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Go Ape refusing refund

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Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:13

I can’t work out of I’m being unreasonable or fighting like a mama bear here in the right.
took my kids to Go Ape on Sunday as a treat as it’s expensive (£60 for all of us). I’ll pop my original complaint email in as it explains it all thoroughly. Emails have been back and forth since then with them apologising and offering a discounted voucher for us to return and “give it another go”. I’ve said we don’t want to return as the left in tears feeling like they’d been rushed and the last thing they want is to go back! I just want a refund but 12 emails back and forth are going nowhere. They have said they shouldn’t have been rushed but they don’t do refunds and theyd like us to come back with a discount. Do I just leave it and chalk it up to experience? Or do I keep going and if so how? TIA.

Dear customer services,

Im just writing after quite a disappointing experience at X Go Ape today. It was myself and my 2 children, 8 and 11, one of whom has autism. We booked for the only available slot left which was 16:30 and arrived by 16:15 to be in plenty of time.

We had to wait for a while for the safety briefing which was fine, and we got started. We were told we would have the chance to do 4 levels if we wished. We started off great and were enjoying it until we finished level 2 and my son heard some instructors saying we were “over time”. When we went to wait at #3 an instructor said we were running behind with time and as they were closing soon we likely wouldn’t have time to do course 4 if we did 3 so we felt pushed to do 4. This wasn’t helpful as it felt a big step up from course 2 and my son felt rushed and was worried saying they’re closing, so we hurried as much as we could. It ended in a bit of a downer sadly with the kids just feeling like they’d “taken too long” on courses 1&2 despite being told in the safety briefing that we could take as much time as we needed on the levels.

I’m disappointed because we arrived in good time and if the last slot was always going to be rushed I think that should have been made clear at point of booking. We had to miss out a whole level which we had paid for. It was a lot of money as a treat and we all just left
A bit downhearted after a good start.

I’ve been to Go Ape before and had a really
Positive experience so this felt quite disappointing sadly and I’d appreciate a gesture of a refund and to let the very nice staff know that rushing us didn’t feel fair given we had paid for a slot so feel we should have been given the same time as everyone else who booked for earlier.

Many thanks etc

OP posts:
Pelagi · 02/10/2024 16:16

They are being rubbish. They didn’t, as far as I can tell, give you what you paid for, in terms of time. The only “compensation” they are offering is the “opportunity” to pay them more money to do it again. A discount for next time means you still have to pay them yet more money, and does not make up for the fact that you already paid for something you didn’t fully get. So they need to refund at least the proportion of the cost that matches the time you lost.

Nottodaythankyou123 · 02/10/2024 16:16

FiveTreeHill · 02/10/2024 15:18

But OP didn't get what she paid for

She paid for an hour and got 40 minutes. Only 66% of what she paid for.

Well originally she said she had 70 minutes (90 less 20 safety), then it was 45, then 40, then 50 - so I think it’s fair to assume she did get the whole hour

Waterbaby41 · 02/10/2024 16:14

You and your children clearly experienced most of the available adventures so expecting a full refund is unreasonable. You have an apology and a gift voucher so Go Ape have listened to you and made amends.

BellesAndGraces · 02/10/2024 16:12

Grammarnut · 02/10/2024 16:10

But you arrived late, not leaving enough time for the necessary safety talk before your slot started.

I’m so intrigued by why you think she arrived late when she booked for 4.30 to 6.30pm, arrived at 4.15pm and was booted out and back in the car by 6pm!

Dyke · 02/10/2024 16:11

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Grammarnut · 02/10/2024 16:10

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 15:10

Yes they admitted this in one of many follow up emails

But you arrived late, not leaving enough time for the necessary safety talk before your slot started.

Grammarnut · 02/10/2024 16:07

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:31

We didn’t get the hour and their terms say you have a a lot up to 2 hours if needed ☹️

From what I can see on their website you have an hour to complete the treetops course, which is for under 10s. So it's a hour on the course (however many levels) and you need to allow an hour for the safety talk and getting out of harnesses at the end - it's not that if you are slow you get extra time; if you are slow you will miss a bit of the course. If you had an hour in the treetops you can't really complain, because you arrived late, since your slot was presumably 16.30 to 17.30. You needed to be there at 16.00, perhaps, or maybe earlier?

