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To be concerned DM last marbles at 60

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Pinkchickglitterpants · 03/10/2024 16:00

I love DM but I have become concerned over the last 5 years ( when she retired)

Rarely drives
Often gets lost on public transport when coming to visit ( we are 5 trains away)
Doesn’t cook any longer
Tells me she is Constantly exhausted and so busy even though she no longer works .
Struggles to make decisions
Is very negative
Not able to book things online.
Can’t cope with grandchildren
Is permanently stressed

She often comments on how she has forgotten or misplaced things and is always overwhelmed as she has on much to do.

MIL in contrast who is 74 independent and calm and has just returned from traveling in America.

I am concerned my mother is not well. It’s like she is acting 95! She is in good physical health but mentally seems to struggle with everyday tasks. I can’t work out if she is not using her brain enough and has lost confidence or if she has something more going on….

OP posts:
PolaroidPrincess · 04/10/2024 08:37

Pinkchickglitterpants · 03/10/2024 21:57

@TheShellBeach
I think my DF is in denial. It’s hard as we aren’t very close . But I have noticed him become frustrated with DM which he never did before ( or I never noticed ) it’s almost like he is slowly withdrawing.
DM now is often sad that she can’t do something and I ask her - why don’t you ask DF ! I can’t help think he maybe is struggling so has withdrawn.
I think I’ve been in denial! I need to speak to DM. Then get her to GP.
I don’t want to belittle her or anything- I suppose it’s just been abit like - what’s going on with mum …??? But then I convince myself she is fine. Thats she is retired and just getting older but she is only 60. Seems mad she has lost so much of her ability.

Edited

I think it's pretty normal to be in denial, especially when your DM is still relatively quite young.

I always think that we try and convince ourselves that they are ok and things aren't changing whereas in reality our DPs might have deteriorated a stage further than we are willing to accept.

I hope you get chance to talk to them about POAs and persuade your DM to get checked. I'd still send an email to her GP outlining your concerns though as she may tell you she's seen the GP but you'll have no way of knowing if that's true.

I'd also like to recommend the book Twilight Shepherd by John Oakstone as it gives very clear and practical guidance on seeing our DOs through the stage where we need to take more care of them.

Do come on over to the Elderly Parents board too, even though your DM is not that old.

Hopefully it will be something as simple as a vitamin deficiency and she will be happier this time next year Flowers

Pennyplant19 · 04/10/2024 07:33

I'd definitely encourage her to get checked. I don't think this is normal at 60 if she's been able to do these things in the past and this is a decline. I don't want to worry you but my Mum now has advanced Dementia, but if I look back, before her diagnosed, we had started to witness things like this, although she was prescribed anti depressants which did help a bit, but I do wonder if it was the start of her decline. Sorry if this worries you - I hope this isn't the case x

ViciousCurrentBun · 04/10/2024 01:08

Please do try and persuade her to go to the Doctors.

Will admit if someone said 5 trains across the UK or fly to America, the American journey sounds less hassle.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 03/10/2024 22:42

I'm over 60 and know plenty who are. I think it's a bit concerning, especially if new. Would she see a doctor for screening?

Nanny0gg · 03/10/2024 22:27

SabreIsMyFave · 03/10/2024 21:22

Just because YOU don't know anyone (around 60) who is like the OP's mother, that doesn't mean people like this don't exist at that age. 🙄

How many do you know?

I agree about the complicated journey but the rest of it is still concerning.

Nanny0gg · 03/10/2024 22:25

Pinkchickglitterpants · 03/10/2024 16:00

I love DM but I have become concerned over the last 5 years ( when she retired)

Rarely drives
Often gets lost on public transport when coming to visit ( we are 5 trains away)
Doesn’t cook any longer
Tells me she is Constantly exhausted and so busy even though she no longer works .
Struggles to make decisions
Is very negative
Not able to book things online.
Can’t cope with grandchildren
Is permanently stressed

She often comments on how she has forgotten or misplaced things and is always overwhelmed as she has on much to do.

MIL in contrast who is 74 independent and calm and has just returned from traveling in America.

I am concerned my mother is not well. It’s like she is acting 95! She is in good physical health but mentally seems to struggle with everyday tasks. I can’t work out if she is not using her brain enough and has lost confidence or if she has something more going on….

