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Given the world conflict situation are fireworks in bad taste?

113 replies

MatildaTheCat · 02/10/2024 14:00

I will preface this by saying that I’m no fan of fireworks anyway especially domestic ’ displays’ consisting of endless huge bangs which scare my dog into a state of terror.

Watching the news recently it occurs to me that seeing endless bombings of innocent civilians, many of whom are children, is essentially what firework displays are emulating. Bonfire night was originally meant to celebrate the events of the gunpowder plot to blow up Westminster. Terrorism in other words.

Is it not just a monumental waste of money and in incredible poor taste to have celebrations of this sort as people are literally being killed by actual explosives and not so very far from us?

Is there a better way of holding an autumnal celebration without using explosives?

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SunflowersAndSquash · 02/10/2024 16:23

People are strangely attached to fireworks 😅

DaisyChain505 · 02/10/2024 16:22

Can’t stand fireworks.

They bring so much unnecessary stress and misery to animals and certain people I don’t see how they aren’t banned or strictly silenced.

SoupDragon · 02/10/2024 16:18

Bit early for the annual firework whinge to start isn't it?

Fireworks are a million miles away from missiles and bombs.

Pinkandbluesocks · 02/10/2024 16:11

No. HTH.

Hollowgast · 02/10/2024 15:49

My leg hurts. Ban the Olympics!

atichoo · 02/10/2024 15:48

Given that silent ones are available now, I think the noisy ones should be banned. I know countless people for whom they have a horrible impact. Autistic people, people with PTSD, elderly people and that's before you get to pets.

If I had my way I'd ban all but silent ones for domestic use and commercial use and only allow them for specific nights (covering all faiths). Celebrate the pretty lights by all means but there is no need - particularly in residential areas - for the excessive explosive ones that are becoming more and more commonplace.

I don't care if that makes me a fun sponge. It's no fun for those people and creatures that they absolutely terrify.

SocksAndTheCity · 02/10/2024 15:47

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 02/10/2024 15:35

I doubt that the unfortunate citizens of Gaza or Beirut are preoccupied with 'bad taste'.

Indeed. Agonising over the idea that people trying to stay alive in war zones might be affronted by a few Roman Candles in Surbiton isn't just self obsessed, it's absolutely fucking barking.

MalcolmTuckersBollockingface · 02/10/2024 15:39

savannahowl · 02/10/2024 14:44

So mumsnet

Isn't it just!

Zahariel · 02/10/2024 15:39

people are being killed every single day in every possible way, on every single continent except Antarctica. Just because you have noticed because - shock - the Middle East has blown up again - is not a reason to not celebrate.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 02/10/2024 15:35

I doubt that the unfortunate citizens of Gaza or Beirut are preoccupied with 'bad taste'.

MurdoMunro · 02/10/2024 15:16

EmeraldRoulette · 02/10/2024 14:48

@MatildaTheCat your history is incorrect - quite shockingly off piste in fact!

we celebrate because Guy Fawkes’ plot failed. We are not celebrating terrorism! We celebrate that democracy was (ahem) saved because his plot was foiled.

re fireworks, I’d have organised displays only at specific licenced venues. Not for sale in the shops and not to be used in everyone’s garden etc. I’m not too fussed but it seems to upset a lot of people and I understand why.

Edited

Yes, I could get behind this and it feels like a reasonable way to deal with excessive nuisance. The displays put on by people who have thought it through are always way better as well.

Now that I’m giving it a thought by engaging with this discussion. It’s not really the displays that get to me, it’s the random lobbing around any time between now and mid November that set me off on the unresolved childhood trauma train. Mind, I’m not saying the use of fireworks must be planned around the likes of me who gets the explosion = shit yourself followed by fear and sadness effect. Just a perspective!

Metres · 02/10/2024 15:09

Any excuse to try and get fireworks banned, which isnt going to happen any time soon. Maybe OP has forgotten countries have been bombing the shit out of each other for hundreds of years so just because todays prissy dog and cat owners are looking for any excuse to ban them, this isn't it.

Looking forward to all the forthcoming facebook posts this month of sad looking dogs pissing themselves all over the parquet.

BMW6 · 02/10/2024 15:09

5th November is a celebration of the fact that a mass murdering terrorist plot was thwarted.

You're being pretty silly.

teatoast8 · 02/10/2024 15:06

Yabu

ONameyMcNamechangerson · 02/10/2024 15:05

Given the world starving situation, is keeping a dog in bad taste?

YABU to try to frame this as you have, when really it's about wanting to stop fireworks for your dog.

Singleandproud · 02/10/2024 15:05

Do I think they should be restricted to proper displays and noiseless used only over a very particular set of days ? - yes

Do I think they are in bad taste - No, wars have been going on constantly since day dot whether they are televised to us or not.

Ohfuckrucksack · 02/10/2024 15:02

No.

I'm not a big fan of fireworks but appreciate that they bring joy to many people and are part of specific celebrations of light.

I would prefer they stick to specific days though rather than a whole 'fireworks season' and I only agree with organised firework displays - not them being available commercially, but that's mostly a safety thing.

wickerlady · 02/10/2024 15:01

YABU

ButterAsADip · 02/10/2024 15:00

I went to a proms in the park thing when I was a kid and a woman next to us was flinching at the fireworks - she was from a warzone. There’s always been war. I dunno.

LoveSandbanks · 02/10/2024 14:59

I love fireworks, particularly the sound. I can feel it in my stomach and just love it. Yes I’ve had a dog that was terrified of them, but she was also scared of thunder and I couldn’t do anything about that either.

this time of year is bloody grim and it’s only broken up b Halloween, fireworks and, finally Christmas

Moonmelodies · 02/10/2024 14:58

Ban the rockets and bombs so that people can enjoy the fireworks in peace.

AnneLovesGilbert · 02/10/2024 14:53

Are you banning them for all celebrations or just English ones?

Mamabobogo · 02/10/2024 14:52

It’s tradition, it’s fine by me.

okayhescereal · 02/10/2024 14:50

Very unlikely to admit this IRL as wouldn't want to be labelled a total fun sponge but I have gone right off fireworks. I always loved them growing up/as a young adult, but as I've become more aware of human impact on wildlife, pollution levels etc, and then additionally given consideration to what loud bangs and explosions may remind certain people of (PTSD etc) it now makes me uncomfortable on a multitude of levels. Not just at this time of year, but new year and other occasions too. Feels like one of those things where it's enjoyable to many, but at a cost to many others including a great many pets and wild creatures who spend night after night in a state of high stress just so humans can enjoy some pretty colours and loud noises.

Do think those saying if you weren't going to do them because of the current conflicts then it would be basically saying ban them forever because there always seems to be a war somewhere. That wouldn't be my main motivation to move away from them tbh. Not sure it would unite the masses.

EmeraldRoulette · 02/10/2024 14:48

@MatildaTheCat your history is incorrect - quite shockingly off piste in fact!

we celebrate because Guy Fawkes’ plot failed. We are not celebrating terrorism! We celebrate that democracy was (ahem) saved because his plot was foiled.

re fireworks, I’d have organised displays only at specific licenced venues. Not for sale in the shops and not to be used in everyone’s garden etc. I’m not too fussed but it seems to upset a lot of people and I understand why.