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Spinet · 02/10/2024 16:03

I think you should decide what would be acceptable and push for that. You're very unlikely to get a refund but you could get vouchers or a bigger discount. I would be pushing the fact that they say they are hidden-disability friendly but their mishandling of this meant that you didn't get what you paid for (unhurried time to complete the course and given one of your kids was wearing the sunflower lanyard which they claim to respect it should have been obvious this might be longer than usual).

If you keep bugging them you'll probably get it eventually, but I don't know if you'll actually want to go back. If not I'd just drop it for your own sanity (and maybe warm other families with SN about your experience).

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 16:03

Grammarnut · 02/10/2024 15:49

But from their letter you get an hour to complete the levels, the other hour is for safety instruction, harnessing and unharnessing. The point is, did you get your hour? You are being unreasonable asking for a full refund if you did. Also, do they shut at 6 pm (sounds as if they do); if so you should have arrived at 4 p.m. for the safety talk and harnessing etc.

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Exactly this. No they shut at 6:30 and my slot was 1630 -18:30

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Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 02/10/2024 16:00

If you only got 40 minutes on the course instead of the hour you paid for you should get a refund.

If you are communicating to them as unclearly as your posts are here I am not surprised they are obviously not getting it.

Dear Go Ape,
I paid for 1 hour of tree top on X date/time I was told to leave the course after only 40 minutes because you were closing. I didn't get the 1 hour service I paid for, give me my money back or I'll take you to trading standards (or whoever these complaints go to to be resolved).
Regards
Stripy

Is all that was needed.

Button28384738 · 02/10/2024 16:00

I think their response is fair too sorry. If you had 90 minutes on the course and then time for safety briefing and taking kit off then that's 2h.
I guess they could make it clearer when you book that completing all 4 levels might not be possible, to avoid disappointment.
You come across as being a little entitled in your email, I would take the discount voucher and go again so you can have another go and do the level you missed out on.

HollyKnight · 02/10/2024 15:59

Did they not just mean that there wouldn't be enough time to do all 4 courses in an hour based on the speed you completed the first 2? If course 3 is the trickiest one, you were only ever going to complete 3 courses max in that hour, hence why they recommended you do the "wow loop" because it is more fun I'm guessing.

BogRollBOGOF · 02/10/2024 15:57

Shampine · 02/10/2024 15:15

12 emails in, I think the longer you spend on this the more "expensive" this trip gets to you (in terms of time and money combined) and your best outcome is to let it go.

I tend to think there's often an "autism tax" to pay - we get less, have to leave earlier than others, nearly always, because autism. 3/4 is not bad, especially if you used a free carer ticket or anything like that. (I have no qualms about using a carers' ticket for a family trip, because our visits are so much briefer than other people's. )

The 10% off voucher is a bit of an insult though - it might give me the rage!

You also have to be more careful with timings around busyness, and being rushed and personal factors like energy/ hunger. Booking the last slot of the day does run the risk of encountering issues such as delays that accumulated through the day, so it may be prudent of the OP to add that to the list and generally avoid last slot of the day bookings.

There isn't really any reasonable adjustment to be applied here. The staff can't stay on unpaid and indefinitely to complete the course if people are making slower progress. That delays the site shutdown for all staff.

The autism premium affects a lot of what we do and it's just reality that we get less value due to leaving early/ arriving late (to get there at a happy time of day) or powering around at DS pace. Sometimes it's better for us to break things into shorter return visits than aim to do everything thoroughly in one go.

I think the discount was a fair offer. OP had the majority of the experience and it does not deserve a refund.

Grammarnut · 02/10/2024 15:49

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:25

Yes, but we actually were out a whole half hour early as had been made to skip 3! By then there was only us and level 3 was closed and we left at 6, half an hour before our allocated 2 hour slot

But from their letter you get an hour to complete the levels, the other hour is for safety instruction, harnessing and unharnessing. The point is, did you get your hour? You are being unreasonable asking for a full refund if you did. Also, do they shut at 6 pm (sounds as if they do); if so you should have arrived at 4 p.m. for the safety talk and harnessing etc.

