To detest people that think they own beautiful parts of the world?

Biodiversity is important. Rewilding is important. You dismiss this so easily and call me naive. The arguments are complex and nuanced but it certainly isn't just about somewhere just looking beautiful. this is hugely subjective!

I wouldn't sacrifice people's lives. Stop being so dramatic! Farmers with an unviable business don't die. Their children will go on to do other things. The world doesn't end. New traditions will be made and cultures will adapt. These areas can't become museums and monuments to the past.

Do you ever go on holiday to well-known places? Do sight-seeing? Or are you Not Like Other Tourists and just go travelling in undiscovered places ;-)?

What a pleasant way to start a response.

Am I from the other end that you are from. I moved out of my "beautiful area" because people like you moved in to it and raised the house prices, complained about the local factories, farms, workforce and doing their best to shutdown the local economy.

Now I listen to those self same people whinging about how the town is either dying or dead.

So congratulations you and your type got exactly what you wanted, to move in and keep a lovely little area of beauty.

You can also look forward to your kids moving away and not coming back because they can't afford to.

Welcome to the reality that you have created.

Are you insane? Are you forgetting I live here and have kids? Why on earth would I be against investment into the area? If anyone had a vested interest in this happening then it would be me. Unfortunately I live in the real world though and know the amount of investment required to achieve this would be unaffordable and quite frankly the government has other more pressing priorities.

You don't only get cohesive high-trust communities in remote areas or those where only members of the same fairly few families have lived there for generations.

I don't know which part of London you live in but I can assure you that any part is too expensive for the average youngster these days. If you're in a "highly desirable" part then it'll be out of the reach of most middle aged ones too! So that means people have to move out to places that are cheaper because that's ALL THEY CAN AFFORD. For the most part it's not because the area is "more desirable".
And even if it is just because it's just nicer - you'd have a hell of a job turning say, the Aylesbury estate, into something resembling the Peak District if it's green hills you're desperate for!

Fact check:
I didn't call my home town a shit hole
I didn't say migrants had done anything detrimental to the town. So many on this thread have banged on about preserving the local culture in these pretty places and the importance of this as if the culture of these places is superior to the culture of places like my hometown. I happen to think the migrants have enriched the culture of my hometown and people like me have enhanced the culture in the place I currently live. Change and diversity isn't a bad thing and cultures can adapt. Don't you dare paint me as some xenophobe when nothing I have posted indicates this!

I don't need to tantrum to get what I want as I already have it. I live in a beautiful area and enjoy it everyday. I will fight for everyone in this country to have an equal opportunity to live somewhere lovely irrespective of where they happen to have been born.

Biodiversity is important. Rewilding is important. You dismiss this so easily and call me naive. The arguments are complex and nuanced but it certainly isn't just about somewhere just looking beautiful. this is hugely subjective!

I wouldn't sacrifice people's lives. Stop being so dramatic! Farmers with an unviable business don't die. Their children will go on to do other things. The world doesn't end. New traditions will be made and cultures will adapt. These areas can't become museums and monuments to the past.

I think it’s entirely reasonable for people who were born and raised in a particular area to be able to buy or rent a property in that area, if that’s what they want to do. They may wish to be near family and friends. They may have work locally. They may simply want to stay where it’s familiar.

no one seems to think this about Londoners though.

And then they get criticised for moving to other areas when they are priced out of their own

And then who would produce our food? Or do you want to rely on overseas imports which have a much higher environmental cost?
You are obviously someone who views the countryside as a picture postcard amusement centre rather than a working environment.

Two tier pricing is common in other places. We are planning a trip to Fuerteventura soon and looked at ferry prices. For a non-resident to travel Fuerteventura to Lanzarote it's 17 euros one way as a foot passenger. For a resident, the same journey is 4.25 euros - 25% of the price.

Nobody is saying we don't want tourists in rural Scotland. We welcome s manageable number of tourists, but some of the most popular places are overrun to the stage that ambulances can't get through.

Not read the whole thread, but our town has had a massive influx of Londoners. They don't want to move here for the beauty, they want to move here for the house prices.

My ex-Londoner boss invited me to his Christmas party last year. All the people, bar me, had moved from London. All of them cited their reason for moving as the ability to purchase a large family home and a 2 bed rental flat here for the same price as a 3 bed in London. One of my bosses neighbours lives in his house for 4 weeks in August. The rest of the year it's empty.

It made me sick. So many of my friends can't afford to buy here, as all these Londoners have pushed the price of a house skyhigh.y

We protected it very well thanks before the influx. Unfortunately we don’t have an interview process to keep twats out before buying a house here.

The problem is rapidly becoming volume.

Skye is a perfect example. The population of Skye is just over 10,000. The island gets 1 million visitors a year, mostly between April and September. This leads to absolute bedlam as the infrastructure just can't cope with thousands of cars on wee single track roads, driven often by people who have no clue about driving on the left, and even less of a clue about how to use passing places.

Nobody wants people not to visit Skye, ever. But too many tourists is a HUGE problem. The tourist tax will help a bit but will only cover people staying overnight on the island. Personally I'd prefer to see a £50 tax on each non-resident vehicle crossing the bridge.

Over-tourism is ruining the beauty spots everyone wants to see. That and Instagram - every sodding tourist wants to do the same as eleven billion other tourists in Scotland which is Edinburgh - Glencoe - Skye - Inverness - Edinburgh and nowhere else gets a look in. They are a bit like sheep.

I love lots of people in my community. The community isn't one homogenous mass who all want outsiders banned and local people prioritised.

Farming is controversial and really a subject for another thread. Farming has shaped our countryside but it would also be beautiful if nature were to take over.

I'm guessing you've got a second home.

Second homes should be completely banned, I grew up in a rural idyll. Now it’s over run with wealthy Londoners who stay there for a few weeks of the year. It was always a problem but it’s so much worse since covid.

Who is selling the holiday homes to the outsiders though?