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I KNOW this in none of my business but is this reasonable?

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momtoboys · 03/10/2024 15:37

Friends of our family went abroad for 14 days and asked one of my sons (young adult) to watch their 2 large dogs for themwhile they were gone. He took care of them at our house - waked them twice a day, played with them in the garden, fed them, cleaned up after them and treated one for the last week for a would caused by allergies. They had told him they would pay him for the service but no amount was discussed (mistake #1). They returned and gave my son an envelope with $125 (US). $125 for room and board for two weeks in my opinion is a cheeky amount to pay. If they had to board them in our area it would have been well over $1,000 (not that I think that they should have paid my son that much!).

Is this an unreasonable amount?

AIBU - It is a reasonable amount
YANBU - this was not enough compensation for the services rendered

Putting on my flak vest!

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CrayonCritic5 · 11/10/2024 09:36

I totally agree it’s stingy. I think what’s happened is that the couple have got it into their heads that your son wanted to take the dogs - for fun - and that they’re giving him a little gift (even if mentioned previously) on top. The amount isn’t any real form of payment, but generous if a gift.

Noodles1234 · 09/10/2024 22:26

For two weeks I would expect to pay someone (ie not professional company) probably around £250, although I think this clearly needs to be discussed and agreed before hand.

Private companies with all the insurances etc probably just over double that.

A young 23yr old probably more than $125 (I think that’s about £95), although not bad, looking after two dogs for two weeks a bit wide off the mark.

Lesson learnt for the future !

kimchiketch · 09/10/2024 15:39

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Kbroughton · 09/10/2024 13:00

oakleaffy · 09/10/2024 10:54

That’s very different.
I used to look after a family member’s house and garden and pet during school summer holidays as the location is so lovely ( near Richmond Park)
We’d go to Museums & explore London by day and do lovely walks in park in evenings

Ds House sat old boss’s house for free and did cat / chicken sitting and gardening as again a beautiful location.

Actually I am not sure. From the OPs update they were actually on holiday with said couple while the son looked after the dogs, husband and couples husband close, they like the couple etc. I think it is actually possible this was a misunderstanding, and that when they said they would pay him it was always meant to be a gesture. In any case, the OP has made her peace with it and the son has learnt a lesson.

1HappyTraveller · 09/10/2024 12:46

Kbroughton · 09/10/2024 10:05

YABU only because it wasn't agreed in advance. My niece looks after my dogs when I go away and I only cover food and drink for her, and a bit extra because she LOVES having a house to herself and her boyfriend comes and they have the whole place to themselves and play house. (she is 19). That works for us and obviously I would pay alot more for a house sitter. It's possible the neighbours thought it was something like that. Or probably more likley they are CFs. Either way too late now. A good lesson for your son to learn. Talking money is quite uncomfortable but people will take advantage sometimes and now he knows!

More likely just CFs.
OP’s son brought the dogs to OP’s house so there were no other overheads for the friends to consider.

oakleaffy · 09/10/2024 10:54

Kbroughton · 09/10/2024 10:05

YABU only because it wasn't agreed in advance. My niece looks after my dogs when I go away and I only cover food and drink for her, and a bit extra because she LOVES having a house to herself and her boyfriend comes and they have the whole place to themselves and play house. (she is 19). That works for us and obviously I would pay alot more for a house sitter. It's possible the neighbours thought it was something like that. Or probably more likley they are CFs. Either way too late now. A good lesson for your son to learn. Talking money is quite uncomfortable but people will take advantage sometimes and now he knows!

That’s very different.
I used to look after a family member’s house and garden and pet during school summer holidays as the location is so lovely ( near Richmond Park)
We’d go to Museums & explore London by day and do lovely walks in park in evenings

Ds House sat old boss’s house for free and did cat / chicken sitting and gardening as again a beautiful location.

Candystore22 · 09/10/2024 10:50

Why was no amount discussed beforehand?

Rewis · 09/10/2024 10:25

Depends on the relationship. I've watched my friends/family friends pets for free as a favour to a friend. They squally bring a bottle of wine as a thank you.

I'd take this as a lesson learned. Next time set the price and then they can decide to take it or leave it. I think there might be very different expectation. A family friend doing a favour and getting a bit of pocket money vs. They're boarding their dogs at our house and need to pay the going rate.

