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Partner won’t marry me (thread 2)

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Everythingwillbeokk · 04/10/2024 18:53

Continuation of the thread of the same name 😁

OP posts:
hanali · 05/10/2024 19:01

Hedgewitch123 · 05/10/2024 16:35

Have you read her posts abd what she pays him for?

Hiw little he contributes?

It's much morw than marriage.

I don't see how a legal agreement will change his ways.

Hedgewitch123 · 05/10/2024 18:59

Everythingwillbeokk · 05/10/2024 18:49

I don’t think he could ever talk me round in a million years - as someone else said even if he turned round with a 10 carat diamond I wouldn’t be interested.

Ive been to hell and back this week. It’s been absolutely bloody awful but I’m alive, and I’m focused.

Had a lovely day today with the dog. We actually ended up just sitting with a pint and watching the world go by.

Why am I letting him talk to me again? Well frankly lastnight got utterly exhausting - I’m emotionally and physically tired right now anyway - we went through I’d say about 75% of my points, and after a late night takeaway (have I mentioned I just can’t be bothered cooking at the moment?) I was shattered and just went to bed. I’m really grateful at this point that we aren’t shouty people and didn’t at any point digress into being nasty, or rude. I blew apart any hope he had of me just taking what he says and going with it - he’s so used to me just accepting what he says and getting back into my place - I think that woman has already up and ran!

So tonight I’m going to pick apart a few things he said and cover the rest of my points - yes I need to do this. It’s for me.

Apparantly he is now planning to go out tomorrow daytime with friends instead - this remains to be seen.

What I will add is that prior to this talk we had agreed that we would each have a list of points to discuss, so that our talk can remain focused. I had a list. He didn’t. He said ‘it’s all in my head’ - what a complete and utter fool. He fell at the first hurdle. And I swept the floor with him.

So glad to read op... stay strong and keep slaying!

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 05/10/2024 18:57

@Everythingwillbeokk - I am so relieved for you to read your latest post. I, like many others here, am so rooting for you to find yourself in a good position with your DC, away from this emotional vampire that is your ex. I hear what you're saying about this having been a dreadful week and I really hope you can move out soon. I wish I could do more. But know you have my support, morally, from thousands of miles away, and I am willing this to turn out all right for you. Just keep thinking about how great it will be when you are in your own home, running your own life, and not having to support a man who wants to squeeze the life out of you.

AmberAlert86 · 05/10/2024 18:57

I vet he's shocked if he's used to you going with what he says!

Everythingwillbeokk · 05/10/2024 18:49

I don’t think he could ever talk me round in a million years - as someone else said even if he turned round with a 10 carat diamond I wouldn’t be interested.

Ive been to hell and back this week. It’s been absolutely bloody awful but I’m alive, and I’m focused.

Had a lovely day today with the dog. We actually ended up just sitting with a pint and watching the world go by.

Why am I letting him talk to me again? Well frankly lastnight got utterly exhausting - I’m emotionally and physically tired right now anyway - we went through I’d say about 75% of my points, and after a late night takeaway (have I mentioned I just can’t be bothered cooking at the moment?) I was shattered and just went to bed. I’m really grateful at this point that we aren’t shouty people and didn’t at any point digress into being nasty, or rude. I blew apart any hope he had of me just taking what he says and going with it - he’s so used to me just accepting what he says and getting back into my place - I think that woman has already up and ran!

So tonight I’m going to pick apart a few things he said and cover the rest of my points - yes I need to do this. It’s for me.

Apparantly he is now planning to go out tomorrow daytime with friends instead - this remains to be seen.

What I will add is that prior to this talk we had agreed that we would each have a list of points to discuss, so that our talk can remain focused. I had a list. He didn’t. He said ‘it’s all in my head’ - what a complete and utter fool. He fell at the first hurdle. And I swept the floor with him.

OP posts:
OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/10/2024 18:28

and remember his x wife has just announced she is getting remarried...

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 05/10/2024 18:26

OP I have a feeling a lot of us would like to be in the room sitting behind you with clipboards.

Hedgewitch123 · 05/10/2024 18:26

deeahgwitch · 05/10/2024 18:23

I agree.
He thinks he's in with a chance so you won't upend his life.

I'm worried op agreeing will mean she is swayed back to him.

deeahgwitch · 05/10/2024 18:23

IslandShore · 05/10/2024 17:13

I wish you would go out for the evening or stay in a hotel, given money isn’t a big issue. Surely your real life friends are advising this? If you have a couple of glasses of wine with him and start to weaken this could go entirely the wrong way.

I agree.
He thinks he's in with a chance so you won't upend his life.

BlackShuck3 · 05/10/2024 17:56

More power to you OP!

LetsSeeHowFarWeveCome · 05/10/2024 17:41

Sooooo.... he was full of shit about the proposal (he who doesn't want to get married) and just wanted to make you feel 'at fault' somehow. You weren't. And.... he is probably busy compiling a list of his own today to counter yours.

