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Go Ape refusing refund

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Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:13

I can’t work out of I’m being unreasonable or fighting like a mama bear here in the right.
took my kids to Go Ape on Sunday as a treat as it’s expensive (£60 for all of us). I’ll pop my original complaint email in as it explains it all thoroughly. Emails have been back and forth since then with them apologising and offering a discounted voucher for us to return and “give it another go”. I’ve said we don’t want to return as the left in tears feeling like they’d been rushed and the last thing they want is to go back! I just want a refund but 12 emails back and forth are going nowhere. They have said they shouldn’t have been rushed but they don’t do refunds and theyd like us to come back with a discount. Do I just leave it and chalk it up to experience? Or do I keep going and if so how? TIA.

Dear customer services,

Im just writing after quite a disappointing experience at X Go Ape today. It was myself and my 2 children, 8 and 11, one of whom has autism. We booked for the only available slot left which was 16:30 and arrived by 16:15 to be in plenty of time.

We had to wait for a while for the safety briefing which was fine, and we got started. We were told we would have the chance to do 4 levels if we wished. We started off great and were enjoying it until we finished level 2 and my son heard some instructors saying we were “over time”. When we went to wait at #3 an instructor said we were running behind with time and as they were closing soon we likely wouldn’t have time to do course 4 if we did 3 so we felt pushed to do 4. This wasn’t helpful as it felt a big step up from course 2 and my son felt rushed and was worried saying they’re closing, so we hurried as much as we could. It ended in a bit of a downer sadly with the kids just feeling like they’d “taken too long” on courses 1&2 despite being told in the safety briefing that we could take as much time as we needed on the levels.

I’m disappointed because we arrived in good time and if the last slot was always going to be rushed I think that should have been made clear at point of booking. We had to miss out a whole level which we had paid for. It was a lot of money as a treat and we all just left
A bit downhearted after a good start.

I’ve been to Go Ape before and had a really
Positive experience so this felt quite disappointing sadly and I’d appreciate a gesture of a refund and to let the very nice staff know that rushing us didn’t feel fair given we had paid for a slot so feel we should have been given the same time as everyone else who booked for earlier.

Many thanks etc

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KRealLife · 03/10/2024 00:54

Keep it simple and short though. You booked for an hour activity and by their records only git 47 minute and during that 47 minutes you were rushed. As they also admit, you were given incorrect information which resulted in your sons becoming upset/dissapointed.

You paid for an hour in the trees and you didn't get it.

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 00:39

KRealLife · 03/10/2024 00:35

OP, please don't let this drop. They have said in that email you only got 47 mins in the trees. They have really shortchanged you. It's not just the reduced time it's the fact you were rushed. . You paid for an hour and you didn't get it.
Tell them you still want your money back or you will go to your credit card or debit card and ask for a refund. (Section 75 or a chargeback)

They can easily refund you. They are choosing not to because they think you will give in. They could also easily offer you a voucher for a 100% of the cost but they are choosing not to.

I'd complain again but please, please keep it simple.

Thank you, I’ll give it another go. I wish they wouldn’t keep acknowledging all they did wrong but saying here’s 10% off to come
and do it all again 🤦‍♀️

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KRealLife · 03/10/2024 00:35

OP, please don't let this drop. They have said in that email you only got 47 mins in the trees. They have really shortchanged you. It's not just the reduced time it's the fact you were rushed. . You paid for an hour and you didn't get it.
Tell them you still want your money back or you will go to your credit card or debit card and ask for a refund. (Section 75 or a chargeback)

They can easily refund you. They are choosing not to because they think you will give in. They could also easily offer you a voucher for a 100% of the cost but they are choosing not to.

I'd complain again but please, please keep it simple.

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 00:14

No, i wanted a refund that was relative to and appropriate to what we lost and the distress it caused my son, not a 10% discount to then have to pay out £54 to go and repeat it all again! Con artist? No. Happy to stick up for my rights with a purchase that didn’t deliver as admitted by GA? Yes.

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Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 00:09

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 03/10/2024 00:02

I think YABU to expect a FULL refund if that is what you are after? It sounds like you still managed to complete much of the course but were only allowed 50 mins instead of the full hour (closing level 3 doesn’t seem to matter as it sounds like you probably couldn’t have completed it in time even if you’d had the extra 10 mins?). BUT It was very unfair not to give you the full time and so make your son feel rushed on the levels they were able to complete.

Imo they are also being unreasonable only offering you a 10% discount on another booking - that’s nothing 😡 But so many companies these days try that for poor service - like you are going to voluntarily give them almost the same amount of money again when you had a lousy time the first time around 🤣

At least a 10% refund instead for not getting your full time would be more reasonable - or more likely many places would give you half price off another visit instead.

But unfortunately it doesn’t sound like that’s going to happen- so it’s social media, trip advisor etc honest review time, so you can at least warn other families with autistic or even just nervous kids, that they may get rushed and not get the full time they pay for.