BellesAndGraces · 02/10/2024 15:48

Cerealkiller4U · 02/10/2024 15:37

Forget the 2 hours

did you have one hour on the tree top? Nothing else

did you have the one hour?

Who do you think you are? The Stasi? If I were the OP I wouldn’t be responding to anyone who spoke to me like that.

EllyGi · 02/10/2024 15:47

You are being unreasonable. We have been to go ape probably more than 10 times. We have had times my child was slow and missed on some routes, we had times when it was overcrowded and my child was stuck behind someone who was very slow for more than 15 minutes. I never thought of complaining, let alone asking for refund??? It's one of those activities that depends on your fitness level and the fitness level of those around you. Please settle for the discount voucher and stop harassing their poor customer service team ... 12 emails ... jeezzz

BellesAndGraces · 02/10/2024 15:45

Faldodiddledee · 02/10/2024 15:28

I agree with you completely, OP, and am surprised they are picking this fight. Their safety briefing was slow starting and then they shut the course early, at 6, not at 6.30, so that's unreasonable. You only had a lesser time in the trees 40 minutes and they were hurrying you along.

None of this makes for a pleasant fun disability-friendly trip.

Giving a 10% voucher is embarrassing, because the whole trip make you feel rushed and unwanted and too slow, and why was that necessary if they were closing at 6.30 as originally told? You aren't going to go back with a lot of faith in their procedures, are you?

They shouldn't advertise the last slot of the day if it's not suitable for people and they close early at 6 instead of 6.30.

I have no idea why everyone says just suck it up, I don't go to places to be hurried and made to feel bad for doing the thing they just said you could do and then changing their minds and hustling you out of the door!

I completely agree with this and am also not sure why you’re getting a hard time. You did not get what you paid for, therefore they should be offering an appropriate refund, not a voucher.

PlacidPenelope · 02/10/2024 15:39

Ablondiebutagoody · 02/10/2024 15:31

70 minutes was in there somewhere too. It's impossible to follow

And 40 minutes and 50 minutes, you are right it is impossible to follow plus it is not clear what the OP wants - a full refund or partial refund? It is not even clear in the first email to them: I’d appreciate a gesture of a refund

They said 'No' to a refund and offered a discount instead which in line with the OP's email to them is a valid option open to them.

If a refund is wanted be exact, be clear, give figures.

DramaAlpaca · 02/10/2024 15:38

I think Go Ape have been reasonable, actually. I think you should take the voucher offered and chalk the rest up to experience.

Cerealkiller4U · 02/10/2024 15:38

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:40

They’ve offered a 10% discount.
slot was 16:30. We arrived at 16:15 to check in.
hardnesses on by 16:40 but then had to wait for safety briefing so didn’t start level 1 until 5:10. Finished level 4 at 5:50 and were told level 3 now closed and were back in car by 6:02 despite the website saying allow 2 hours from start to finish. Which they didn’t give us.

Oh. Well then yes

i think you should get 50% off for sure.

Hazeby · 02/10/2024 15:37

take the voucher

Cerealkiller4U · 02/10/2024 15:37

Stripyseason · 02/10/2024 14:34

We were a half hour short of the full 2 hours which didn’t sit well with me, nor how it was handled.

Forget the 2 hours

did you have one hour on the tree top? Nothing else

did you have the one hour?

Dyke · 02/10/2024 15:36

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Ablondiebutagoody · 02/10/2024 15:36

NeighbourHitMyCar · 02/10/2024 15:33

People are misreading some of OPs early posts where she's listing timings. The safety meeting didn't take 20 mins, they had to wait for someone to run it for 20 mins where they were waiting around not doing anything.

So I understand timing loosely as
4.30 start slot. Waiting for someone to do safety briefing
4.50 safety briefing starts
5.10 harness up
5.20 in treetops
6.00 finish tree tops

OP I think their email response is actually apologetic and I don't think you're entitled to a full refund. But I would be pushing for a partial refund or better discounted voucher

But that isn't a 2 hour slot.......