To detest people that think they own beautiful parts of the world?

OP, are you Kemi Badenoch?

your viewpoint is utterly depressing. If you’ve already bought and enjoy living in one of these chocolate box villages, what the fuck do you care whether locals are given a helping hand to stay there if they have ties? I’ll repeat my assertion that you just don’t want someone to get something subsidised that you had to pay full price for. A true blue view.

They are significantly higher.

Yes, it's not racist or xenophobic or nimbyish to worry when a town with 20,000 inhabitants has big estates built on the outskirts with another 5000 homes and no thought about roads, new schools or medical care. Those 5000 homes won't be bought by locals, they'll largely be bought by incomers.

I know because I was one of them! I bought a new build house in the area I live in now and had no connection with the area, it was just handy to commute to London. I lived there for four years.

As for Jersey it used to be even more restrictive - you couldn't even rent, you could only have a licence for a room. Of course if you're rich you can do what you like. There are a few houses that are open market but they tend to be very expensive. An acquaintance had family there and when her aunt died she inherited her house in Gorey. She couldn't move and live in it, she had to sell it to a local. Even with the restrictions the population has grown to about 100,000 people. Goodness knows where they all live - as a pp said, prices are not remotely cheap.

The alternative is supporting unearned and state subsidised intergenerational privilege. I am shocked how many people can't understand this!

How to tell people you are entitled without telling people you are entitled.
JFC.

Alternatively, the government and companies could invest in these areas so that the younger generations can travel to work near home and get a decent wage for it. Whilst also improving the infrastructure of the area.

But the OP doesn't want this as they would then not have such a nice area to live in.

they are as affordable as most of the UK for locals

however without housing control, the CI would have the exact same problems as the desirable places in the UK

No I never said that. I said it is an issue in rural areas that farming land is being sold off for (usually expensive) housing and that isn't sustainable. That houses are built with no thought to local infrastructure or that if we contune to sell off all the farming land that there will be repercussions. I never said the countryside should only be for farmers..

Try being a born and bred Londoner 😮

Have you seen property prices in Jersey? I don't think they are affordable for locals.

Well because your argument seems to be that the countryside (or beautiful places) should be kept for the farmers. So seems pretty hypocritical to me.

A 'ring block'? Where on earth have you got that idea from?

I think on balance the CI have it right. Without housing restrictions the islands wouldn't be affordable for locals, well even less affordable than they are now!

Don't disagree with you about golf courses/priorities

Apparently the UK uses more land for golf courses than for the growing of fruit and vegetables (about 2 per cent of total land). If we are concerned about food security, we should probably be asking hard questions about golf courses, rather than refusing the building of housing. Housing shortages are also a major factor behind young people leaving rural areas.

This, by a man who grew up in a village near Leeds and has worked in fruit picking as an adult, was interesting. It also talks about the EU, but scroll down a bit to see discussion about housing and NIMBYism.

https://www.tomforth.co.uk/strawberries/

”Traffic has increased around the Balloon Tree farm shop in the past decade as more people wait to enter and exit the car park. That was a main reason why it took years to secure planning permission to expand.
“In the nearest town, Stamford Bridge, the old single-lane bridge on the main road causes longer tailbacks than it once did. Plans to expand the bridge to two lanes have been discussed since I was a child but in the face of considerable local objections are no closer to happening today. The Balloon Tree’s business rates have helped fund a cycle lane from the town to Gate Helmsley that has helped a bit, but most people prefer to drive.
“Many people in Bishop Wilton, the village where I grew up, lament the change brought about by agricultural labour being done by fewer and fewer people. Bishop Wilton’s farms have closed, driven out by high house prices and local complaints about the smell of manure they were bought by farms from outside of the village to form larger more efficient units. With them went the petrol station, the agricultural engineers, and a short-lived furniture factory. The village shop and post office teeters on the edge of viability and the pub survives only by selling meals to tourists. A village that housed 1200 people at its agricultural peak now houses less than half that number. It rejects growth and then laments the changes that its self-imposed stagnation brings.
“The village has robustly refused to build enough new housing to maintain its population. That means that all of my generation — even those with children who would love to return — have left for the cities.
“A 2-bedroom bungalow in Bishop Wilton costs over £200k today. I can buy a 2-bed home in central Leeds for half that. There is no way that a young family doing agricultural work could ever afford this. No homes are available to rent for miles. I know of only two friends who still work in Bishop Wilton. One is the village school’s head teacher and her husband runs his Dad’s recording business. They both live in York and commute back to the countryside every day.”

Why does it matter? So only if I farm something can i have an opinion?

It's the truth though. Housing estates being built with no thought as to amenities and infrastructure = no svhool places, doctors full, no public transport so more traffic on the roads. All driven by greed of developers.

@twistyizzy I think you must have unfortunately missed my earlier question. What do YOU farm?

twistyizzy
Sorry, but the way you talked about pressure on schools and doctors from 'incomers' sounds exactly like Farage when he's talking about immigrants.

Everywhere - cities, farming areas, coastal areas, suburbia - has 'incomers' of some description. Whether they're moving from down the road, other parts of the UK or abroad. And everywhere has 'outgoers' too. Such is human history and always will be.

They are already doing that but I go back to my previous point, if there is no land to farm then there will be no farmers and we will all be eating food grown in labs. Not a dystopia I want.
However as you are so acutely prejudiced your opinion really doesn't matter to me

Yes of course farmers don't only produce meat. But those who do primarily produce meat will hopefully soon be few and far between and they will need to adapt as consumer tastes change.
Liverpool had to adapt when shipbuilding ended. The last coal fired power station had just closed. Mining towns had to adapt when we shifted away firm coal. And farmers will have to adapt as we shift away from meat farming practices, many of which are abhorrent. As humans evolve places change. Otherwise they become obsolete.

Agree. So parochial it’s awful really. Sort of like NIMBYism. Same sort of selfish me me me.

ArabellaScott · Today 13:12

So, I gather the proposal is that only rich people should live in the pretty places, while all the poor people should jolly well move to the 'less desirable' places and stop moaning about the loss of their ties to family and community.
Quite depressing, really.

No more depressing than having a ring block around desirable areas, for the few that have the fortune of being born in the place. It's ridiculous. You are hardly supporting a meritocracy.

Oh Lord another sweeping assumption coming to the wrong conclusion. So because I live rurally and support farming I voted Brexit? Prejudiced much?!