I think you’re right. I’ll just leave it now and let the support agencies we are involved with in the area know to let other families know our experience so others hopefully don’t have the same experience. There’s a nice supportive network
where recommends (or the opposite) can be shared so it’s probably all I can do. Definitely not accepting a 10% voucher to return! Thanks to everyone who has made
helpful comments 🤍

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IamnotwhouthinkIam · 03/10/2024 00:02

I think YABU to expect a FULL refund if that is what you are after? It sounds like you still managed to complete much of the course but were only allowed 50 mins instead of the full hour (closing level 3 doesn’t seem to matter as it sounds like you probably couldn’t have completed it in time even if you’d had the extra 10 mins?). BUT It was very unfair not to give you the full time and so make your son feel rushed on the levels they were able to complete.

Imo they are also being unreasonable only offering you a 10% discount on another booking - that’s nothing 😡 But so many companies these days try that for poor service - like you are going to voluntarily give them almost the same amount of money again when you had a lousy time the first time around 🤣

At least a 10% refund instead for not getting your full time would be more reasonable - or more likely many places would give you half price off another visit instead.

But unfortunately it doesn’t sound like that’s going to happen- so it’s social media, trip advisor etc honest review time, so you can at least warn other families with autistic or even just nervous kids, that they may get rushed and not get the full time they pay for.

Itsrainingloadshere · 02/10/2024 22:56

Would you have been able to complete part 3 of the course in 12 minutes though? If you’d already taken around 15 mins per section and part 3 is harder (as GA said in their email) you wouldn’t have had enough time left in your hour in the trees to do that section anyway, no matter what time they closed, it’s an hour in the trees.

As a pp has said maybe they need to be clear what happens if you get to a new section just before your hour is up, and doing that section would take you over the hour.

Seems to me that you didn’t have enough time left within your hour to do the remaining section even if it hadn’t been closed.

MzPixie · 02/10/2024 22:05

I don't think you should get a full refund tbh you should have booked a earlier slot to allow time if needed I certainly wouldn't be continuing this with them

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NeverEnoughPants · 02/10/2024 22:03

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 21:17

I want them to keep the course open for the hour I paid for and was booked on for😂

Presumably the course was open for the full hour. You just skipped a part, and by the time you got back to it, that specific part had been closed because everyone had gone past it.

As a business, the just sensible course of action would be to close every section once the last customers were through. Had you done them the other way round, you may well have been able to do both 3 & 4.

Gagaandgag · 02/10/2024 21:56

surreygirl1987 · 02/10/2024 21:48

Actually, with this additional information, I agree with you. A 10% discount voucher is also very stingy. But why didn't you explain it like this before?

So you didn’t get an hour in the trees?!

WowSpeechless · 02/10/2024 21:53

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 21:26

Yes, we hurried to level 4 because the instructor was rushing us. as soon as we got up there and i looked at my watch and saw we had plenty time we slowed down but it was too late for my son who was upset and fixated on completing the 4 levels the first instructor told him he would and that we had time for!

"Yes, we hurried to level 4 because the instructor was rushing us. as soon as we got up there and i looked at my watch and saw we had plenty time we slowed down but it was too late for my son who was upset and fixated on completing the 4 levels the first instructor told him he would and that we had time for!"

So the instructor rushing you is irrelevant as you had already discovered level 3 was closed to you - and the bit the instructor rushed you to do was to start level 4.....and then (in your words) "as soon as we got up there and I looked at my watch and saw we had plenty time we slowed down".... so level 4 was not in rushed? Just you physically getting to level 4 to start the course was rushed?

By the way - same happened to us - we got to level 3 and were told not enough time but our slot was mid afternoon. But I just accepted it and when we went again we made sure we went through faster.

surreygirl1987 · 02/10/2024 21:48

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:40

They’ve offered a 10% discount.
slot was 16:30. We arrived at 16:15 to check in.
hardnesses on by 16:40 but then had to wait for safety briefing so didn’t start level 1 until 5:10. Finished level 4 at 5:50 and were told level 3 now closed and were back in car by 6:02 despite the website saying allow 2 hours from start to finish. Which they didn’t give us.

Actually, with this additional information, I agree with you. A 10% discount voucher is also very stingy. But why didn't you explain it like this before?

Gagaandgag · 02/10/2024 21:46

Boltonb · 02/10/2024 14:31

Sounds like you paid for an hour in the trees, which is what you got. Your party progressed too slowly to complete all parts of the course within the hour, so it was suggested that you miss one stage.

I think a refund would be ridiculous, and a voucher is generous. Maybe don’t choose a late slot for a slow party in the future.

Yes op, you are being unreasonable

Haggia · 02/10/2024 21:46

CrazyGoatLady · 02/10/2024 21:31

"Neurodiversity"
Term to describe the fact that all human brains differ.

"Neurodiverse"
Term for describing society or groups of people who all have different brains or neurotypes.

"Neurodivergent"
Term to describe a person whose neurocognition falls outside the expected norms, such as autism, ADHD, dyslexia etc.

