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Go Ape refusing refund

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Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:13

I can’t work out of I’m being unreasonable or fighting like a mama bear here in the right.
took my kids to Go Ape on Sunday as a treat as it’s expensive (£60 for all of us). I’ll pop my original complaint email in as it explains it all thoroughly. Emails have been back and forth since then with them apologising and offering a discounted voucher for us to return and “give it another go”. I’ve said we don’t want to return as the left in tears feeling like they’d been rushed and the last thing they want is to go back! I just want a refund but 12 emails back and forth are going nowhere. They have said they shouldn’t have been rushed but they don’t do refunds and theyd like us to come back with a discount. Do I just leave it and chalk it up to experience? Or do I keep going and if so how? TIA.

Dear customer services,

Im just writing after quite a disappointing experience at X Go Ape today. It was myself and my 2 children, 8 and 11, one of whom has autism. We booked for the only available slot left which was 16:30 and arrived by 16:15 to be in plenty of time.

We had to wait for a while for the safety briefing which was fine, and we got started. We were told we would have the chance to do 4 levels if we wished. We started off great and were enjoying it until we finished level 2 and my son heard some instructors saying we were “over time”. When we went to wait at #3 an instructor said we were running behind with time and as they were closing soon we likely wouldn’t have time to do course 4 if we did 3 so we felt pushed to do 4. This wasn’t helpful as it felt a big step up from course 2 and my son felt rushed and was worried saying they’re closing, so we hurried as much as we could. It ended in a bit of a downer sadly with the kids just feeling like they’d “taken too long” on courses 1&2 despite being told in the safety briefing that we could take as much time as we needed on the levels.

I’m disappointed because we arrived in good time and if the last slot was always going to be rushed I think that should have been made clear at point of booking. We had to miss out a whole level which we had paid for. It was a lot of money as a treat and we all just left
A bit downhearted after a good start.

I’ve been to Go Ape before and had a really
Positive experience so this felt quite disappointing sadly and I’d appreciate a gesture of a refund and to let the very nice staff know that rushing us didn’t feel fair given we had paid for a slot so feel we should have been given the same time as everyone else who booked for earlier.

Many thanks etc

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WidowCranky · 03/10/2024 09:32

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:30

sorry I agree it’s confusing

  1. you are meant to complete each “stage” in around 15 mins but they have a buffer of a 2 hour slot to allow for safety briefing and handing back harness. We had 90 mins but 20 of those taken up waiting for safety briefing

Its a 2 hour slot to allow for all the extras as youve stated so why does the fact it took 20 minutes to do the briefing keep being mentioned when thats what the 2 hours is for. Each stage being approx 15 mins and you had over an hour in the treetops so youve had your moneys worth.

You also keep saying that its expensive but thats not really reasonable, you knew the price when you booked it and were happy to pay that amount. Just because you didnt like the experience doesnt mean the cost is now too expensive.

I think theyve been reasonable.

Magnastorm · 03/10/2024 09:30

Gotta love an AIBU where the poster just wants people to agree with them.

You get 1 hour in the trees, but obviously it takes a certain amount of time to do each section. If you take too long to do 3/4 sections, then you can't fit the other one in, in the time you have available. Expecting a full refund despite this very obvious point is really, really fucking cheeky.

HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:30

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:28

I did. But I’ve said this 100 times now in this thread so maybe read it before throwing rude accusations.

You didn't. You had 13 minutes left. You took more than 15 minutes on the other courses. You would not have completed it within the 1 hour.

Autumnowl · 03/10/2024 09:30

Discount,not distance

Autumnowl · 03/10/2024 09:29

I think a discount to go again is fair .
We are all autistic and I'd never book something at the end of the day ,or so near to teatime ,as I know it would be a disaster being rushed and hungry.
I'd go again,take the distance book for after lunch one day
They are being more than fair

HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:29

SoupDragon · 03/10/2024 09:26

I think you are the one who doesn't understand. Is your reading comprehension usually this poor?

