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To think the police should focus limited officers on crime not speedometers

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Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 16:24

The past two days I have driven past two speed checks, yet the last time I saw any police patrolling our high street is years ago. Given that we've got speed cameras I think the police should focus on patrols and solving burglaries and other crime until they get more officers to spare some for speeding. Or give speeding checks to traffic wardens.

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HorsePeopleAreStablePeople · 04/10/2024 17:32

Anedina · 04/10/2024 16:31

Obviously most people on this thread don't care if their home gets burgled or their loved one gets stabbed

What a ridiculous thing to say. Of course people care about those things as do I.

But two days ago I was walking down the road with my horse to put her back in her field after a lovely ride round the country. We were hit by a driver who admitted to speeding at the scene. My horse is dead. I am lucky to be alive and have severe injuries. You bet I fucking care about people who speed and kill people. I'd rather be burgled than go through what happened two days ago again. I saw my horse go through a car windscreen and I'm in a lot of pain. I was terrified, traumatized and heartbroken.

Come take my fucking TV if it's going to give me my beloved mare back and unbreak my leg because it's either speeding or violent crime that can be stopped. Or are you just here to be a contrarion idiot?

MissRoseDurward · 04/10/2024 17:25

I disagree, I think plenty of people think speeding is absolutely fine,

Yes, see the number of people on MN who say they habitually do well over 70 on the motorway. Because they're such good drivers, speed limits don't apply to them.

My mother's elderly neighbours were knocked down by a speeding driver on the zebra crossing outside their house. The husband was killed, his wife left disabled.

mugboat · 04/10/2024 17:14

Trimalata · 04/10/2024 17:10

Nobody thinks speeding is good.

I disagree, I think plenty of people think speeding is absolutely fine, especially if they happen to disagree with the speed limit, and know or think that they aren't going to be caught. We also live in a 20 zone, but the number of cars who genuinely respect it is very small.

totally agree. The amount of people I have heard boasting about speeding, or moaning about speed cameras is ridiculous.

Trimalata · 04/10/2024 17:10

Nobody thinks speeding is good.

I disagree, I think plenty of people think speeding is absolutely fine, especially if they happen to disagree with the speed limit, and know or think that they aren't going to be caught. We also live in a 20 zone, but the number of cars who genuinely respect it is very small.

TizerorFizz · 04/10/2024 17:09

It’s a bit of a joke where live. Definitely money making on the local town by pass on a Sunday morning. They don’t stop the boy racers doing doughnuts in the early hours! These people are the ones who truly don’t care. We did see a police officer when someone was reported to be lurking in the woods with a gun. Otherwise we are low crime but I think speed guns could be community police.

HotelCustody · 04/10/2024 17:08

Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 16:57

Nobody thinks speeding is good. Put up more speed cameras is one way of dealing with it. But where I live, moped muggings, car break ins and knife crime are big issues. So yes I would rather see more police on the streets, when we get more police then for sure do traffic as well, obviously everyone wants both. But there are never any police walking round, not on the busy high street or near anywhere where I live. Regular car break ins at night and never any police there or patrolling.

It won’t be response or community officers, it’s usually civilians. Its not even traffic officers, the ones who attend fatals and have to knock on loved ones doors to deliver a death message.

Traffic offences also pick up drink drives, drug drives, burglars, missing people, uninsured drivers, stolen cars, fleeing offenders to name a few, every department is important.

Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 17:06

I live in London, in a 20mph area. Loads of speed cameras already because of ULEZ. So I can see it depends where you live.

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Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 04/10/2024 17:01

Dint know where you live but driving standards have definitely dropped in east lancs.

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/live-breaking-gas-leak-lancashire-30072962

This type of accident is becoming a regular occurance.

mumda · 04/10/2024 16:58

https://www.crashmap.co.uk/Search
This is always interesting. Data to 2022.

CrashMap

https://www.crashmap.co.uk/Search

Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 16:57

Nobody thinks speeding is good. Put up more speed cameras is one way of dealing with it. But where I live, moped muggings, car break ins and knife crime are big issues. So yes I would rather see more police on the streets, when we get more police then for sure do traffic as well, obviously everyone wants both. But there are never any police walking round, not on the busy high street or near anywhere where I live. Regular car break ins at night and never any police there or patrolling.

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Trimalata · 04/10/2024 16:56

Given the state of the roads outside my child's school (and everyone else's child's school, by the sounds of things) every morning, I'd prefer more traffic cops. Drivers since the pandemic seem to have absolutely lost the plot.

