To detest people that think they own beautiful parts of the world?

People have never been able to live where they can’t afford. Since time began they have moved out for work or housing. If someone wants to live where they were born they need to earn the money to do so.

No one is entitled to cheap housing anywhere never mind beautiful areas. Being born there doesn’t mean you’re entitled to live there at reduced rates. I’m agog anyone would think so.

This idea that people shouldn’t be able to live where they were born is a relatively new concept. Prior to our housing market going round the pipe with batshit crazy inflation, it was possible and it was also the norm. Untrammelled wealth for a smallish section of the population has ruined A LOT for everyone else.

And, OP, you sound like you could have a fight in an empty room.

My mum left the most beautiful little
village because second homers and holiday lets took over and there were not many locals
left so it was dead during non tourist seasons and it lost all its charm.

i think especially where cultures or populations are in danger of being lost or watered down too much the man there should be things in place to ensure locals have priority.

Where the fun in living in or moving to a e.g highland village and everyone there is from the south east of England? I wonder how many of those complaining about people wanting to make it more difficult to move to these “beautiful” places or touristy places also complain about non Brits not assimilating directly into British life and culture because there is a direct comparison. (And for the inevitable well we’re all British response, each region and even each village has its own culture that is slowly being eroded by goodlifers from the south east.)

I live somewhere much beloved by tourists, it's bloody irritating in the summer, but many businesses survive the winter because of the revenue they generate during the summer months. I just avoid the peak tourist areas and revel in the quiet winters!

Our house prices are sky high though as a result being "the place to be". Sadly many people born here cannot afford to be here long term once they leave home.

I think we should come down hard on:

• Airbnb and tax them out of existence
• second homes.

Beyond that I don't see any issue with people settling permanently in tourist hotspots. They contribute to the local economy like anyone else.

And it really is never healthy to not have newcomers in towns and villages...

Why do the locals keep selling to the yuppies then?

Also: complain about the smell of muck spreading, noise from tractors, sound of church bells.. even the noise made by barn owls has been a cause of complaint round here

The holiday homes etc are sold to the second home owners by those who live in the area so to a large extent the local community is implicated in the problem! One of the ways of trying to tackle the problem, which is by no means a new thing, is for properties to carry a condition that they can only be sold to those who live and work within the area, it does happen occasionally here in Norfolk.

You are part of a new community that exists after driving out the old one. The original community hasn't just adapted to assimilate you, it's disappeared to make room for you. The change you refer to is the swapping out of communities of less well off local people for wealthy new people. Which if you're part of the original community and see it scattered would seem like decimation. It is ever the way that money buys the best, and that includes location but surely its not difficult to understand why less well off people feel one advantage they did have, a beautiful location, has been taken from them?

Sure, but the locals sold their homes to the holiday let folks in the first place. Or opened them up so they could make money.

Legally we couldn't... if there is a low epc rating we cannot rent it long term.
This is where some landlords fall foul and rent bad properties to any suspecting renter and make tons of money. A responsible landlord has all legalities covered.

My dad was raised in a poor rural area close to the sea (which was looked down upon as barren). With the widespread use of cars, the area is now very desirable. We have yuppies moving into the area (who have more money than locals), and the natives are struggling to get on the property ladder. A balance is needed. You don't want to push the locals out altogether. Community spirit is needed to stay strong.

Well, lots of people do criticise the situation in London which is basically the same but on a much larger scale - rich people buying residential properties as an investment. The rules should be the same everywhere - houses and flats are either lived in full time by their owners, let on an assured tenancy, or are registered as short term accommodation with the accompanying planning controls, taxes and safety regulations.

Where does this "I'm richer than you, therefore you can find elsewhere to live" mentality end? People often cite a great sense of community as a reason for moving to such areas - yet don't realise that the influx erodes that precious and fragile thing. What about an entire country? Is it entirely reasonable for more powerful nations to displace native populations because they want the natural resources there?

