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To think it is ok to go away with an ex (if you have kids)

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Goingtobeslatted · 02/10/2024 18:03

I was concerned by a recent post where people were slating someone’s partner because he still goes away with his ex and their children. Everyone was saying LTB he must be cheating etc.

But in real life surely it’s ok, especially if you have young children?

My husband and I have split but want to stay amicable and in the children’s lives as much as possible. I can assure you I in no way want to get back with him and he feels the same (he instigated it).

But, our children are young and very different in ages and interests so 2 adults is easier for things like theme parks and some holidays (no family to help as parents are passed and only child). Also we don’t want to miss events like first ski trips just because we aren’t ‘in love’ any more. We even plan to do Xmas day together!

If you let your partner holidays with friends why on earth not exes?! Im not saying all holiday with an ex just some and as the children get older it will probably tail off.

Surely any jealous on the part of a new partner is their issue

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Disturbia81 · 09/10/2024 13:25

BodyKeepingScore · 09/10/2024 13:22

Days out, yes. Holidays, no. It's unnecessary and causes confusion for the children because it will invariably end when a new partner comes on the scene.

No it doesn't always end hence the OP and many of the posts replying.

BodyKeepingScore · 09/10/2024 13:22

Days out, yes. Holidays, no. It's unnecessary and causes confusion for the children because it will invariably end when a new partner comes on the scene.

Disturbia81 · 09/10/2024 12:44

Lemonadeand · 08/10/2024 20:20

I don’t understand why you aren’t still together if you can happily spend a week on holiday together? If things are that amicable and neither of you has met someone else you may as well have just stayed together for the kids.

This is such a strange comment. Spending a week together with someone you are friends with versus being fully intertwined with somebody with all the many expectations of a relationship when you just want to be alone.
I just can't think of the difference 😂

MrSeptember · 09/10/2024 12:32

I think if you want to do this you have to be very careful about confusing the children. I've seen the impact in real life, although I concede that particular situation is one in which it wasn't amicable or even vaguely healthy even while the parents were doing things together "as a family".

I think overall, a friendly and amicable co-parenting arrangement should absolutely be the goal, but the lines can be very blurry, especially for children.

There is an intimacy to being parents that I think will also always make this sort of thing a bit trickier.

Chickychickybye · 09/10/2024 12:17

SometimesCalmPerson · 09/10/2024 11:58

There is nothing at all to suggest that OP clearly wants to be with her ex. It is possible for two people who share children to want to experience things together, and have the convenience of not parenting alone, without it meaning they still fancy each other.

You sound like you are projecting your own jealousy over the ex, not commenting on the OP.

Why do you think possible future partners should be considered over the wishes of two existing adults and their children? Even if new partners did exist, they are not the priority for good parents who put their children first.

I don’t suggest future partners should come before children- in my post I said the children should come first- it would be very wrong to mr if they didn’t.
no jealousy over the ex here. I respect her as mother of my DH children and am glad we have a relationship where we can all talk about the kids and any issues or concerns with them. She also has a partner and we all get on fine. My DH and his ex do a great job of co parenting.
but to me holidays would be over stepping the mark. Would be confusing for the kids also.

Beezknees · 09/10/2024 12:09

bifurCAT · 09/10/2024 12:03

Massively disrespectful to your current partner. Probably ok if you're single.

Flip the script. Would you be bothered, no matter how many years ago they parted ways if your boyfriend/husband said "honey, I'm going on holiday with Julie for a few weeks. We're taking the kids"

You'd be PISSED!

I wouldn't care.

bifurCAT · 09/10/2024 12:03

Massively disrespectful to your current partner. Probably ok if you're single.

Flip the script. Would you be bothered, no matter how many years ago they parted ways if your boyfriend/husband said "honey, I'm going on holiday with Julie for a few weeks. We're taking the kids"

You'd be PISSED!

SometimesCalmPerson · 09/10/2024 11:58

Chickychickybye · 09/10/2024 11:34

OP- you clearly still want to be with this person. As a SM/ 2nd wife who has navigated this situation for 10 years- birthdays, Xmas, school events etc- YES Holidays- NO.
in fact I’ve been to a few school events with my DH ex wife when he has been away working. A few where we have gone together.
Also occasions where I take a step back and it’s more appropriate for just Mum and Dad to go.
a holiday would be a big NO from me.
The kids come first, but there has to be boundaries for everyone
it sounds as though you haven’t met anyone else. Have you thought about their feelings if they did?
a harder Q for you (I’m assuming) how would you feel if your ex met someone else???

There is nothing at all to suggest that OP clearly wants to be with her ex. It is possible for two people who share children to want to experience things together, and have the convenience of not parenting alone, without it meaning they still fancy each other.

You sound like you are projecting your own jealousy over the ex, not commenting on the OP.

Why do you think possible future partners should be considered over the wishes of two existing adults and their children? Even if new partners did exist, they are not the priority for good parents who put their children first.

