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namechange11112222 · 02/10/2024 12:24

I have just watched this documentary and it broke my heart.
Hamas are revolting monsters, I can't call them animals because animals wouldn't even do that.

I do wonder how the younger, very outspoken generation would:

  1. Feel if that was a festival they went to and watched their friends get slaughtered
  2. Have said if there were social media at the time of WW2

Would we have been viewed in the same way Israel has been? The causalities of war were far greater.

I do not support the way in which Benjamin Netanyahu is going about this war at all but I 100% agree with Israel's right to defend itself.

They seem to be the only war I can think of where a country being attacked from all sides, from countries who do want mass extermination of Jewish people (do the younger generation still get taught about the holocaust anymore) who are repeatedly being told to stand down by the west.

To remind the younger generation of previous war casualties (for anyone with the argument that this war is completely out of proportion):

WW1

  • UK - 885,000 deaths
  • Germany - over 2 million deaths

WW2 - is this proportionate?

  • 1.5 - 3 million deaths in Germany
  • 210,000 dead - Nuclear bombs into Japan
  • 70,000 innocent dead - England

Iraq War

  • 179 English soldiers
  • 4,492 US soldiers
  • 186 - 210,000 Iraqi civilians

No civilian should ever be harmed in war, it is evil however it is inevitable.
How many Jewish people should be killed for Israel to be supported in defending themselves.
So the "the death toll is completely out of proportion" argument doesn't stand.

Yes, we can go back to the time before the bible and argue who has the right to the land. But this current war was started by Hamas and Hezbollah the following day.

However, please don't try to say they want mass extermination of Jewish people just because of the land.
People spitting on a naked woman's dead body when brought back into Gaza, footage filmed by Hamas.

Lets call this what it is pure racism, just like the Nazi's, who killed 6 million Jewish people.

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Anotherparkingthread · 02/10/2024 21:43

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HowardTJMoon · 02/10/2024 21:40

You're absolutely right. Hamas is hiding among the Palestinian civilians.

The IRA hid among the Irish civilians, too. Maybe we should have dealt with The Troubles by the wholesale bombing of Dublin because who cares how many civilians you kill as long as you get a terrorist or two, right? Plus if we'd told everyone who lived in Dublin to evacuate to Bray then that would have made it ok.

spuddy4 · 02/10/2024 21:37

Statistically the death rate in Gaza is the highest in the 21st century and I'm sure these figures will keep rising.

www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/daily-death-rate-gaza-higher-any-other-major-21st-century-conflict-oxfam

Lalaloveya · 02/10/2024 21:33

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candlewhickgreen · 02/10/2024 21:28

It's not happening as you've been given to believe. Gaza has been bombed indiscriminately, people are on the verge of starvation, tens of thousands of children are dead. People trying to get to aid trucks have been shot, hospital and refugee camps have been bombed.

Thousands of Palestinians have been detained with no charge in Israel, prisoners have been raped and Palestinians have been used as shields. Language has been used throughout the invasion calling for Palestine to be razed to the ground and for ethnic cleansing.

Now Israel are illegally invading other countries and Iran have retaliated. If their end game is peace then they're deluded.

kerstina · 02/10/2024 21:21

We had a terrorist attack in Manchester at a pop concert , little girls were killed. It does happen to us too. It was awful what Hamas did but I think restraint rather than genocide would have been the better option.

INeedAnotherName · 02/10/2024 21:21

I do wonder how the younger, very outspoken generation would:

  1. Feel if that was a festival they went to and watched their friends get slaughtered

I guess the Manchester arena bombing is no longer in your conscious thoughts. Nice.

Remind me again how many innocent Palestinians have been slaughtered?

namechange11112222 · 02/10/2024 21:16

candlewhickgreen · 02/10/2024 18:37

The Nova massacre was awful and so is the slaughter of over 40,000 people including thousands of innocent children.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but if you're saying that Israel has free reign to attack the ME then I don't agree with you.

I completely appreciate different views on this, and I do agree with you, Israel have no right to have free rein to attack the ME.
However, hamas attacks them, Hezbollah has been firing rockets into them since the 8th of October, and Iran have also sent almost 200 ballistic missiles into Israel. My point I guess is that this is the only war I have ever studied where by the country who is being attacked from many sides is being told they have to stand down.

Unfortunately, if they do back down Hamas will see that as a surrender. Hamas have already vowed to repeat October 7th “there will be a second, a third, a fourth” calling for the annihilation of Israel.

It is absolutely horrific to see so many innocent civilians die, it should never be something that should happen, it would be amazing if there were never another war and everyone was at peace.

From what I understand from what I have read (I am happy to be proved wrong if someone wants to send me something to the contrary), Israel have been sending warnings to the people of Gaza where they will be striking to give people a chance to move to an area of safety (although I know there are not many places which would be safe over there now 😔).
They are trying to target Hamas, but Hamas are using their people as human shields which is horrific, buy having tunnels under schools or residential buildings or worse still under hospitals.

I wish there could be peace over there, but I can only see that happening if the terrorists who want mass extermination are destroyed. 😔

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candlewhickgreen · 02/10/2024 18:37

The Nova massacre was awful and so is the slaughter of over 40,000 people including thousands of innocent children.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but if you're saying that Israel has free reign to attack the ME then I don't agree with you.

namechange11112222 · 02/10/2024 18:04

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