What do I not understand? They took 47 minutes to complete 3 courses (while rushing the 3rd course). There was not enough time left to do the last course because it would have taken longer than the 13 minutes they had left. They could have spent those remaining 13 minutes taking their time on the previous course or just sitting on their bums if they wanted, but they were never going to be allowed to do the other course because it was too late.

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:28

HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:25

I can't tell if you just don't understand or if you're just too stubborn to listen to people explaining it to you. You did not have enough time to complete the last course which is why you could not start the last course.

I did. But I’ve said this 100 times now in this thread so maybe read it before throwing rude accusations.

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Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:27

Think this is going round in circles here as understandly people can’t read every comment as there are so many! Going to take the sensible advice of asking for a 25% refund, will update when I get a response as appreciate the kindness and genuine help of many of you. Thank you.

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SoupDragon · 03/10/2024 09:26

HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:25

I can't tell if you just don't understand or if you're just too stubborn to listen to people explaining it to you. You did not have enough time to complete the last course which is why you could not start the last course.

I think you are the one who doesn't understand. Is your reading comprehension usually this poor?

SereneFish · 03/10/2024 09:25

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:23

go ape have confirmed 47 mins exactly according to our wrist bands. I wasn’t 100% sure on that until they confirmed it and apologised.

Nah, they confirmed 90 minutes. Only the extremely gullible believe your 752 changes of story.

HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:25

I can't tell if you just don't understand or if you're just too stubborn to listen to people explaining it to you. You did not have enough time to complete the last course which is why you could not start the last course.

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:23

HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:22

Woman. You did get that time. You just couldn't complete 4 courses within that time because you were too slow. You would have run over your 1 hour limit if you'd attempted the course you didn't do.

Woman?!

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Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:23

SereneFish · 03/10/2024 09:22

How much time are you claiming to have got this morning? So far we've had 90 minutes, 70 minutes, 50 minutes, 47 minutes, 45 minutes, and 40 minutes. Or are you picking a fresh number for a fresh new day?

go ape have confirmed 47 mins exactly according to our wrist bands. I wasn’t 100% sure on that until they confirmed it and apologised.

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HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:22

Woman. You did get that time. You just couldn't complete 4 courses within that time because you were too slow. You would have run over your 1 hour limit if you'd attempted the course you didn't do.

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:22

nOasistickets · 03/10/2024 09:19

Does sound like the standard reply of ‘we will look into training our staff better’. Sorry you had to go thought that OP - but I don’t think they will refund the whole lot - after all you did do the majority of it. - maybe you should ask for 25% or whatever percentage of the cost you calculated you lost etc. we love go ape - never had an issue with it and we’ve also had the last slot - never felt they’ve made us hurry to finish either.

Yes this is good advice and I’m going to go back and ask for this to be refunded not towards a voucher.

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SereneFish · 03/10/2024 09:22

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:21

We didn’t get that time. Hence my complaint.

How much time are you claiming to have got this morning? So far we've had 90 minutes, 70 minutes, 50 minutes, 47 minutes, 45 minutes, and 40 minutes. Or are you picking a fresh number for a fresh new day?

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:21

Nannyoggapple · 03/10/2024 09:20

Are you confused about the timings?

You don't get two hours on the course.

You get one hour in the trees.

The other hour is to get ready and for safety presentations.

I've attached this screenshot from the go Ape page

We didn’t get that time. Hence my complaint.

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Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:20

Nannyoggapple · 03/10/2024 09:15

It's not that it's not much money to me, it's just seems that you got the activity for a very good price.

A lot of similar activities in the UK would cost way more than that.

Perhaps and that’s why we have to be very selective with what we choose and choose activities that allow a carer in for free 🤷‍♀️

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Nannyoggapple · 03/10/2024 09:20

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:08

Yes but we didn’t get the 2 hours.
might not seem much to you, and i hope you had a nice castle tour for that price, but it’s a lot for me so I save up for special days out every few months and to not get the full time is really disappointing.

Are you confused about the timings?

You don't get two hours on the course.