Chickychickybye · 09/10/2024 11:34

OP- you clearly still want to be with this person. As a SM/ 2nd wife who has navigated this situation for 10 years- birthdays, Xmas, school events etc- YES Holidays- NO.
in fact I’ve been to a few school events with my DH ex wife when he has been away working. A few where we have gone together.
Also occasions where I take a step back and it’s more appropriate for just Mum and Dad to go.
a holiday would be a big NO from me.
The kids come first, but there has to be boundaries for everyone
it sounds as though you haven’t met anyone else. Have you thought about their feelings if they did?
a harder Q for you (I’m assuming) how would you feel if your ex met someone else???

Foxxo · 09/10/2024 11:08

Lemonadeand · 08/10/2024 20:20

I don’t understand why you aren’t still together if you can happily spend a week on holiday together? If things are that amicable and neither of you has met someone else you may as well have just stayed together for the kids.

this is reason 2 why i won't.
I can handle him for a day out when we're buying food and not having to do domestic things.. but i know the moment i'm sharing domestic space with him again, the same issues that made me leave him (him being controlling, mean, and a martyr to doing anything he thinks is my job) would just start up again.

Icanttakethisanymore · 09/10/2024 11:05

If it's fine for you it's fine.

Gogogo12345 · 09/10/2024 11:00

Lemonadeand · 08/10/2024 20:20

I don’t understand why you aren’t still together if you can happily spend a week on holiday together? If things are that amicable and neither of you has met someone else you may as well have just stayed together for the kids.

I'm very amicable with my sons dad. But would I want to be with him all the time ( if we weren't with other people) HELL NO. And how would it have been to DSs advantage if we had staged together " for him"

Beezknees · 09/10/2024 06:56

I think it's fine.

Candystore22 · 09/10/2024 05:42

A former boss of mine went on holidays with his ex and their children. I remember thinking it was so nice that they got on as friends and were able to do this. (It wasn’t the only thing they still did together, they really seemed to be friends, it just hadn’t worked out as a relationship).
If you and your ex think you can do this, go for it.

Disturbia81 · 08/10/2024 23:43

Goingtobeslatted · 02/10/2024 19:35

i just want to confirm I wasn’t married to Brad Pitt so I am perfectly capable of not having secret feelings for my ex 😃.

In an ideal world I would eventually like a blended situation like some posters have experienced where new partners and their families can be involved (but I completely realise that may be unlikely and would take a lot of give and take and patience on all sides). These posters do give me hope that it is possible so I am glad I asked.

I think as posters have said I need to do what works for us currently. Potential jealousy in future partner shouldn’t be a reason to not do it for now.

The other reason not to do it seems to be child confusion but I don’t see how my children will be confused if we live separately and have separate rooms when are away and are clear with them it’s so we can all do xx together. It’s 7 to 10 days max which is like 2% of a year!

We will also have our own holidays with the children so this is just to share the special or ones where we would struggle alone.

There are only a few Christmases days left that the children are little so if I can I’d like to make it work so I don’t miss them.

My kids have loved and appreciated it, exDP and I are best mates. You do what works for you. Ignore the negative ones on here, they either have shit exes or are jealous of good ex relationships and are getting defensive.

Swiftie1878 · 08/10/2024 22:53

Goingtobeslatted · 02/10/2024 19:35

i just want to confirm I wasn’t married to Brad Pitt so I am perfectly capable of not having secret feelings for my ex 😃.

In an ideal world I would eventually like a blended situation like some posters have experienced where new partners and their families can be involved (but I completely realise that may be unlikely and would take a lot of give and take and patience on all sides). These posters do give me hope that it is possible so I am glad I asked.

I think as posters have said I need to do what works for us currently. Potential jealousy in future partner shouldn’t be a reason to not do it for now.

The other reason not to do it seems to be child confusion but I don’t see how my children will be confused if we live separately and have separate rooms when are away and are clear with them it’s so we can all do xx together. It’s 7 to 10 days max which is like 2% of a year!

We will also have our own holidays with the children so this is just to share the special or ones where we would struggle alone.

There are only a few Christmases days left that the children are little so if I can I’d like to make it work so I don’t miss them.

Crazy talk. Your kids’ minds will be all over the place with this. They’re kids!! Not rational adults - even some adults would find this confusing.
Stop being ridiculous. You need boundaries for the children’s sake. Grow up.

Disturbia81 · 08/10/2024 21:12

SometimesCalmPerson · 02/10/2024 18:12

Me and my ex did it a few times and it worked well. We separated when they were very small so it was normal for my children. As an adult one of them now tells me how much he appreciated both his parents making the effort to have a good relationship with each other.

Same. We did days out, holidays, still helped each other out with all sorts, hung out
The kids have said how easy and positive we made it and it meant they've had no anxiety about it.
I know I would have liked it when I was a child. Instead of wishing they could get on at least, and still have family times.

anneblythe · 08/10/2024 20:47

My husband's parents split up when he was in his teens and did amicable family days for over 20 years until fil died. He hated it, much preferred seeing them apart, seeing them together made him tense and brought back unhappy memories. He never told them though

1HappyTraveller · 08/10/2024 20:42

Some people cannot stand each other. That being said if you are not like this (it does not come across that you are) then I think it’s lovely that you are able to consider doing this for your children and also each other.