I mostly agree, I think there should be some subsidised housing for people with essential jobs though. One point about tourism, in my very touristy part of the world tourism stopped being automatically seen as a benefit to the economy with the rise of airbnb, a family staying at an Airbnb (owned by someone who doesn't live here) self-catering for the week and exploring beaches etc brings almost zero income to the area but puts pressure on roads and services, water supply and the hospital. In that respect I do understand the grumbling about tourists.

Excellent post by @schloss

I'm guessing you've got a second home.

There must be a lot of in breeding going on in some villages! Ridiculous to think that people can't relocate, move with their jobs, improve their lot in life in case it upsets the locals.

But the impact needs to be managed. A town firstly does need to support its residents - otherwise there is no one to run the bars, cafes etc which tourists want to go to. Plus its residents pay council tax and contribute to the local economy too. re: normal shops no longer being viable- councils can do something to help this though. They can provide business rate incentives or support for amenities which support their residents - and they can provide incentives for residents to encourage them to shop in town more (such as discounted parking, discounts for shops etc)- the argument that it’s either a town centre filled full of tourist shops/ attractions or a ghost town is a failing of the councils and doesn’t have the be the way things are. Unfortunately town centre regeneration funds or local business support in tourist towns is often disproportionately given to tourist businesses. Now if a tourist tax was introduced (like in many European cities) that would provide funding for tourist businesses , pay for some of the increased costs associated with tourists and it would allow for non tourist businesses to get a bigger piece of the regeneration money/ business support pie. Towns and cities need to be planned strategically so they are sustainable, safe and attractive places that support everyone and everyone can enjoy them!

But she's absolutely right, community is not just made of 'locals'

My mum's family is Cornish. I can understand the frustrations re affordability, but ultimately, it's the same for everyone else. I can't afford to live in Cornwall, or the area I grew up in, or where DH works. It is what it is. The world doesn't owe me a cheap house in my preferred location. I do also find that these areas are somewhat lacking in ambition - there's no jobs waiting for me, so let's not bother trying to do anything. I'll work at Morrisons and moan instead.

Ok I will jump in on this thread, being one of those locals born and bred in an area which is deemed very desirable and visited by over 20 million tourists per year.

I firmly believe anyone can live anywhere they want but they have to accept more desirable areas will be more expensive - it is how society works, if every house was priced the same in every part of the country then you are in communism territory . Market forces will decide property prices.

I really enjoy that people not local want to live in such a beautiful place that I call home, if they move here to retire, or to setup a busy, or to work or for any reason that is great. I love my home and environment, it is a joy that others make a choice to come and share it, but some locals can be a little precious about being local and the area - people have different dispositions.

We accept that tourism is a huge economical benefit to the area but also it has its cons that the area can become busy and some visitors do not respect it as much as they should. For many who live here the tourists provide a source of income which locals fully appreciate.

I have friends, and family, who are of the mindset, which I think is wrong, that they have sold property to incomers, gaining the highest price possible but then complain their children cannot purchase property due to the high prices. They really do seem to think they can have it both ways. Yes there are more and more affordable homes being built new along with existing homes having s106 restrictions. This helps of course and does mean locals, or those who work here, so not necessarily born here, can purchase or rent at affordable prices.

Now what does annoy locals is those people who move here and then within 2 minutes of being here try and change things. We are not some backward yokels against change but we do expect people coming here to try and become part of the community, that sometimes means accepting things are not how you would like them to be.

Do not come to a valley where the majority of the locals livestock farm and tell them to eat less meat, do not tell them not to drive a 4x4 especially when it is that vehicle which is likely to be used for the rescue services and/or will help you out when the weather is bad, do not tell them they should not renovate and convert farm buildings to holiday lets as it will encourage more tourism. It is those type of incomers which cause a bad name for others and can lead to maybe the situation the OP is experiencing.

Life is for living, there are nice places in the UK and not so nice places, some people will always want to live in those nicer places and prices will reflect that.

supported my town in becoming that desirable place in the first place

I think you’re misplaced in claiming this credit. It’s Mother Nature most likely who created the desirability of your town. You just were lucky to be born there