Harassed by kids in street

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Bracelet here.

There's a bracelet you can buy that you break in the event you're robbed or being harassed and it lets out a seriously foul smell. It's enough to distract and cause the attacker to stop what they're doing and for you to get away.

Honestly, these days it's safer and easier to buy a walking pad and get exercise at home than venturing out. Particularly as the police are facilitating these feral creatures with their behaviour.

I see on YouTube humanoid robots being developed to the point where they'd be quite useful as personal security devices for women. We might even be able to go outside with confidence one day if we can be accompanied by something which could snap the legs off an attacker.
"Wasn't me guv it was me Teslabot, must have malfunctioned, oh well, never mind"

Can't wait.

I used to train in self defence and the number one thing they train officers to do is deescalate the situation. You do not want it to turn physical.

Physical is a last resort, because you are more likely to end up hurt.

Once adrenaline kicks in you don't know how your body will respond. We trained officers and civilians to reprogram their brains to fight properly if needed. Most people won't know how. Even cops freeze in moments of violence.

🎵 In the clearing stands a boxer ... 🎵

I know you are not representing the CPS and neither are you chief constable.

I'm asking you , if you were in charge, what would you have liked to have seen doled out to these thugs-you declare their offences included arson and burglary.

If you were in in charge, would you have liked to have seen them placed under lock and key or did you think that telling them not to hang around together, was a suitable punishment for the havoc they caused.

What do you think?

If you don't want to say, fine, but it is certainly not irrelevant to ask an anonymous police officer on an anonymous forum, what their personal opinion is of a case which they themselves have detailed.

From your other posts, in which you advise people not to defend themselves and were appalled at my suggestions for dealing with them-none of which involved having a nice chat and telling them not to hang out together- I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that you think locking the wee bastards up is wrong.

Am I right?

I don’t know. I would hope so but maybe not. I am sorry this happened.

Feral little shits

You have my sympathy and well done for reporting it.

I had similar outside a village shop a long time ago. I got home, burst into tears and my husband went straight to the shop, found a bunch of kids hanging around and spoke to them. They initially gave him some lip at which point he absolutely gave them what for and made them move on.

I hate the fact that the kids got to me and that it took someone else, particularly a man, who was angry, bigger and stronger to get them to back off. I am not afraid of walking out and I haven't changed my behaviour, but that incident has really stayed with me.

I'm ancient too, everytime someone says something like that crap (they are just kids) all I can think is so were Robert Thompson and Jon Venables.

There have been many more since them and too many recently.

Stories like this remind me of the Sophie Lancaster case. Kids have a pack mentality sometimes so things can and do escalate. Realistically I'm not sure what you can do other than report to police and avoid areas where you feel vulnerable. It's not fair we have to limit where we go, but please be safe.

As I said on page 2, the last time I called police about criminal behaviour of some 12 year olds I basically got told to engage with them in a friendly way and see if I can’t remind them what good behaviour looks like.

I sound ancient but the world’s gone mad.

Irrelevant seeing as the CPS makes those charging decisions, not the Police. 😄

Are you in hebburn OP? That’s my home town. If you are in hebburn , I’d suggest posting on the community FB page asking for parents to make sure they know what their children are doing.

They have committed serous offences including burglary and arson.

Are they now under lock and key? If not, why not?

Or was telling them not to associate with each other deemed a reasonable response?

If you were Chief Constable, what would you have liked to happen to them?

@OrchardBlack OK so it's just your opinion not to defend. Which is what carrying Farb Spray is - defense. I didn't say to randomly spray people but if someone is threatening to assault you and then charges at you on a bike, why wouldn't you defend yourself from being attacked?

12 is over the age of criminal responsibility, if they are marked during their attempted assault they are easier to identify. Maybe if feral children weren't excused as just kids they wouldn't be such murderous little monsters.

I can answer that for you @HebburnPokemon

They do it because they can. They fear no consequences because there are none.

Someone on this thread declared they are a police officer and advises all victims not to take any action against them as that will be illegal.

These type of thugs have no manners put on them at home, at school or by the police. They may know little else but these thugs walk the ground doing what they like, without fear or favour, because we as a society decided to allow them to do so.

Can it be reigned back? No. I don't think so. Even on this thread, bleeding hearts trailing sleeves of tears and mee-mowing behind them, comes along to say some version or other of , 'they are children.'

I didn't give any advice about not throwing a glass of water, I simply used that analogy to explain the definition of assault, please read my posts properly.

Trust me, if you'd have seen how I dealt with the last group of youths - 3 weeks of solid work, with arson, criminal.damage, assault and burglary, terrorising their local community, I can assure you you would not be calling me soft 😄

Gone from a no go zone to back to a quiet cul de sac again, mainly because I gave them all court conditions not to associate with each other (criminal behaviour orders, massive step for young kids but they reached the threshold, it was that bad). I'm sure I'll have others saying I was too harsh 😂 Cant please them all!

OP, I'm going to step away from this thread now as I worry I'm derailing it. Take care and feel free to call or email your local neighbourhood policing team for advice, you should find it on your force website.

First of all, I don't know when one person on an Internet forum became the spokesperson for all police officers and somehow the mouthpiece for their whole 'stance'. If I was a doctor giving advice here, as many do, would you say I was the 'NHS' stance' ?. I always find that most odd.

Anyway, there is a huge jump from me not saying a victim should protect themselves and support them commiting offences themselves.

Part of defending yourself, as you state, is by collating, as much OP as you feel able to do so, as much evidence as possible in the hope they kids can be ID'd by another officer or PCSO (Cannot do media appeals due to their age). If a positive ID can be made, the next steps if you are supportive can be made, and this can include,.as I said, ASB warning letters/Community protection warnings etc. I wouldn't want to say what steps could be taken as I obviously wouldn't be the OIC.
Of course, call 999 if you feel immediately in danger. Hope you're ok, it can be so intimidating 💐

@OrchardBlack

In fact, I know read that you say you a police officer and advise everyone not to even throw a glass of water in an aggressor's face.

More proof as to why the goths are inside the gate and setting the agenda. The advice of you, a police officer, is to let these twats walk all over you.

I suppose you would prefer that the OP and others like her runs and hides as long as she doesn't upset the children! That she at least accepts that she-and other adults- are powerless.

If so, then you are part of the problem that has led us to this pass- a pass where feral children intimidate others and the police are helpless.

People still really think a 12yo is still some wee little kid. These vile things are killing people, being violent bullies and capable of despicable things. Being 12yo doesn't mean that they need to be given any sort of understanding and sympathy.

Is it possible to identify which school they (should) be going to? I would write there with a description of them. I would also contact your local councillor and even MP. Obviously, the police.

If you write down everything as a sort of "master copy", you can then use this as a template.

I would avoid anything like filming or pretending to film, because that is direct confrontation with them and likely to cause you distress. Best try in such situations to just get out of harm's way... and then write to all of the above instances.

How horrible for you. Can you go walking in a different place for the next month or so? I would not like you to get stressed again by this.