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Would you ever get over hearing someone call you a name?

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Gripeseed · 02/10/2024 15:41

Sister in law was once on the bluetooth speaker in my brother’s car. She didn’t realise I was in the car when my brother picked up her call. Out of nowhere she randomly refers to me using a swear word. I was absolutely shocked! My brother hung up immediately and tried to style it - “oh she’s misheard what I said”.

But to be honest I have never felt the same towards her after that incident. We had always been perfectly nice to each other when we met up. I am polite to a fault and she has good manners also (in public). In fact I had always gone out of my way to be nice - e.g. home cooked meals when I was heavily pregnant, dropping off baked goods when I made too much etc.

After I heard this a couple of years ago I kind of just detached emotionally. Still perfectly civil.

Am I being harsh? Would you have got over it?

I never got an apology and we never addressed it.

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nootcoffee · 03/10/2024 10:01

Illegally18 · 02/10/2024 23:24

Well, in that case your Dad deserved it. What was the sister-in-law's reason?

tbf, it is unlikely the OP is the most objective person on that particular question!

TotHappy · 03/10/2024 09:51

Just for a counterpoint, OP, while I agree about why this shocked you and permanently altered your feelings to her (I'd hate it. Its the vitriol), calling someone a cunt doesn't necessarily mean you despise them utterly. I use it in much the same way I use dick I.e. sometimes a minor expression of frustration about someone, sometimes a more serious verdict on their character. E.g. I might say 'why is so and so being such a cunt about this!'
I would be careful to use it about someone where it might get back to them though because I know it has more impact than other names.

Whatfreshhellisthis2 · 03/10/2024 00:11

MounjaroUser · 02/10/2024 20:44

I think she's one of those people who presents a front to the world but is very, very different indoors. There's an expression, "street angel, house devil" that's usually used about men who are abusive at home, that seems apt here.

How happy does your brother appear to be with her? I can't imagine he has an easy married life. She said that to him in a casual way about his own sister who hadn't done anything wrong. God knows how she talks to him when she thinks he has done something wrong.

Although I'm really sorry you heard it, on the other hand it's good that you did. I'd hate to think of you being friendly to her while she talks about you like that behind your back.

It's really shocking that she didn't apologise. I can't imagine there wasn't a discussion about that at home - the fact she hasn't really tells you a lot about her and their marriage.

I agree with this.

there doesn’t appear to be any back story or bad blood between you. You’ve been oblivious until
now, which makes it sounds like she harbours an intense grudge about you for no other reason than you’re in your brother’s life.

sounds like she’s a nasty abusive person who is projecting onto you.

Illegally18 · 02/10/2024 23:24

FailureAndSuicide · 02/10/2024 18:18

What a wonderful life you've led. I called my Dad a cunt after years of abuse from him.

Well, in that case your Dad deserved it. What was the sister-in-law's reason?

TwixOrDoubleDecker · 02/10/2024 21:48

@CantBelieveNaive I totally agree with you but was wondering if perhaps this approach might help to find out what has caused her to say what she did.

Gagaandgag · 02/10/2024 21:27

Do you wish you were closer?

Do you think she is quiet as a mouse with your family because she’s never felt comfortable around you? (Not blaming you)

Have you seen her around her own friends and parents etc

dessyh · 02/10/2024 21:20

She sounds like she's got many issues and she and your brother don't have a very nice relationship. Even if you were the worst person, to speak like that about you to each other so casually suggests they're immature and not very happy people. It seems like however your brother feels about you, she's encouraging him to dislike you for some reason.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 02/10/2024 21:04

Thulpelly · 02/10/2024 20:51

Why did she feel comfortable to call you that in front of your husband?

She didn’t. She said it to her husband, the OP’s brother.

Respectisnotoptional · 02/10/2024 21:01

Horrible for you to hear that word used about you OP, it’s the one word I could not forgive. I know many would say it’s only a word, but it’s not, it’s the lowest of the low and an absolute insult.
I can never understand how often it’s used on here, it’s vile and says a lot about the user.

MounjaroUser · 02/10/2024 21:00

Ghosttofu99 · 02/10/2024 20:53

What was your bro supposed to be doing that day (e.g. spending time with Sil or kids?) What was the job he was taking you to b&q to help with. Maybe some context would be useful.

Not really.

worthofbostworlds · 02/10/2024 20:57

@JaninaDuszejko

"You are now criticing her on a public forum, how would you feel if she read this and recognised the story? "

I can't imagine OP would care. Why should she?

You think if the SIL read this she's going to burst into tears?

And the OP should care?

The SIL said a vile thing. OP has been quite factual about it. Why are you trying to imply OP should feel some kind of guilt about talking about it?

Basically: if you don't want people to know you call your SIL a cunt behind her back, don't call your SIL a cunt behind her back.

Ghosttofu99 · 02/10/2024 20:53

What was your bro supposed to be doing that day (e.g. spending time with Sil or kids?) What was the job he was taking you to b&q to help with. Maybe some context would be useful.

Thulpelly · 02/10/2024 20:51

Why did she feel comfortable to call you that in front of your husband?

worthofbostworlds · 02/10/2024 20:50

annieloulou · 02/10/2024 19:10

Conversation between me and SIL (no previous issues and totally unprovoked)

SIL - what days do you work now?
AL - Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
SIL - Hang on, Tuesdays Wednesday and Thursday?
AL - Yes?
SIL - Well, you know what that makes you then!
AL- What?
SIL - Tuesday , Wednesday and Thursday - T, W, A, T - you’re a TWAT (laughing hysterically)
AL - 🤷🏻‍♀️🙃🤷🏻‍♀️.

Things have been somewhat cool since ……

YANBU.

....but that's a joke?

That's really different to overhearing someone calling you a cunt.