I wouldn't even talk to him again.

Just get yourself and your children out of there.

AcrossthePond55 · 05/10/2024 17:38

@Everythingwillbeokk

I've been thinking. If you feel you must have another talk, that's your prerogative. But if he gives you the 'I looovvve you' speech tell him that you are moving out regardless and that he will have to 'win you back over time' from separate homes. His response will probably tell you everything you need to know. Because I predict that he'll either panic or become angry when he realizes that he's going to have to support his own household for months whilst he's trying to 'woo you'. And he'll probably give you an 'if you leave, we're done' ultimatum.

IslandShore · 05/10/2024 17:13

I wish you would go out for the evening or stay in a hotel, given money isn’t a big issue. Surely your real life friends are advising this? If you have a couple of glasses of wine with him and start to weaken this could go entirely the wrong way.

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/10/2024 17:12

Seems like he keeps asking to talk so he can talk you round, OP. Why does he need to talk again tonight otherwise? Everything has already been said, surely? Be careful not to be suckered in with false promises. I’d have said no to another talking session, personally. There’s no need.

Garlicbest · 05/10/2024 17:06

Awww, bless him 😍 He's very sorry you've failed to see how much he loves you! It must've been dreadfully upsetting for him when you ruined Proposal Day by being ill. And it's obvious he didn't give you the window seat because he enjoys the physical closeness when you have to lean across him.

By this evening, he'll have prepared a fabulous dinner of all your favourites and had a total personality transplant. He was just letting you pay all the bills and run the household because he understands a woman's need to feel in charge of her life. Now you've explained what irks you, he'll be wide open to a new regime 🤗

... and if you're daft enough to believe this, you'll deserve what you get (more of the same old, with added guilt trips).

Savingthehedgehogs · 05/10/2024 17:03

He stands to lose his cash cow and house. Damn right he is not going to give up! He is going to throw everything at it this evening op.

Eddielizzard · 05/10/2024 16:55

Well sounds like he won't be able to pull the wool over your eyes. Endless picking over the past is not great though, just more opportunities for bashing each other. At some point it will be good to say 'ok, enough is enough. Let's split amicably'.

I really hope you get that house. I wouldn't tell him about it until it's a done deal tho

Toopies · 05/10/2024 16:55

I really hope you will not be sucked back in by him.

TeaMistress · 05/10/2024 16:52

Don't let this waste of space try to talk you round OP. He's trying to reel you back in so he can use you to pay his mortgage. I would put your foot down now and make it clear that the relationship is over. You don't need his permission to walk away.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/10/2024 16:48

oh dear have just read your update

he really can't afford the mortgage on the house can he...

Hedgewitch123 · 05/10/2024 16:47

SquirrelSoShiny · 05/10/2024 15:50

You're in danger of letting him wear you down for an easy life.

Tolerable level of unhappiness.... so many women live this way. Tolerable levels of unhappiness.

Forever.

Hedgewitch123 · 05/10/2024 16:35

hanali · 05/10/2024 16:27

Why do you so desperately need to have a bit of paper attached to your relationship?

Have you read her posts abd what she pays him for?

Hiw little he contributes?

It's much morw than marriage.

Hedgewitch123 · 05/10/2024 16:34

Hillfarmer · 05/10/2024 14:40

Hi OP,

You don't need to have Round 2 at all. Sounds like you have given him lots to go on with. He can work it out from here on in. You absolutely don't have to justify yourself. Don't get hooked on the idea that you need him to agree this. This is your decision.

A very short and possibly unecessary reminder of an old MN saying: you don't need his permission to end the relationship.

Having another long, in-depth discussion only benefits HIM. Consider if there is any benefit to you to do this. It is not selfish to change your mind. You need a nice quiet evening doing what you want to do, in your nice child-free weekend. You don't owe him this. And if you think you do owe him another arduous long chat, how about a third or a fourth? He will continue to string this out and it is a way of making you do things. Controlling the weather. Don't let him guilt you into it.

Backing you all the way here. You are doing really well OP.

This 100% op... it depends if you want manipulating back or indeed want to go back to the status quo.

Do you want to keep paying his mortgage and supportingting him financially manipulate you to pay for holidays etc.

Do you want to be doing unfair shares of housework.

Every talk will be closer to you going back to the manipulation and abuse.

Its a cycle you have the power to break. However it will take a strong woman to stand up to the patriarchal roles and break the cycle for herself and her children.

Remember he prioritises his children over you as a family unit.

Good luck and whatever you decide I hope you are happy.

2Rebecca · 05/10/2024 16:29

It's more than a piece of paper. It's a legal document

hanali · 05/10/2024 16:27

Why do you so desperately need to have a bit of paper attached to your relationship?

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