I'm older, know a lot of older people and that really doesn't right

Individually they're not a problem but when you put them all together I'd be concerned

Would she be willing to go to the doctor?

And flippant comments on threads like these aren't reassuring or helpful

LindorDoubleChoc · 03/10/2024 22:02

Not read the whole thread, but sadly, yes, I would be extremely concerned 😞

I am 62 and all of my close friends are 55 to 70 years old. Only one of them has the sort of problems you describe, and very sadly she has been diagnosed with eo alzheimers.

Pinkchickglitterpants · 03/10/2024 21:57

@TheShellBeach
I think my DF is in denial. It’s hard as we aren’t very close . But I have noticed him become frustrated with DM which he never did before ( or I never noticed ) it’s almost like he is slowly withdrawing.
DM now is often sad that she can’t do something and I ask her - why don’t you ask DF ! I can’t help think he maybe is struggling so has withdrawn.
I think I’ve been in denial! I need to speak to DM. Then get her to GP.
I don’t want to belittle her or anything- I suppose it’s just been abit like - what’s going on with mum …??? But then I convince myself she is fine. Thats she is retired and just getting older but she is only 60. Seems mad she has lost so much of her ability.

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 03/10/2024 21:51

She had written out the route but couldn’t get to the end destination

That really isn't typical of depression, it's really an indication that her cognition is very impaired.

Do get in touch with her GP @Pinkchickglitterpants

And is it possible that your dad is burying his head in the sand, because he fears dementia?

PolaroidPrincess · 03/10/2024 21:45

Pinkchickglitterpants · 03/10/2024 21:39

@SabreIsMyFave
We are 4 hours away. I usually go to my DM but she used to come here. As I work full time and have young children. I can’t go to visit more than 5 times a year .
She used to come here for a week when she fancied it so could see the children. I don’t mind that she isn’t traveling here I just know she is sad she can’t see us as much.

It’s like
Mothers village to town - 30 mins
town to city - 1 hour
city to London - 2 hours
london to London - 10 mins
London to town - 30 mins

I am totally fine she no longer makes this journey. I understand it’s too much . I just suppose it seemed very sudden she couldn’t do it . Of course everyone is different but MIL is 16 years older and is able to plan , book and travel around Europe / America .

I started to meet my mother in London pretending I needed fo go to the city but she was still struggling . She started to go to the wrong locations /
stops and it was very distressing for her. She kept saying it was not concentrating but i
wondered if it was more. She had written out the route but couldn’t get to the end destination.

Edited

She really does need to see a GP to rule out anything that may be causing confusion and soon. If she's not willing to go, you could email her GP stating that you don't want to know anything but you want to make them aware and give a summary of what's been happening.

I've done this a few times with different relatives and they've always asked them to come in. Do it by email so that you have a record and suggest that she could be called on for a "Well Woman Clinic" or for a medication review.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/10/2024 21:41

@Pinkchickglitterpants, that sounds really worrying. If she used to be able to do that journey and can't now, something's wrong.

BunnyLake · 03/10/2024 21:40

I’m 63 and nothing like it so it would concern me. Is she in a rut? Maybe she needs more variety in her life as perhaps she’s just stagnating rather than anything more serious.

I would keep a close eye on her though as the confusion about travel shouldn’t really be a big issue at her age. I could get myself to Australia tomorrow if I had to without any issues so a trip to London would be nothing.

Pinkchickglitterpants · 03/10/2024 21:39

@SabreIsMyFave
We are 4 hours away. I usually go to my DM but she used to come here. As I work full time and have young children. I can’t go to visit more than 5 times a year .
She used to come here for a week when she fancied it so could see the children. I don’t mind that she isn’t traveling here I just know she is sad she can’t see us as much.

It’s like
Mothers village to town - 30 mins
town to city - 1 hour
city to London - 2 hours
london to London - 10 mins
London to town - 30 mins

I am totally fine she no longer makes this journey. I understand it’s too much . I just suppose it seemed very sudden she couldn’t do it . Of course everyone is different but MIL is 16 years older and is able to plan , book and travel around Europe / America .

I started to meet my mother in London pretending I needed fo go to the city but she was still struggling . She started to go to the wrong locations /
stops and it was very distressing for her. She kept saying it was not concentrating but i
wondered if it was more. She had written out the route but couldn’t get to the end destination.