If you've been "cool" towards your SIL for that I'd say you've massively overreacted over a silly joke.

MounjaroUser · 02/10/2024 20:49

I wouldn't think her brother speaks about her like that, rather that her so-called timid SIL is a woman who feels free to be disrespectful about his family and her brother either isn't strong enough to stand up to her or doesn't dare stand up to her because she holds something - the threat of not seeing children? - over his head if he doesn't.

Yesgojess · 02/10/2024 20:47

It’s horrible to hear yourself be spoken about like that, and completely understandable that you’d be guarded ever since. But have you considered that it was more of a dig at your brother than at you? Like maybe she didn’t want him going out at that time or they had plans or something. I’ve found that when I’m peed off with DH I am much harsher about his family. And I’ve definitely dropped the c bomb about his mother.
I’d just raise it with her For your own sanity if it actually still bothers you. I hate things stewing like that.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 02/10/2024 20:46

It just hit me that maybe I’m the odd one for having totally written off an important relationship because of one (small?) incident.

It’s not a small thing. I pretty much swear like a sailor, but even I put the brakes on for ‘cunt’, which tends to get rolled out very sparingly and only ever in relation to someone I think wholly deserves the worst kind of vitriol.

If your polite, quiet SIL thinks nothing of throwing that one out apropos of not very much at all, and your brother didn’t immediately kick off in your defence, I’d be questioning how they speak about you in private.

It’s horrible, OP, and I’m sorry you heard it at all, but your reaction and distancing of that relationship is perfectly understandable. It’s not something anyone would easily forgive and forget.

Tae1 · 02/10/2024 20:44

Such disgusting language is not something that anyone I know has ever used. I think a lot of people live their lives with out using it.
She sounds particularly rough behind closed doors.
You clearly previously only saw her front.

That your brother and his wife are comfortable referring to you in such a manner says so much about them.

I wouldn't want to spend time with them and I certainly wouldn't want them in my home.
That you have managed a civil relationship is a credit to you, but is possibly down to your people pleasing tendencies.

It really is the most vulgar of language and that she uses it so casually tells me you have no idea who she is.

It would change utterly my opinion of my brother too.

MounjaroUser · 02/10/2024 20:44

I think she's one of those people who presents a front to the world but is very, very different indoors. There's an expression, "street angel, house devil" that's usually used about men who are abusive at home, that seems apt here.

How happy does your brother appear to be with her? I can't imagine he has an easy married life. She said that to him in a casual way about his own sister who hadn't done anything wrong. God knows how she talks to him when she thinks he has done something wrong.

Although I'm really sorry you heard it, on the other hand it's good that you did. I'd hate to think of you being friendly to her while she talks about you like that behind your back.

It's really shocking that she didn't apologise. I can't imagine there wasn't a discussion about that at home - the fact she hasn't really tells you a lot about her and their marriage.

TiredCatLady · 02/10/2024 20:43

I’d probably wonder what my dear brother was calling me behind closed doors to lead to that…

Duckinglunacy · 02/10/2024 20:42

I had a situation several years ago where my SIL (DH’s sister) wrote an absolutely vile email about me. She had taken exception to an opinion I had expressed, clumsily, and nothing like what you’ve experienced and went full character assassination on me. We had previously been close. A huge family rift ensued lasting some months.

I did later apologise for my part in things (which really was a throwaway comment) and she accepted it but has never come close to apologising for the awful things she wrote about me. I’ve always found that hard to get past and it’s affected our relationship. I reckon the lack of resolution is your issue.

CantBelieveNaive · 02/10/2024 20:37

TwixOrDoubleDecker · 02/10/2024 16:27

Oh god how horrendous for you. Agree that it shows that this way of referring to you was not a one off between your brother and SIL.

I'm wondering if there is any mileage in somehow calmly bringing it up one day and asking what it is that you had said or done that made her talk about you in that way? Maybe frame it in a way that makes you sound like you are worried you had at some point upset her?

It would sit with me for years. I'd try to forgive but not sure I could. Very hard indeed.

Its the SIL that is to blame, no excise for calling the OP that ❌

CantBelieveNaive · 02/10/2024 20:30

Was she saying it in a ironic/jokey way as in you're so lovely and kind she called you that as it's the last thing you are!??

It's such a horrible word though, it would really upset me and make me take a step back.

Sorry you heard that buy at least you saw her true colours.

Hoping its what I said at the start! 💕🤞😁

Smittenkitchen · 02/10/2024 20:26

Don't think there's any going back from that. Absolutely not an overreaction on your part. You don't owe her any more than basic civility at the most, of course you're not going to feel like being cosy with her any more. She sounds like a very peculiar person.

Montydone · 02/10/2024 20:24

Disturbia81 · 02/10/2024 17:52

Also I hate it when siblings partners try and sour the relationship between them, it happens so much

Yes this - I would hazard a guess she is jealous of you and your brother’s relationship. She’s probably created a narrative around you and then she is projecting her feelings (of jealousy/resentment whatever it is) onto you, hence such a strong word! This is really not about you.
BUT… why do you have to be so nice? You’re clearly (and rightly so) pissed off with her and your brother about it. I think if I were you I’d:

  • find a time alone with my brother (maybe out for a drink sometime, if she allows this!) and talk to him about it; tell him it really upset me that she said it and he didn’t challenge it; ask where it came from… just see how he responds, it might be interesting
  • not be so bloody nice to her! Let some of your anger out a little bit. This is possibly not the most mature way to respond, but I think I’d respond in kind- not make the effort; be cool with her, a bit like how your sister is
  • probably not talk to her; from how you’ve described her, I don’t think it would lead to resolution
  • decide for myself what I think about me. Not take in how I am described by someone I don’t even particularly like

the above might help you to let it go a bit, I hope so