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Harassed by kids in street

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HebburnPokemon · 02/10/2024 17:13

On my daily walk in a woodland area just now I was harassed by a group of kids on their bikes. They were swearing, saying if I didn’t answer them they would smash my face in, and coming towards me on their bikes and swerving aggressively. I’ve never seen anything like it. They looked around 12.

I'm 5ft0 and autistic. I was alone. I felt scared.

What can I (realistically and legally) do if this happens again? Aside from reporting to police who won't care.

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sommerjade · 05/10/2024 16:43

If you do film them please use a crossbody phone strap to try to stop them snatching your phone off you. Gripping it tightly won't work.

Todaywasbetter · 05/10/2024 11:45

That’s all good to hear and now you’ve got permission to film them. You probably won’t see them again.

HebburnPokemon · 05/10/2024 10:28

It was comforting to hear a police officer endorse filming kids on your phone during threatening situation. It has given me the confidence I needed to go about my daily walks.

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GameofPhones · 05/10/2024 10:22

Good outcome. You have got support now, and will be prepared in case it happens again.

POPULARrainbow · 05/10/2024 09:51

HebburnPokemon · 05/10/2024 09:42

Update: I had a phonecall from a lovely female police officer yesterday. She asked for a description of the kids, asked if I would speak in court if they happen to find them in future and even asked if I would speak to the kids themselves (in a controlled environment). I said yes to everything. Of course, as there was zero evidence, they couldn't pursue the crime in isolation, but she explained it's been logged and will contribute to a picture. She was very supportive. I asked if it was okay to film the kids on my phone if it happens again, she said "absolutely YES. The age of the offender does not matter." She urged me to report if it happens again.

Quite surprised at the fast and proactive response tbh.

That’s really good OP. I’ve been thinking about you. My hometown has changed over the last 40 years in many cases not for the best.

i hope you never have any further problems with that group of children.

Pussycat22 · 05/10/2024 09:45

13Ghosts, shame oven cleaner spray ain't legal!!!

HebburnPokemon · 05/10/2024 09:42

Update: I had a phonecall from a lovely female police officer yesterday. She asked for a description of the kids, asked if I would speak in court if they happen to find them in future and even asked if I would speak to the kids themselves (in a controlled environment). I said yes to everything. Of course, as there was zero evidence, they couldn't pursue the crime in isolation, but she explained it's been logged and will contribute to a picture. She was very supportive. I asked if it was okay to film the kids on my phone if it happens again, she said "absolutely YES. The age of the offender does not matter." She urged me to report if it happens again.

Quite surprised at the fast and proactive response tbh.

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Ablondiebutagoody · 03/10/2024 23:09

Todaywasbetter · 03/10/2024 18:18

I live in what a lot of the UK think is a dangerous part of London. I never see kids behaving like this never

That's because people in your area would quite rightly smack them in the mouth. In other areas, people worry about the legalities of defending themselves, desert the streets to the yobs and try to get the police involved (who are useless. See PP). So the problem gets worse and worse.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 03/10/2024 23:02

Please don't call 999.

Why not? Children that age have killed adults and OP sounds small and vulnerable.
Plus I'm buggered if I know what else the police actually do nowadays anyway.

GameofPhones · 03/10/2024 22:48

HebburnPokemon · 03/10/2024 12:49

How scary. What did he say?

He mumbled something I couldn't hear, but got right up close to me, which is why I turned away.

JazbayGrapes · 03/10/2024 20:15

In your experience, why do kids do this?

Stupidity and impunity.
In my experience, 12-13 is like second toddlerhood. Just look away and they do dumbest shit, like eat their own snot, scribble on walls and break whatever isn't nailed down.
Nobody willing to dish out any discipline isn't helpful either. Schools are very big on crap like uniform code, but when its antisocial behavior then there is "nothing they can do". Police will do fuck all and people are scared to even defend themselves.

Marshmallowbrain · 03/10/2024 19:25

StMarieforme · 02/10/2024 18:25

Don't use your phone- they'll snatch it from you OP.

Body worn camera would be best. Start at around £50 on Amazon.

Tell them firmly to leave you alone. "Ok lads that's enough now- I'm just out for a walk" followed by "I have asked you to stop". So that it's clear that you have asked. Try not to be too far away from more populated area/ your car. (Yes that makes me mad that you have to).

I'm a runner and always having to consider this stuff 🤬🤬🤬

I was thinking the same thing!

