2024 23:04

Actually i don't know who is who?

Arlanymor · 04/10/2024 23:03

Demonhunter · 04/10/2024 23:02

That's what I'm trying to work out, it sounds like a riddle doesn't it?

@TigerandLion surely if she's 16, she still lives with her mum and step dad, who are attending the funeral?

That's what I thought too. Leave the partner out of this, he doesn't get to choose above blood relatives, but if her own blood relatives who she lives with aren't giving her the information then it's a different conversation surely? Total riddle.

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 23:03

She genuinely does just want to quietly pay her respects and say goodbye as she adored her step-grandma.

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RawBloomers · 04/10/2024 23:02

It seems very vindictive of the DSGM's partner, but if no one in the family will tell her the details, finding them out through some other means and going seems unlikely to be a good idea. Why don't you help her come to terms with her DSGM's passing and pay her respects in some other fashion? Funerals are an accepted way of grieving but they aren't the only or necessary way to mark your love for some one who has passed.

Branleuse · 04/10/2024 23:02

I think its not your business and you cant fix this. Just tell your daughter that youre not surprised that shes feeling hurt, because its shitty behaviour, and its not her fault.
Tell her that you will have your own memorial and light a candle and talk about her and have a little cry, and that her step grandma loved her just as much as she did her, and that lots of people dont go to funerals at all. Its probably best to just drop it and concentrate on being there for your daughter. Shes upset and feels rejected and excluded, but I think if your exs mum has died, then just let him be.

Demonhunter · 04/10/2024 23:02

Dearover · 04/10/2024 22:41

Your husband's ex-wife's new husband's mother?

That's what I'm trying to work out, it sounds like a riddle doesn't it?

@TigerandLion surely if she's 16, she still lives with her mum and step dad, who are attending the funeral?

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 23:01

Heronwatcher · 04/10/2024 22:59

Ok so why won’t her own parent or any of the other family members tell her where it is?

@TigerandLion you’re going to need to explain this properly if you want anything out of this thread.

I don’t know why. Genuinely don’t know why as they’ve not said why to me or stepdaughter. I can only assume because her partner has told them not to.

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TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 23:00

batt3nb3rg · 04/10/2024 22:52

Is there any reason you know of why the whole family (including adult biological children) are submitting to her boyfriend of relatively short standing's wishes when it comes to this funeral? He almost certainly has no legal right to be making these decisions, and certainly no social right.

No. There’s no backstory other than her having one argument with her step-grandmas new partner and him not seeing her as family. Her step-grandma always loved her and considered her family. She’s never had any arguments or anything with anyone else in the family besides him.

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Heronwatcher · 04/10/2024 22:59

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:56

She hasn’t behaved badly in the past or anything no.

Ok so why won’t her own parent or any of the other family members tell her where it is?

@TigerandLion you’re going to need to explain this properly if you want anything out of this thread.

Arlanymor · 04/10/2024 22:57

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:56

She hasn’t behaved badly in the past or anything no.

So why won't her mum/dad share the details? Not being goady, genuinely asking. And also (edited to add this) surely the views of her natural parent trump those of the new partner. This is sounding more and more twisted.

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:56

Arlanymor · 04/10/2024 22:50

That's what I was wondering too. Child's wishes come above grandchild's, particularly if they have behaved badly in the past. No answer yet though...

She hasn’t behaved badly in the past or anything no.

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Dery · 04/10/2024 22:56

I’m struggling to understand the interrelationships here but as a PP flagged, presumably one of the people refusing to provide the funeral details is one of your step-daughter’s natural parents. How can that person be comfortable with excluding their own daughter from the funeral of their step-mother/her step-grandmother? It makes no sense and seems incredibly cruel. Or is the partner excluding everyone who’s not a blood relative? If so, he sounds like a pretty nasty piece of work. And as a PP said, he is also not a blood relative. So it makes no sense.

MrsMoastyToasty · 04/10/2024 22:55

I'd it likely to be a church service and graveyard burial? If so see iv you can get a parish newsletter.

Can a non family member ",innocently" ask after step grandma?

batt3nb3rg · 04/10/2024 22:52

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:34

None of the other family will give her the details unfortunately. I think her partner has told them not to.

Is there any reason you know of why the whole family (including adult biological children) are submitting to her boyfriend of relatively short standing's wishes when it comes to this funeral? He almost certainly has no legal right to be making these decisions, and certainly no social right.

Circumferences · 04/10/2024 22:51

She probably shouldn't go

Arlanymor · 04/10/2024 22:50

ARichtGoodDram · 04/10/2024 22:49

Does her step-parent want her to go?

If you look at it neutrally is the partner keeping her away for understandable reasons?

FIL's godson and great nephew was prevented from going to his funeral. He was very upset about it but he'd caused great offence to people much much closer to FIL and they understandably came first. Is the partner simply putting the dead GP's child first?

That's what I was wondering too. Child's wishes come above grandchild's, particularly if they have behaved badly in the past. No answer yet though...

ARichtGoodDram · 04/10/2024 22:49

Does her step-parent want her to go?

If you look at it neutrally is the partner keeping her away for understandable reasons?

FIL's godson and great nephew was prevented from going to his funeral. He was very upset about it but he'd caused great offence to people much much closer to FIL and they understandably came first. Is the partner simply putting the dead GP's child first?

Boopeedoop · 04/10/2024 22:48

Call the cemetery. X

Arlanymor · 04/10/2024 22:48

Not sure why people are talking about a cremation when the OP said it was a funeral? Two very different things.

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:47

Boopeedoop · 04/10/2024 22:47

If it's likely to be a cremation, just call the crematorium. Ask them for the details as you would like to send flowers.

It’s a burial.

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Coruscations · 04/10/2024 22:47

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:25

I’ve tried to ask for the funeral details on her behalf too but the family won’t provide them and I don’t know how else I can get the details for her if they won’t provide them.

If it's a cremation, crematoria also sometimes post those details online.

Boopeedoop · 04/10/2024 22:47

If it's likely to be a cremation, just call the crematorium. Ask them for the details as you would like to send flowers.

Changeyourfuckingcar · 04/10/2024 22:42

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:34

None of the other family will give her the details unfortunately. I think her partner has told them not to.

This is really weird. To have one or two people acting the fool is one thing but a whole family colluding to exclude someone often indicated a complicated back story imo.
In any case, I think I’d be encouraging stepdaughter to opt for her own plan to honour her step grandmother (?) rather than forcing her way into a funeral where it seems no one will welcome her or even be remotely pleased to see her.

Heronwatcher · 04/10/2024 22:42

TigerandLion · 04/10/2024 22:34

None of the other family will give her the details unfortunately. I think her partner has told them not to.

Do you really think it’s a good idea for her to go in these circumstances?

Surely at best they will ignore her, at worst they will ask her to leave or physically eject her. Neither sounds like something her gran would want happening at the funeral or a nice respectful send off. It’d be like a scene from Eastenders.

Does she actually just want to prove a point?