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Just because I'm there doesn't mean I'm free childcare

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itsmeits · 04/10/2024 07:13

I go out once a week and take my DDs with me 7 and 13. It's a social evening thing, the girls love it, there are different activities on.
My sister has started coming fine no issue with that. Her mate is now coming with her DD 8
This is where the issue is. They swan off for 15-30 min cig breaks and leave the child unattended. Going for a cig is the announcement and off they pop.
Last night child of sisters friend was messing about and has hurt themselves, mum nowhere to be seen for over 20mins.
I am being blamed for not watching the child 😳
Apparently announcing I'm going for a cig is que for me to watch her child - never have either said can you watch DD while I nip out. Plus I don't know this child, met her a few times that's it.
When this happened I should have been sat with/watching her DD not participating in an activity my DDs wanted to do.

My sister is trying to rip me a new one and her friend has threatened to report me to SS for neglect, as it was my neglect (according to them) that has caused this hospital visit and her to be reported to SS.

Should I have watched this child
YANBU you have your DDs she needs to step up
YABU she's a single mum provide free cig breaks child care for her

OP posts:
Slartibartslow · 05/10/2024 20:42

You are not responsible for her child, she is. End of.
Your sister should support you and not this random (to you) who is trying to guilt trip to divert from her own crap behaviour.
As a second thought tell them both to fuck the hell off!

It’s hilarious to think SS would have anything to say to you. The conversation would go like this.
Is this your child?
No.
Sorry for wasting your time.

TheAlchemy · 05/10/2024 20:03

How bizarre that SS would waste their time over a kid having a bit of a tumble…

Zanatdy · 05/10/2024 19:46

What a joke you’re being blamed. I would stay well away from this woman and your sister. Going for a smoke takes 5 mins tops, but she shouldn’t be leaving her kids without asking someone to watch them. I can’t believe she had the cheek to blame you when it was her own fault

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 05/10/2024 19:41

Tell them it is their fault the child hurt themselves and while you obviously can’t stop them going, tell them you won’t be sitting with them and definitely won’t be watching their children

Hmm1234 · 05/10/2024 19:32

Sounds like something of Jeremy Kyle

Mumof3PrettyBoys · 05/10/2024 19:23

Your sister should be ashamed. When shit hits the fan for her and her friend - tell your sister to keep the same energy and DEUCES

Daleksatemyshed · 05/10/2024 18:51

I think you're right that your sister is taking sides against you because you refused to take her live with you, she's seeing this as an opportunity to take you down a peg or two. I've seen far too many parents do what her friend has, leaving their DC somewhere and thinking someone else will keep an eye on them, if she'd asked that might be different but she has no right to assume. Fortunately for you I can't see her or your sister turning up at the club in future, if they do their not going to get the reception I'd like

exaltedwombat · 05/10/2024 18:40

Butnothingsclear · 05/10/2024 18:00

I disagree. The sister invited her friend. The OP is nothing to do with her and barely knows her child. The child is 8. The assumption, would be that announcing you are going for a fag means that you have risk assessed the situation as safe enough to do so.

If it was a toddler it would be more clear cut and I’d agree that there is an element of needing to clarify but my assumption here would be that the 8 year old is fine on their own and knows where the parent is.

That's a reasonable opinion too. Leaving one mum 'with the kids' isn't an uncommon situation. The legalities regarding responsibility for any mishap would be messy. What if the child's mum HAD been there? Would the accident not have happened anyway? Maybe, maybe not.

Anyway. No-one seems to be suggesting the child didn't get immediate and appropriate care. That's what matters.

Tessabelle74 · 05/10/2024 18:29

Sorry but 😂😂😂😂, good luck telling SS that YOU are the one in the wrong! Stick to your guns OP and tell them both to fuck off and once they there, fuck off some more!

Annieall · 05/10/2024 18:18

Ss would not be interested in the slightest at such a thing. Nor would they be interested if it was your own child for that matter and you had gone for the cig.
It shows their lack of knowledge by treating you with such a thing.
Tell them so. Good of you for getting out and taking the kids 👌 look after your own. Not other peoples. Hope you've stuck up for yourselves against the fag hags

Havinganamechange · 05/10/2024 18:02

Tell you CF sister and her vile friend to do one. They are responsible for their own kids, you have enough on your hands watching two DC. Don’t take her along and say you aren’t going next time. Put your foot down. What a pair of CFs.

