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To not want dp to work more?

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BelleSauvage9 · 03/10/2024 23:43

3 dc (13, 2 and 1).

Dp currently leaves for work at 6:30am and gets home at 6pm (mon-fri). I'm a sahm atm.

Dp wants to start working Saturdays for a (unspecified) period of time in the hope that it will help boost career. I would be fine with this down the line when we don't have young children, but I'm against it atm as they are young and full on and I want his support and presence at the w/e. Dc1 also plays football every Saturday and I hate having to do the matches by myself with both toddlers in tow.

He says he hates being poor. I would say that we manage okay, our bills are paid, we have plenty of food, we manage to go out and do things on occasion etc. We can typically afford one uk holiday a year. I would much rather his presence than some extra money. He thinks I'm being unreasonable, am I??

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BelleSauvage9 · 04/10/2024 20:58

And yes to those who get my point of having to care for children for 6 days all by myself. The 5 days alone are tough, but that's what I signed up for, I just didn't sign up for more than that, and don't want to take that hit for a bit of extra money that we can get by without for now. And as mentioned it also leaves little family time, dp currently gets home from work just in time for dinner, bath and bedtime and would only have one day a week for quality time, as well as most definitely not wanting to spend his one day off doing housework so I would be having to shoulder all of that as well as childcare (I already do the vast vast majority of housework as I'm the sahp, this would definitely become all if he was working 6 days a week).

Working evenings are out for me because both small ones breastfeed to sleep and still wake unpredictably. I intend to try and wean our 2 year old within the next 6 months though, and our younger one a while after. Once they're weaned then that may be a possibility.

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BelleSauvage9 · 04/10/2024 20:51

@Completelyjo I don't berate him for getting a sandwich, I'm not sure where you've got that from?? I specifically said I'm not bothered about his spending, and I never complain or make comments about how he chooses to spend our money. I was just making the point to those who said maybe he's worried about finances because people who are worried about finances typically try to cut down their spending where they can and he doesn't really.

I get people don't want to only have money for essentials but as I said we can afford some luxuries (obviously what is considered luxuries is specific to each persons situation, and for those with less money luxuries are things like going out for a meal on occasion or buying new clothes rather than second hand ones etc, as opposed to expensive new tech or nice abroad holidays for example). Neither one of us spends lots day to day but we just aren't people that buy lots of stuff.

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AppropriateAdult · 04/10/2024 15:34

Hatty65 · 04/10/2024 14:56

I think the thing is, he's hoping it will boost his career.

He can't really be expected to put his career on hold (if he is ambitious) to help with childcare when you are a SAHM. I'd have thought the whole idea of you staying home was that he was free to concentrate on maximising earnings or career opportunities, and having only one salary does make finances tight.

I think he will resent you if you make a big deal of him cutting back on work when he's the sole breadwinner and wants to get on in life. Is he not likely to suggest that you pick up some of the slack and get a job if you don't want him doing more hours?

What about family life, though? What is the point of them being together and having children if they don't get to spend any time all together?

Doing all the parenting for small children six days per week is very hard and very lonely - having been there myself, I would really try to push back on this one, OP.

cestlavielife · 04/10/2024 15:09

What s tge job?
Where s your financial security if you unmarried?
What if he drops dead from overwork? What life insurance etc is there

Completelyjo · 04/10/2024 15:07

Itsdefinitelytimeforanamechange · 04/10/2024 15:04

Is he ‘helping’ with childcare though if they are his own children that he has decided to have? What about the OP having to put her career on hold to allow him to work on his? I’m sure she wants to get on with life too! Presumably this was a joint decision they made together. As she does 60 hours of solo childcare a week she probably doesn’t have much energy to pick up more slack at the moment!

That’s just life though. If they only just have the essentials covered then someone needs to work more. Its pretty miserable to work all week but be berated because you spent money on a sandwich.

Pyroleus · 04/10/2024 15:04

So he wants you to do more caring for your joint children so he can further his career and give himself future financial stability (which only benefits him if you split up so does not provide any security for you), but isn't keen on you working to provide yourself any future financial stability?

I would say to him that you value financial stability and you understand his position, so you want some security too.
Choice 1 - you get married so your personal and financial sacrifices to support his career actually benefit you too. Once married he can work X number of Saturdays (number/timescale mutually agreed) if the money can be found for childcare one day per week. Cutting back on Temu and stopping smoking should cover a good chunk of it. If it's that important to him he can manage I'm sure.
Choice 2 - you don't get married but you both work 3 days a week from now on and split the childcare, so you both have financial security. House or tenancy agreement should be in both your names. Equal pension contributions should be being made to both of you.

You both work more than full time at present. He is asking you to work more so that he can secure future financial benefits for himself which you have no legal entitlement to.

Itsdefinitelytimeforanamechange · 04/10/2024 15:04

Hatty65 · 04/10/2024 14:56

I think the thing is, he's hoping it will boost his career.

He can't really be expected to put his career on hold (if he is ambitious) to help with childcare when you are a SAHM. I'd have thought the whole idea of you staying home was that he was free to concentrate on maximising earnings or career opportunities, and having only one salary does make finances tight.

I think he will resent you if you make a big deal of him cutting back on work when he's the sole breadwinner and wants to get on in life. Is he not likely to suggest that you pick up some of the slack and get a job if you don't want him doing more hours?

Is he ‘helping’ with childcare though if they are his own children that he has decided to have? What about the OP having to put her career on hold to allow him to work on his? I’m sure she wants to get on with life too! Presumably this was a joint decision they made together. As she does 60 hours of solo childcare a week she probably doesn’t have much energy to pick up more slack at the moment!