Kbroughton · 09/10/2024 10:05

YABU only because it wasn't agreed in advance. My niece looks after my dogs when I go away and I only cover food and drink for her, and a bit extra because she LOVES having a house to herself and her boyfriend comes and they have the whole place to themselves and play house. (she is 19). That works for us and obviously I would pay alot more for a house sitter. It's possible the neighbours thought it was something like that. Or probably more likley they are CFs. Either way too late now. A good lesson for your son to learn. Talking money is quite uncomfortable but people will take advantage sometimes and now he knows!

LookItsMeAgain · 09/10/2024 10:04

Use this as a learning experience.

He needs to put a realistic value against his time.

Get your son to look at professional dog minding contract templates (bound to be something like that online for him to review) and if he's asked again, whip out one of these contracts, printed off ready for use. Have a fixed daily rate, a rate for a mid-week use and for a full week clearly visible. If they want his services again (if anyone does), they pay his rates for his time.

1HappyTraveller · 09/10/2024 09:38

CFs

if it happens again I would agree. Then at drop off when they are about to leave I’d explain that it’s $40/day or they take the dogs elsewhere.

Your son has looked after their two large dogs for less than $10 per day!

ChampagneLassie · 07/10/2024 05:08

I think given the nature of the relationship if I were you I’d either feel I was going to cool it or say something. I think their behaviour is very disrespectful. Presumably they asked your son rather than him offering? “Hey you do realise if you’d used a professional you’d have been paying $1000+, DS rearranged his schedule and took such great care of the dogs, I think $125 really undervalues that”

autienotnaughty · 07/10/2024 04:32

Our local kennels would charge £420 and I assume a dog sitter would be more. I think £300 would have been reasonable.

Lesson learnt for your don discuss fee before agreeing!

If they ask next year he should say 'that's fine but it will be X amount let me know if you still want me. '

Codlingmoths · 07/10/2024 03:39

It’s not enough, but it’s a learning experience for you both. When my nephew house sat to look after dogs for a friend of Dh, I made sure dh indicated a suitable minimum daily payment beforehand.

momtoboys · 07/10/2024 03:24

Autumnalfun · 05/10/2024 09:43

You’re clearly way closer than that if you’ve just went on holiday with them. Your writing like you barely know them, they are some random couple, and you barely know the wife. A few dinners a year. Except you’ve just been on a two week holiday together.

I’m back! I didn’t mean to drip feed, I didn’t think it really was important to the story. I like the dog owners quite a bit. We were not “together” on the trip but all abroad at the same wedding. I am not looking to have a go at them at all. I’m sure my post sounded that way but I didn’t mean it to. I’m over it. It is behind us. No hard feelings.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/10/2024 15:52

I think they were very unreasonable but it is a lesson learned for him to agree a rate in advance

WiddlinDiddlin · 05/10/2024 14:51

Pisstake and I would let them know I thought so.

It is a solid lesson for your son though - agree terms up front.

I once got stuck with a 'friends' dogs for 9 fucking weeks (and they were massive, giant breed) and I had to chase her for food money for them every week too. Didn't even get paid. I think she was in a bad situation and somehow decided I owed her as she once had my same breed dog (which she bred) for a week many years before... but the two situations were not remotely comparable.

That was my learning curve and as frustrating as it was, it was a valuable one!

Eddielizzard · 05/10/2024 13:47

Autumnalfun · 05/10/2024 13:20

Then move on. You’re not in charge of what qualifies, 😂

Thank god! I'll leave that shit to Starmer

Autumnalfun · 05/10/2024 13:20

Eddielizzard · 05/10/2024 12:22

IMO a drip feed is a revelation that significantly changes the OP. I don't think this qualifies

Then move on. You’re not in charge of what qualifies, 😂

secondchancesat · 05/10/2024 12:58

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Eddielizzard · 05/10/2024 12:22

IMO a drip feed is a revelation that significantly changes the OP. I don't think this qualifies

Autumnalfun · 05/10/2024 11:18

I’m guessing two weeks together was too much, the op doesn’t like the woman and she’s looking for a reason to fall out.

arthar · 05/10/2024 11:10

meganorks · 05/10/2024 09:53

I thought dog sitting was a bit like childminding in that once you are paying someone for it, legally you are supposed to be registered etc. Maybe not where you are, but I think in the UK that's the case.
If he was doing it for the money, then he really should have clarified how much up front. Could he also ask to be reimbursed for any 'extra' costs - eg extra food, poo bags, travel expenses??

It probably is regulated if you are running a business. This guy was looking after the family friend's dogs, so not much different to a friend babysitting.

WillowTit · 05/10/2024 11:09

i dont think your update makes any difference!

WillowTit · 05/10/2024 11:08

it should be double