To detest people that think they own beautiful parts of the world?

London has the same problem!
Full of tourists, most people who live here now aren't London born and bred, they come in from other places in the UK or abroad for the prospects.
A lot of them bugger off when they have kids of course because housing is too expensive. But those born and bred here, their children can't afford to buy here and have to move away unless bank of M&D can help them out.

I live somewhere everyone suddenly wants to move. There's a distinct lack of rented housing (social and private) for young folk starting out or folk who've secured jobs here, and this is widely known, yet some folk without jobs or any local links still turn up demanding to be housed. Yes, they've a right to come here, just as folk have a right to leave, but they cannot expect to 'jump the queue' because they're making the most noise.

But they wouldn't. Because locals wouldn't be priced out of them. Restaurants and shops that rely on the tourist trade are forced to whack up prices in summer and often close in winter. If there's a healthy year-round community, this doesn't happen. It happens precisely because there isn't a healthy year round community, and that happens when 50% or more of some places are holiday lets which aren't used in the winter.

Tourism might be the only economy now in some places, but it wasn't always like that, and part of the reason for that is local councils putting all their eggs in one basket and jumping on the tourism bandwagon.

It becomes a vicious circle. The fishing industry drops off so tourism becomes a big market, but the remaining fishermen are pushed out because the cottages by the harbour are now holiday lets. It was interesting to see on the documentary, 'this fishing life' how Cornish fishermen felt about now having to drive and hour to their boat, and having their place of work invaded every summer by people who treat it like a pretty attraction.

And some tourists actually complain about the working life of their holiday town/village. Not just fishing areas either. As a child, I lived in a small Devon village. Not hugely touristy at the time, it wasn't on the coast and the second home market wasn't a huge thing then, but we did have a few folk who decided to move to the countryside with zero understanding of how it actually works. They bought a summer residence in the heart of farming country and moaned to my stepfather who worked in milk transport about the noise of the tankers going past at 6am. Well, that's when the milk is picked up. What did they want farmers to do, milk the cows later?

I think a county should be able to exclude incomers as long a they also restrict their own children and grandchildren from moving elsewhere. Including London and other big cities where house prices are too high.

Surely it's fine for anyone to buy the homes so long as they live in them (or at least rent them out full time) rather than keeping them as mostly empty second homes?

I think people who live in London have some claim of ownership of their own residential communities certainly. The city itself, no.

The people who buy the million pound houses will want staff, underlings etc to provide services for them but no one will be able to afford accommodation in the area. So what will the people who require underlings do? Will they keep illegal immigrants in basements as slaves?

It's not an attractive prospect to me because as I say my whole family, entire life experience, culture, heritage and language is here. If I had grown up wherever you live with all those things that is where I'd stay. It's got absolutely nothing to do with the 'niceness' of the area.

FWIW I've got absolutely no problem with the building of lots more houses so that lots more people can move into the area. But that's not what happens for multiple reasons (legislative mostly, but also huge protests from people who have already moved in to 'keep it special and not spoil the pretty area' now that they themselves have what they want). People who move in directly compete for housing with the indigenous population, so every incomer pushes a local person out. While I support your desire to live here, if pushed to choose between you (who likes looking at the pretty mountains) and John from down the road (whose entire family is here and who grew up here and lives and contributes to his native culture) I'm choosing John.

In my local area, there are certain properties that can only be rented or sold to agricultural workers. Which is fair enough... they are needed to keep the farms going.

I would support a scheme where certain properties were restricted to key industries... as everywhere needs teachers, medical, service industry, police and other key industry workers.

It's just how the world works. Looking at it from a global perspective, some people are unfortunate enough to have been born in South Sudan and would kill to be able to freely just come and live in the shittiest of towns in England, but they can't because England is reserved for those who can afford it, who is already established there and have the right paper work. If we truly want a free for all world then that should surely include everyone? You are still pretty damn privileged if you are living in Jaywick compared to if you are living in Juba.

People commute and now work from home. Where I live people drive or get the train, even the bus.

Presumably those who were born and raised in places which are beautiful but with few job prospects won't ever move somewhere which has good job prospects but isnt exactly lovely looking? They'll stay where they are and put up with poor job prospects?

Thought not. So if people are entitled to move away for better opportunities, why can't people move in for better surroundings if that is what's important to them?

Unless we are going to start saying people have to stay without a 3 mile radius of where they are born, then movement has to work both ways

My whole generation of cousins (maternal and paternal), that's twenty people, are missing from the area which our families had farmed for generations in the Lake District. My childhood home recently sold for more than £1million. That's a generation not there to support their parents. There's police officers, teachers, a headmaster, mechanic, engineer, chef and social worker amongst them. None of whom can afford to go back. I do wonder how those providing those skills now afford to live there.

Fortunate? There are very few jobs in rural areas, no public transport and often high levels of deprivation. They might be pretty but they are hard places to live if you aren't rich.

I'm from Cornwall. Don't begrudge anyone moving here (have family members from all over!), but I DO resent people buying second homes that are used max four weeks out of the year so that local families cannot afford to stay in the area. The rents here are insane now. I complain about my fixer upper house but in reality I'm glad we have something affordable as even our place would cost much more to buy now.

Lots of those tourist jobs would have been in hotels though. If you are taking the hotels away, buying up property to let out as holiday lets then you are reducing jobs, giving the place less of a community feel, increasing house prices/rental prices and making it difficult for everyday things like small shops and school to be viable because they can’t survive with customers only 6 months of the year or without families with children.

It’s fine for there to be tourists, but the balance between tourists and locals needs to be right. And that does mean limiting the numbers of tourists in houses that could be used by locals. Also some tourists need to remember that the place they are visiting is people’s home.

And I guess as a 2nd gen immigrant I have even less right!

I don't agree with lots of second home owners who don't use them for most of the year. This creates a winter ghost town and prices locals out. I also hate AirBnBs who rent to noisy disrespectful groups.

Many places need tourists and are happy to have them, provided they are respectful to the locals who are NOT on holiday. Too many tourists forget this.

Do londoners own london?

the rules don’t apply to Londoners.

Isn't this a version of the tragedy of the commons?
A very difficult problem to solve!