I have been burgled, and it was bloody horrible. I would still rather our roads were safer for everyone.

mugboat · 04/10/2024 16:54

dangerous driving/parking generally should be more monitored than it is. Motorists really feel like they own the roads... and pavements.

I have nearly been run over by someone reversing out of their (very tiny) driveway when they didn't bother looking before reversing... this was a busy path and a busy road too.I am terrified of letting my kids run off on the pavement because of people reversing out of driveways.

I have also been nearly knocked over by someone parking on the pavement without looking where they were going (you can park on the pavement on some streets near me).

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 04/10/2024 16:51

Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 16:30

I don't want people to speed either of course not. But in one of the checks I passed the officers were very visible and right by a speed camera. Both in 20mph areas. Nobody was speeding. I didn't feel like they were effective.

Or possibly it's a sign that they are effective. Speed cameras are meant to act as a deterrent, hence why they're painted bright colours. The idea is that their existence stops people from speeding.

There's a road by me that has a speed van. It generally turns up every few days for a month or two, and the message gets round that it's there, so people slow down. And then it's not there for a few months and people start speeding up again.

nOasistickets · 04/10/2024 16:50

my nanny's stepdad was hit and killed by someone speeding.

NoTouch · 04/10/2024 16:50

Traffic police are not there just to ruin speeders fun. Speeding kills and is a serious safety risk.

I would rather someone's life was saved when a speeding motorist is made to think twice, than someone's PS5 was recovered from a burglary.

It is obviously not that black and white, the same way choosing where scarce police resources are deployed is not an easy choice.

Ideally there would be enough resources for both, but no-one wants their taxes raised and government after government don't seem to be able to finance it with what they currently take.

notprincehamlet · 04/10/2024 16:49

Nobody was speeding. I didn't feel like they were effective.
If nobody was speeding then the police presence was having the desired effect Hmm
Speeding should be treated with the same seriousness and contempt as drunk driving

mugboat · 04/10/2024 16:49

Anedina · 04/10/2024 16:31

Obviously most people on this thread don't care if their home gets burgled or their loved one gets stabbed

yes, that's right. I hate speeding cars, but love burlary.
🙄

mugboat · 04/10/2024 16:48

I actually wish the police would spend more resource on monitoring speeding cars. Motorists treat the roads near my kids' school like a racetrack.
They clearly know they can get away with it. It's a massive problem. If you are defending speeding motorists, you are part of the problem.

StormingNorman · 04/10/2024 16:48

Crime doesn’t pay…but speeding fines do!

AdviceNeeded2024 · 04/10/2024 16:47

The ones in the speed vans are civilians and that is their job role, they are not officers.

Any police officers out doing it will be for a specific operation or in response to loads of complaints from a certain areas. Generally these will be staffed by volunteers or special
constables (also volunteers)

ReadWithScepticism · 04/10/2024 16:46

I expect that the police officers at a speed check can drop everything and respond to other incidents when appropriate. If you are a highway patrol officer, where better to be, between incidents, than at the side of the road?

It's not that different from fire fighters who spend part of their time checking compliance on premises. They can't be fighting fires all the time, and the more successful they are at prevention the fewer they have to fight.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 04/10/2024 16:44

If you could just write to the Home Secretary and tell them exactly which crimes should be investigated and which shouldn't, and which departments should be not running any more....
I'm sure your opinion will be really appreciated.

Anedina · 04/10/2024 16:40

Caravaggiouch · 04/10/2024 16:39

But it’s a hell of a lot more likely to happen if they’re speeding. Or do you think the speed limits are just there for fun? Equally, your house could still be burgled even if every traffic police officer in the country was redeployed to an anti-burglary campaign. People deserve to be caught and punished for speeding too.

Spot the dangerous drivers on this thread 🙄

I don't drive actually as I don't have good enough eyesight

Beepbeepoutoftheway · 04/10/2024 16:40

Anedina · 04/10/2024 16:31

Obviously most people on this thread don't care if their home gets burgled or their loved one gets stabbed

No, but they do care that the police are out trying to stop people killing their loved ones from speeding drivers :)

Caravaggiouch · 04/10/2024 16:39

Anedina · 04/10/2024 16:35

Your child could get killed by a driver driving at the speed limit

But it’s a hell of a lot more likely to happen if they’re speeding. Or do you think the speed limits are just there for fun? Equally, your house could still be burgled even if every traffic police officer in the country was redeployed to an anti-burglary campaign. People deserve to be caught and punished for speeding too.

Spot the dangerous drivers on this thread 🙄

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