Cowboycorgi · 04/10/2024 15:02

You could get an evening job to bring in some extra money.

Completelyjo · 04/10/2024 15:01

If he was really concerned about our financial situation then surely he would cut down on his own spending? And I don't spend much outside of essentials.

Not everyone wants a life where they don’t have much money beyond bare essentials.

mewkins · 04/10/2024 14:58

Mickey79 · 04/10/2024 14:46

He is already working a lot of hours, one day off a week would be horrendous. Would you working a couple of evenings a week not make more sense. He’ll be at home for the children so no child care costs.

This is a better plan as you could work up to the tax threshold without paying tax on what you earn.

Hatty65 · 04/10/2024 14:56

I think the thing is, he's hoping it will boost his career.

He can't really be expected to put his career on hold (if he is ambitious) to help with childcare when you are a SAHM. I'd have thought the whole idea of you staying home was that he was free to concentrate on maximising earnings or career opportunities, and having only one salary does make finances tight.

I think he will resent you if you make a big deal of him cutting back on work when he's the sole breadwinner and wants to get on in life. Is he not likely to suggest that you pick up some of the slack and get a job if you don't want him doing more hours?

Itsdefinitelytimeforanamechange · 04/10/2024 14:54

SAHM here, partner works long hours but has always had weekends off. Had a very stressful time at work for about 6 months when the children were younger and worked a day at the weekends too and it nearly drove me insane! It was coming out of lockdown, but x6 days a week doing full time childcare is SO HARD. Doable, yes, but I would be very strongly resisting this too and actually suggest he looks after the children a bit in the evenings or on a Saturday / Sunday so you can study or work, it would help your CV and all income would be tax free. Or maybe he waits until you get free childcare and then works on a Saturday. I would also suggest he tries walking in your shoes and doing a x6 day week with the children on his own to see how he finds it (!!)

Shinyandnew1 · 04/10/2024 14:49

Mickey79 · 04/10/2024 14:46

He is already working a lot of hours, one day off a week would be horrendous. Would you working a couple of evenings a week not make more sense. He’ll be at home for the children so no child care costs.

Yep-this? Can you find something in the evenings?

How much will he be earning on the Saturday mornings?

Mickey79 · 04/10/2024 14:46

He is already working a lot of hours, one day off a week would be horrendous. Would you working a couple of evenings a week not make more sense. He’ll be at home for the children so no child care costs.

Maray1967 · 04/10/2024 14:16

Any chance he could work on Sundays instead? If not, I’d say no for the next couple of years - particularly if you think he just wants more money to spend on tat rather than building up savings.

Ted22 · 04/10/2024 14:09

I agree with you OP. Terrible timing with a 2yo and 1yo. In a few years he can do this, or you could look at part-time work when free nursery kicks in (or school for youngest). He doesn’t need to make your life harder now. Saturdays with very young children are precious family time.

BelleSauvage9 · 04/10/2024 14:07

lemons222 · 04/10/2024 11:50

Everyone commenting for her to get a job the financial cost of childcare for a 1 and 2 year old may not be worth it at the moment?

Yes that's the main reason. We've discussed a plan of when dc2 starts full days of school then we will just be covering the cost of childcare for dc3 and that's much more manageable.

Also I'm not talking 10 years down the line it'll be fine, I'm thinking more like 2/3 years down the line.

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BelleSauvage9 · 04/10/2024 14:04

Blinkii · 04/10/2024 10:21

How strange that my comment was removed?! It didn't say anything it shouldn't have.

It would have been the mention of the website

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lemons222 · 04/10/2024 11:50

Everyone commenting for her to get a job the financial cost of childcare for a 1 and 2 year old may not be worth it at the moment?

Peonies12 · 04/10/2024 11:46

Please seriously consider the risk of being a SAHM when you’re not married. You have zero financial protection, he could leave tomorrow and you’d have nothing. Definitely suggest you get a job. And you can’t complain about his work when he is supporting you financially.

Lurkingandlearning · 04/10/2024 11:41

If it was just for additional £ then I might see your point but you say it’s to boost his career. He can’t wait 10 years for your youngest to no longer be a young child before he starts improving his career. He might miss a lot of opportunities or miss the boat altogether.

Blinkii · 04/10/2024 10:21

How strange that my comment was removed?! It didn't say anything it shouldn't have.

Blinkii · 04/10/2024 10:06

But you do understand that he should be able to buy food at work or crap off temu, and you should be able to buy more than just essentials if that's what he wants to do? You are not in a great position if you are only buying essentials. That to me would say we are only just coping.

BelleSauvage9 · 04/10/2024 09:32

No he's not being unreasonable to want to be more financially secure, but as I said we do manage fine. And without it seeming petty to mention, he has no trouble buying unnecessary crap on Temu, and food when he's at work (rather than taking stuff from home) etc. he smokes and hasn't tried to cut down so that costs less (though does get cheaper cigarettes from a friend who gets them abroad). If he was really concerned about our financial situation then surely he would cut down on his own spending? And I don't spend much outside of essentials.

For the record I don't actually have an issue with what he spends, he works to earn money and he should be able to spend it on some things he wants and his spending isn't crazy so it's fine with me, I'm just making the point because of the mention of being worried about finances. Need to leave for toddler group but will comment again later! Also yes of course I intend to go back to work at some point but we both agreed not just yet.

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Blinkii · 04/10/2024 00:21

Hes not being unreasonable wanting to be more financially secure.