You get one hour in the trees.

The other hour is to get ready and for safety presentations.

I've attached this screenshot from the go Ape page

Go Ape refusing refund
nOasistickets · 03/10/2024 09:19

Does sound like the standard reply of ‘we will look into training our staff better’. Sorry you had to go thought that OP - but I don’t think they will refund the whole lot - after all you did do the majority of it. - maybe you should ask for 25% or whatever percentage of the cost you calculated you lost etc. we love go ape - never had an issue with it and we’ve also had the last slot - never felt they’ve made us hurry to finish either.

NeverEnoughPants · 03/10/2024 09:18

If we believe what op is posting about how long she was on the course, how about we believe where she answered 'yes' when someone asked if she got an hour?

CrazyGoatLady · 03/10/2024 09:18

MidnightPatrol · 03/10/2024 09:02

Probably get flamed for this but…

I notice more and more of these posts of people being utterly unreasonable and demanding (often involving wanting all their money back) - and every time the reason ‘oh my child is neurodivergent’.

It’s really great that more places are adapting to help ND children experience things in a way that accommodates their needs - but if every experience isn’t 100% as you’d have liked it to be, it doesn’t mean the provider has failed and you should get all your money back.

I'm neurodivergent and have ND kids (one autistic, one AuDHD). I've also worked as an ed psych and in CAMHS with ND kids and families.

Discrimination does happen, sadly. But most of the time, things don't go to plan for one of the following reasons.

  1. Families take a ND child to an activity the child can't really cope with, it's overstimulating and they have to leave early.
  2. The ND child would usually cope but something else has happened and they're outside their tolerance and can't cope, or are having a bad day.
  3. An unintentional mistake or misstep has been made in communication, instructions etc by the staff/business, because mistakes happen.
  4. Another child or member of a group/the public accidentally triggers the ND child by doing something that they do not know will be upsetting for them.

OP's issue is probably scenario 3 here.

What she's teaching her ND kids is that if something doesn't turn out the way you want, or someone makes an unintentional mistake, the way you respond to that is by hounding them, shaming them and demanding things for free. It absolutely doesn't teach them anything about dealing with disappointment or how to deal with others getting things wrong. And frankly, that's why I used to see so many kids in my clinic with very poor coping skills and who could not tolerate anything going wrong, ever. It wasn't because they were ND, it was learned behaviour from families who would kick off every time something wasn't exactly to their liking and cry discrimination over small errors.

Advocating for your neurodivergent children does not have to equal being a dick to everyone who doesn't do things perfectly. Life is not perfect and things sometimes not being how we expected or wanted is a fact of life. Parents who try to eliminate every single possible source of upset or disappointment from a child's life do them no favours at all. The rate at which a ND child can cope with that may vary depending on their age, stage and support needs of course, but it is still not helpful to create a bubble in which nobody ever makes a mistake and treads on eggshells (or demands others do) to avoid the child ever experiencing something even slightly negative.

HollyKnight · 03/10/2024 09:16

You don't "get" 2 hours! You have to allow for 2 hours. You get 1 hour on the courses. You get to complete as many courses as you can within that 1 hour.

Nannyoggapple · 03/10/2024 09:15

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:08

Yes but we didn’t get the 2 hours.
might not seem much to you, and i hope you had a nice castle tour for that price, but it’s a lot for me so I save up for special days out every few months and to not get the full time is really disappointing.

It's not that it's not much money to me, it's just seems that you got the activity for a very good price.

A lot of similar activities in the UK would cost way more than that.

PuddlesPityParty · 03/10/2024 09:14

Stripyseason · 03/10/2024 09:08

Yes but we didn’t get the 2 hours.
might not seem much to you, and i hope you had a nice castle tour for that price, but it’s a lot for me so I save up for special days out every few months and to not get the full time is really disappointing.

You don’t get TWO HOURS on the course. You got your 90mins on course as you stated in an earlier post. You’re changing the narrative to fit your complaint. They won’t bloody let you back full stop if you carry on.

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