OP posts:
SabreIsMyFave · 03/10/2024 21:29

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Yeah ... so?

It's still a bloody ridiculous journey. What journey would be FIVE trains (assuming it's in the UK...?) I don't know anyone who has ever - or would ever do such a ludicrous journey time and time again.

Clearly you do.

I am entitled to my views and to think this is a bloody ridiculous journey!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/10/2024 21:25

SabreIsMyFave · 03/10/2024 21:20

Exactly. Bloody ridiculous journey! Hmm Five bloody trains indeed!

I will ask again @Pinkchickglitterpants how far away is she, and why on earth is she having to do this tedious and arduous train journey, just to see you?!

Many of us have attempted to explain this sort of thing. Not everybody lives close to family and not everybody drives or is prepared to drive a long distance to avoid using public transport. My parents moved when they retired and were 400 miles and a complicated journey away from us. You may well think this is a ridiculous journey but I make it regularly because there is no alternative. Plenty of other people make similar journeys all the time.

SabreIsMyFave · 03/10/2024 21:22

StMarieforme · 03/10/2024 20:55

I am 61 and know absolutely no one who is like OPs mother! I'm friends with many people I have known for 50 years and none of us at all are like this!

OP I would gently persuade her to see the GP. It could be early onset dementia, or one of many other manageable things.

Just because YOU don't know anyone (around 60) who is like the OP's mother, that doesn't mean people like this don't exist at that age. 🙄

Popcorn23 · 03/10/2024 21:21

Pinkchickglitterpants · 03/10/2024 16:00

I love DM but I have become concerned over the last 5 years ( when she retired)

Rarely drives
Often gets lost on public transport when coming to visit ( we are 5 trains away)
Doesn’t cook any longer
Tells me she is Constantly exhausted and so busy even though she no longer works .
Struggles to make decisions
Is very negative
Not able to book things online.
Can’t cope with grandchildren
Is permanently stressed

She often comments on how she has forgotten or misplaced things and is always overwhelmed as she has on much to do.

MIL in contrast who is 74 independent and calm and has just returned from traveling in America.

I am concerned my mother is not well. It’s like she is acting 95! She is in good physical health but mentally seems to struggle with everyday tasks. I can’t work out if she is not using her brain enough and has lost confidence or if she has something more going on….

She sounds like my mother who is in her 60s and suffers from depression. Prior to this, she was functioning fine.

SabreIsMyFave · 03/10/2024 21:20

MumApril1990 · 03/10/2024 21:11

5 trains away? That’s a crazy journey! We collect my elderly MIL or visit her as we don’t want her to have to get 2 trains.

Exactly. Bloody ridiculous journey! Hmm Five bloody trains indeed!

I will ask again @Pinkchickglitterpants how far away is she, and why on earth is she having to do this tedious and arduous train journey, just to see you?!

Trinity69 · 03/10/2024 21:19

Sounds very similar to my Mum who started declining shortly after losing her Mum in 2016. She was 56 then and was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s in 2021.

greenday16B · 03/10/2024 21:18

Interesting the not cooking bit. That won't be helping.

BurntBroccoli · 03/10/2024 21:18

ZekeZeke · 03/10/2024 16:11

I wouldn’t know my arse from my elbow if I had to take 5 trains

Me too! I've always been terrible with trains!

Dymaxion · 03/10/2024 21:16

There aren't normal or abnormal things once you reach 60

True, but it will also be normal to work until you are 67/68 until you can claim your pensions.

PolaroidPrincess · 03/10/2024 21:14

MumApril1990 · 03/10/2024 21:11

5 trains away? That’s a crazy journey! We collect my elderly MIL or visit her as we don’t want her to have to get 2 trains.

60 is not elderly though. I work with one Woman who is 68 and she'd have "serious word" with you if you'd even dared to suggest it.

MumApril1990 · 03/10/2024 21:11

5 trains away? That’s a crazy journey! We collect my elderly MIL or visit her as we don’t want her to have to get 2 trains.

bringslight · 03/10/2024 21:06

ILoveAnnaQuay · 03/10/2024 21:00

Seriously? 60 isn't even near retirement age. This is NOT normal for a 60 year old.

There aren't normal or abnormal things once you reach 60