Todaywasbetter · 03/10/2024 18:18

I live in what a lot of the UK think is a dangerous part of London. I never see kids behaving like this never

letiton · 03/10/2024 18:11

This kind of behaviour seems quite bad at the moment. In my local town centre kids now have free transport and while most kids use it for positive things it has lead to an increase of bored teens hanging about town up and getting up to no good including attacking people, often women. There are posts almost daily on local groups about something happening.

HebburnPokemon · 03/10/2024 18:08

No sign of them today. Maybe my boringness yesterday bored them off.

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SunflowersAndSquash · 03/10/2024 16:41

LivelyPearlBee · 03/10/2024 09:19

Children. Shorthand on MN. He didn't just film adults with children present, he filmed groups of children who were engaging in antisocial behaviour and shouting abuse at him.

Which led to false accusations of him being a paedophile. Which contributed to his murder. The Police also massively contributed by telling him to stop filming as they felt he was inflaming the situation; but not dealing with his harassment and abuse and some Police were sacked following.

No, it's shorthand for Dear Children or Darling Children. Those children were neither.

SinnerBoy · 03/10/2024 15:58

HebburnPokemon · Yesterday 21:00

In your experience, why do kids do this?

Unfortunately, it's not really rational. They do it because they enjoy causing fear and pain, just like all bullies do. Once you're marked, that's probably it.

What would be the best way for me to respond?

I really don't have the answer, they may react OK one day and explode the next.

Going by your username, are you walking in the Hill Park area? I've friends there and there are loads of little scumbags on the estate. Junkie and dealer parents, jailbird parents and the like. One couple have a Belgian sheepdog ad the lady of the couple is happy to walk her, even at night.

The dog isn't aggressive, but has reacted to back her up at least twice.

JazbayGrapes · 03/10/2024 15:49

TheNoonBell · 03/10/2024 13:36

Get a big dog. The harrasment will mysteriously stop.

i'm afraid if a dog as much as nips a kid, it will be ordered to die.

caramac04 · 03/10/2024 15:42

OP I get the feeling that responding physically is not something you would be comfortable with - like many other people.
Having worked with these sorts of kids I think I could handle the situation but it could rapidly escalate.
I agree with bodycam or baseball hat with camera. They are hands free and more discreet.
Your apparently calm response was good and also reporting the incident to the police.
I agree de escalation being the first point of defence and that is what I’d do.
Please be careful because some kids are capable of causing serious harm despite their age.

LondonFox · 03/10/2024 14:00

ShaneFulorgy · 02/10/2024 17:40

No you bloody wouldn't 🙄

OP, that sounds scary, I hope you're ok now. If it happens again just keep walking, increase your pace a bit and keep your wits about you. But I would try to take a walk somewhere a bit more populated if possible.

Why not?
Problem with women being easy targets is that they do not defend temselves in 99% of cases.
An adult woman can absolutely smash 12y old. Few of them.
Saying as someone who fought adult males.
They are mostly shocked by an attack.

TheNoonBell · 03/10/2024 13:36

Get a big dog. The harrasment will mysteriously stop.

Fevertreelover · 03/10/2024 13:34

RoundAgain · 02/10/2024 17:42

Don't use physical force against them because then they could accuse you of something and then you would have to explain yourself to the police. It's even not okay to just push someone who is attacking you. I found that out the hard way, I'm sorry to say.

Well that's nonsense for a start. The law is very clear on self defence.

Fengipack · 03/10/2024 13:31

A gang like this has been riding around my town swerving in front of traffic and spitting in windscreens and abusing motorists.

They rally on tik tok , meet up and cause mayhem. The police have issued a dispersal order in one of their meet up places .

HebburnPokemon · 03/10/2024 12:49

GameofPhones · 03/10/2024 10:48

Anti-social behaviour is more the territory of the Conservatives, and if they would convincingly firm up about it, and about women's rights in general, I would consider voting for them next time, though I never have before.

Fwiw, I recently had a man approach me when I was walking my dog late at night. I instinctively said 'Excuse me' and turned away as if needing to attend to my dog. This was non-confrontational, and he walked away. Of course another man might not have done, but I thought my response worked well this time.

How scary. What did he say?

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HebburnPokemon · 03/10/2024 12:45

JazbayGrapes · 03/10/2024 10:25

One was riding his bicycle at me heals, calling me bitch and demanding money.
I was scared and enraged at the same time. My instinct was to grab and shove.
Illegal? Don't care. Police are going to do nothing about it anyway, as said here already.

They really are scum, aren’t they? Where do they learn this behaviour 😡

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