Butnothingsclear · 05/10/2024 18:00

exaltedwombat · 05/10/2024 17:48

Tricky one. You were in a group. When the other mums announced they were off for a ciggy break, if you didn't say anything you DID sort of tacitly take responsibility for the kids.
Pity it turned into a blame contest.

I disagree. The sister invited her friend. The OP is nothing to do with her and barely knows her child. The child is 8. The assumption, would be that announcing you are going for a fag means that you have risk assessed the situation as safe enough to do so.

If it was a toddler it would be more clear cut and I’d agree that there is an element of needing to clarify but my assumption here would be that the 8 year old is fine on their own and knows where the parent is.

Bellatrixpure · 05/10/2024 17:58

How stressful for you. You have nothing to answer for though

Thursdaygirl · 05/10/2024 17:58

exaltedwombat · 05/10/2024 17:48

Tricky one. You were in a group. When the other mums announced they were off for a ciggy break, if you didn't say anything you DID sort of tacitly take responsibility for the kids.
Pity it turned into a blame contest.

So if you don’t make it clear you are not taking responsibility, then you become responsible by default?? Not sure how this would stand up legally!

SusanHodge1964 · 05/10/2024 17:50

Other people's children are NOT your responsibility unless there's some sort of formal agreement...good luck...xx

ForBetterForWorseOrNot · 05/10/2024 17:50

Social services do not just get involved because a child has an accident and splits head open. My son did this twice in 8 weeks due to a heart murmur and loosing his balance when dizzy. We didn't know that was the cause at the time but no ss involvement. Unless their is other stuff in the background one accident would not lead to involvement. Sounds like this parent most likely has a tendency not to pay attention to her child.

exaltedwombat · 05/10/2024 17:48

Tricky one. You were in a group. When the other mums announced they were off for a ciggy break, if you didn't say anything you DID sort of tacitly take responsibility for the kids.
Pity it turned into a blame contest.

Blink1985 · 05/10/2024 17:43

Your sister sounds like an absolute cow. You have 2 of your own children to watch, they are your priority. Can her friend not take her cigarette breaks before or after the event? It's her friend not yours. It's a pity you told your sister about this, I'm sure you wouldn't have if you had known she and her friend were going to take advantage like that. In any case, you were not being paid to child mind, therein lies the answer. In future if she wants a friend to tag along with kids for free babysitting, tell her you aren't insured to mind other people's children and it won't be happening. The absolute cheek of both of them.

Thursdaygirl · 05/10/2024 09:20

Chaiilatte · 04/10/2024 17:41

Just read all the updates. I can't believe your sister has given your number. What a horrible thing to be dragged in to from a woman you barely know. Nasty pieces of work! Prob knows she's neglected the poor kid and using you as the scapegoat

Absolutely!

ButterCrackers · 04/10/2024 22:09

It’s good that the hospital contacted social services about this mother. Stay away from this person and tell your sister to think about the friends she has.

ThanksHunPenneys · 04/10/2024 22:03

Tengreenbottles2 · 04/10/2024 18:08

Equally, I think the time the mum was gone is irrelevant. She’s too young to be left alone in a public place for even 5 minutes.

Is this a joke? Have you ever met an 8 year old? Are you one of those people who wouldn't let their 16 year old stay in the house alone while you pop to the shops or something? How absurd.

Maybe the PP was the same poster who earlier today asked where to get reins big enough for a 9 Yr old (that the poster confirmed had no disabilities/SEN or any other reason). MN deleted that one!

2Rebecca · 04/10/2024 21:58

Agree. The mother would have been better being very apologetic saying she'd just gone to the loo and felt awful when she came back and wished she'd taken her daughter in with her but thought at 8 she'd be OK for a few minutes as she'd left her sitting quietly at a table rather than trying to blame another adult sat at the same table who hadn't been asked to supervise her daughter. Social services wouldn't have become involved then as hospitals are used to accidents happening to children

AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2024 21:51

@itsmeits

Well, sounds to me as if Sis and her pal have dished themselves a heapin' plateful of shit stew with their trying to blame you for pal's poor parenting! They forgot to remember that when you're pointing 1 finger at someone there are 4 other fingers pointing right back at them.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/10/2024 21:42

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/10/2024 20:20

I am loving the sound of this club, by the way! Very 'community'.

And - YANBU. I'd rip your sister a new one, but it sounds as if your mother already has.

I think the club sounds lovely too! I’d love to know what the activities are that they do or if this kind of club exists elsewhere

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/10/2024 20:20

I am loving the sound of this club, by the way! Very 'community'.

And - YANBU. I'd rip your sister a new one, but it sounds as if your mother already has.

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