I do think that you would need to discuss some things and set some clear boundaries around partners. Someone new coming into the picture may change this dynamic and both of you will need to appreciate that any prior arrangement may not work moving forwards. You should both be prepared for this.

Whilst some have commented saying that it might confuse the children I am inclined to disagree. As long as you have separate rooms and there is no blurring of the lines regarding your relationship/affection then it seems a positive way of demonstrating to you children that relationships breakdown and that families can still work and people can still be amicable towards one another. There are so many relationships that fail and become bitter with the kids often suffering because parents can’t get along. If you both believe that you can make this work then absolutely go for it.

TowerRavenSeven · 08/10/2024 20:41

If and it’s a bit If they didn’t have a new wife or partner/gitrlfriend, maybe. Wife, partner/girlfriend I’d be pissed and it would be a deal breaker if we were married!

OneZippyShark · 08/10/2024 20:38

My parents split when I was 6 and my sister 3. They spent every christmas and several holidays together when we were young so they wouldn't miss out on things.

They were always clear that it didn't mean they were getting back together, but we never really thought to question it. We didn't have issues with new partners either.

Me and my sister are both in our 30s now and are glad they got on as well as they did and were both there for early holidays and Christmases.

It was much easier than when we were a little older and took turns of which parent we saw for Christmas or holidays.

Samesame47 · 08/10/2024 20:31

Absolutely not and I say this as a child who had parents who did this. As a child you want your parents to be together, you are creating false hope and adding further confusion to what is already a hard time. I believe that your motives are selfish (although may come from a good place). Also the moment one of you finds another partner this situation will cause problems, the new partner will be the bad guy/girl in your child’s mind for stopping the family time, it will cause resentment towards the step parent who may well be in their lives forever. I still blame my step dad for ripping our family apart 35 years on, I know in my adult rational mind that is not the case but as a child I despised him, our relationship as a result got off to a very rocky start and I ultimately left home at a very young age and had nothing to do with him (or my mum) for a few years. You are setting yourself up for a big fall. I have 3 siblings and we were all affected in the same way. My dad equally felt the massive hurt when the pretend happy family ceased and the new partner was (rightly so) given some consideration, he went completely off the rails (the original split was mutual) he left the country and turned his back on us all, I didn’t see him for 20 years. He is now back in my life but it’s a minimal call in a blue moon relationship, I don’t think of him as a dad anymore. Our parents could have made our lives so much easier by just going their separate ways and being civil, but they didn’t, they wanted to create happy family memories so we spent many years living a weird existence, people gossiped behind our backs, we never knew where we stood and ultimately all they did was cause us added stress. 2 of my siblings are no longer in contact with my parents at all, I speak to my brothers maybe once a year, my sister a little more - their well intended actions fractured our family beyond repair. No one has met my dads new wife or subsequent children, he has a new normal family. Oh and weirdly sometimes the two of them will still talk and go meet each other, sometimes I actually now feel sorry for the step father that I dislike so strongly. My mum told me once they were bound together as a result of having 4 children and whilst they would never want to be together they will always be important to one another. Personally I think they are both a bit fucked up and confused. I apologise for the rant, I do hope though that me digging deep and expressing how it has affected my life and those of my siblings and parents makes you rethink - it’s not healthy. It’s great if you can get along and be civil, enjoy your child’s birthday party together but you certainly do not need to take that first ski trip together as a family, you are not a family, you are 2 individuals who share children.

Thirdusername · 08/10/2024 20:21

I holiday with my ex and two kids. Separate bedrooms. Kids don't seem to think it's confusing. We tend to go with other families too, not sure I'd go just us four. But that's cos I wouldn't want to sit in just us two adults every night with the kids in bed. I imagine it will fizzle out when one of us gets a serious partner. But it works for now.

I was really grateful last time because I had a bad sickness bug abroad and it made me realise how buggered I would have been without another adult to help.

Lemonadeand · 08/10/2024 20:20

I don’t understand why you aren’t still together if you can happily spend a week on holiday together? If things are that amicable and neither of you has met someone else you may as well have just stayed together for the kids.

NoClueForAName · 08/10/2024 20:03

Perfectly reasonable thing to do and I’m utterly baffled by those who say it’s ‘inappropriate’. How? Why?

My ex and I separated 6 years ago. We have three children. I have a new partner. I go on holiday with my ex and the kids. Would I go on holiday just with him? Hel no! But we get along fine and with the kids it’s ok.

Like you, the kids are differing ages / interests and one has autism so having two adults there is useful.

And those who say it’s ‘confusing’ for the kids aren’t crediting then with much intelligence. Kids are perfectly able to compute that ‘Mummy and Daddy aren’t a couple any more but we are friends and we love you so we’re happy to be able to go on holiday together’. Or similar age appropriate words.

My new partner isn’t remotely bothered by it as he’s sensible and knows I’m 100% emotionally invested in him and understands our reasons and that it’s goos for the children to see my ex and I having a sensible healthy way of managing things.