Thank you for this, I didn’t appreciate the meanings myself. Massive differences.

WowSpeechless · 02/10/2024 21:42

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:31

We didn’t get the hour and their terms say you have a a lot up to 2 hours if needed ☹️

This is what you posted "We had 90 mins but 20 of those taken up waiting for safety briefing" which means you had 70mins instead of the 60mins? So 10mins more than what the website says is a min on the trees?

Bunnycat101 · 02/10/2024 21:42

So you got 47/60 minutes. They shouldn’t have cut you short. It’s probably reasonable to be asking for up to 20% off but no more given you did the bulk of the course. If you through in lots of irrelevant waffle to your complaints they’ll just get fed up of you/find it easy to fob you off. If you’re very to the point that you didn’t get 60 minutes and felt that the staff could have managed expectations better you’ll likely get further. If you’ve had more than 10 emails already I think you just need to move on and stop being quite so fixated on getting a refund.

Haggia · 02/10/2024 21:40

You’re missing my point OP. I literally have zero need to educate myself about your son’s disability.

I’m sorry to be blunt. But the world does not revolve around your child’s disability. Nor does it revolve around mine. We as adults are responsible for making sure needs are met where possible, by communicating clearly, supporting emotionally (still don’t know why it got as far as both kids crying) and making life feel somewhat navigable. People aren’t perfect at understanding, but I find most people kind and helpful. I’m not entitled and I don’t have a chip on my shoulder about it, it’s just part of who I am.

WowSpeechless · 02/10/2024 21:38

I think the purpose of this thread it to name and shame Go Ape because you are angry - but if you have been to Go Ape before then you would know what its like. You know that its booked in blocks of time because that's what it looks like in the booking system which you have used twice now.
The website says "Treetop Adventure offers an immersive one to two-hour high ropes experience." The start is from when you are putting harnesses on and the safety briefing etc - its not two hours of climbing.
I am sorry you did not enjoy your family experience as much as you expected you would.

CrazyGoatLady · 02/10/2024 21:36

tattygrl · 02/10/2024 21:32

Technically, neurodiverse refers to the whole human population. The brains of humanity are neurodiverse, as there is a diversity in our neurology. Neurodivergent refers to a specific individual with a brain that works differently to the majority, hence "diverging". An individual cannot have neurodiversity; they are neurodivergent.

Proving my autism diagnosis here with my indulgence in pedantry 😂

Same here 😂

Normally I don't indulge my deeply autistically pedantic tendencies around language. Neurodivergence is also my professional area of work and a special interest, so I try to be mindful that others are not immersed in it to the same level I am! But I dislike it when people are snotty towards others for not knowing the correct terminology while not using terminology correctly themselves. Hypocrisy isn't a good look.

frazzledandtired1 · 02/10/2024 21:34

Stop using your autistic child as an excuse to get a refund. Your posts are all over the place and this is what is coming across on here. Give it a rest.

tattygrl · 02/10/2024 21:32

Technically, neurodiverse refers to the whole human population. The brains of humanity are neurodiverse, as there is a diversity in our neurology. Neurodivergent refers to a specific individual with a brain that works differently to the majority, hence "diverging". An individual cannot have neurodiversity; they are neurodivergent.

Proving my autism diagnosis here with my indulgence in pedantry 😂

CrazyGoatLady · 02/10/2024 21:31

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 21:27

I do. Perfectly. Thanks though 🤣

"Neurodiversity"
Term to describe the fact that all human brains differ.

"Neurodiverse"
Term for describing society or groups of people who all have different brains or neurotypes.

"Neurodivergent"
Term to describe a person whose neurocognition falls outside the expected norms, such as autism, ADHD, dyslexia etc.

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 21:27

CrazyGoatLady · 02/10/2024 21:26

Before you go off at people for not knowing what terms mean, you may want to consider Googling "neurodiverse" and "neurodivergent" and using those correctly.

I do. Perfectly. Thanks though 🤣

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Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 21:26

CrazyGoatLady · 02/10/2024 21:24

You're contradicting yourself again.

Your OP said "my son felt rushed and was worried saying they’re closing, so we hurried as much as we could"

Then you said you tried to complete level 4 so you could do level 3.

Which is it? Were you hurrying and rushing because they rushed you and you thought it was closing imminently and your son was anxious or were you trying to get round the whole course before closing despite having been clearly told there wasn't time?

Your story just doesn't add up, you give different versions of things and that's why you're getting a hard time here from people.

I'm autistic and I'm the first one to get mad about genuine disability discrimination. But what you are describing just isn't that. You are taking absolutely no responsibility for reading the information about the activity and managing your own children's expectations and pushing all of that on to the instructors. As parents of autistic kids, we can't leave that to people who don't know our kids like we do.

Yes, we hurried to level 4 because the instructor was rushing us. as soon as we got up there and i looked at my watch and saw we had plenty time we slowed down but it was too late for my son who was upset and fixated on completing the 4 levels the first instructor told him he would and that we had time for!

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