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namechange11112222 · 02/10/2024 12:24

I have just watched this documentary and it broke my heart.
Hamas are revolting monsters, I can't call them animals because animals wouldn't even do that.

I do wonder how the younger, very outspoken generation would:

  1. Feel if that was a festival they went to and watched their friends get slaughtered
  2. Have said if there were social media at the time of WW2

Would we have been viewed in the same way Israel has been? The causalities of war were far greater.

I do not support the way in which Benjamin Netanyahu is going about this war at all but I 100% agree with Israel's right to defend itself.

They seem to be the only war I can think of where a country being attacked from all sides, from countries who do want mass extermination of Jewish people (do the younger generation still get taught about the holocaust anymore) who are repeatedly being told to stand down by the west.

To remind the younger generation of previous war casualties (for anyone with the argument that this war is completely out of proportion):

WW1

  • UK - 885,000 deaths
  • Germany - over 2 million deaths

WW2 - is this proportionate?

  • 1.5 - 3 million deaths in Germany
  • 210,000 dead - Nuclear bombs into Japan
  • 70,000 innocent dead - England

Iraq War

  • 179 English soldiers
  • 4,492 US soldiers
  • 186 - 210,000 Iraqi civilians

No civilian should ever be harmed in war, it is evil however it is inevitable.
How many Jewish people should be killed for Israel to be supported in defending themselves.
So the "the death toll is completely out of proportion" argument doesn't stand.

Yes, we can go back to the time before the bible and argue who has the right to the land. But this current war was started by Hamas and Hezbollah the following day.

However, please don't try to say they want mass extermination of Jewish people just because of the land.
People spitting on a naked woman's dead body when brought back into Gaza, footage filmed by Hamas.

Lets call this what it is pure racism, just like the Nazi's, who killed 6 million Jewish people.

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onionbhajiplease · 03/10/2024 21:05

Hamas want the complete eradication of Jews and Israel. They've stated this, couldn't have made it clearer than they have.
This is a war between the developed and the developing world and there is no negotiation with Hamas because they want to remove Israel and Jews from the planet.

LumpBiscuit · 03/10/2024 21:02

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AmarenaCherry · 03/10/2024 21:02

DottieMoon · 03/10/2024 20:58

It’s terrifying that people actually buy in to this propaganda and believe hamas are the greater evil when you have Israel bombing and murdering civilians across four countries simultaneously

You think Hamas are the lesser evil? Seriously?

You would elect Hamas as your leaders if the only other option was Likud?

DottieMoon · 03/10/2024 20:58

DottieMoon · 03/10/2024 20:49

Agree

It’s terrifying that people actually buy in to this propaganda and believe hamas are the greater evil when you have Israel bombing and murdering civilians across four countries simultaneously

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Agree

candlewhickgreen · 03/10/2024 20:43

VideoKilledRadioStar · 03/10/2024 20:35

That reminds me - this was in my feed today:

“WATCH: The emotional reunion as Fawzia Amin Sido (21), a Yazidi woman, is finally reunited with her family. She was rescued by Israeli security forces from Gaza after being kidnapped by ISIS in Iraq at the age of 11 in 2014. From Iraq, she was taken to Gaza, where she was brutally held hostage for several years by a Hamas-ISIS terrorist.“

https://x.com/standwithus/status/1841795367764979888?s=46

I'm pleased she was released and am very happy for her family. What she suffered especially given the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, was horrific.

Littleonesick · 03/10/2024 20:39

Israel has killed almost 30 medics in Lebanon in the past 24 hours and even bombed a cemetery. They are totally out of control

Tellysavelas · 03/10/2024 20:38

Seriously, deleted for saying this is the Israeli way? 🙄 Give me a break. This is a regime putting propaganda ads during children’s programmes on YouTube FFS

VideoKilledRadioStar · 03/10/2024 20:35

candlewhickgreen · 03/10/2024 20:14

Why would Israel nuke its own country?

They might consider returning the hostages if Israel returned the thousands of Palestinians it has detained without charge in Israel. Prisoners that are being tortured and raped.

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That reminds me - this was in my feed today:

“WATCH: The emotional reunion as Fawzia Amin Sido (21), a Yazidi woman, is finally reunited with her family. She was rescued by Israeli security forces from Gaza after being kidnapped by ISIS in Iraq at the age of 11 in 2014. From Iraq, she was taken to Gaza, where she was brutally held hostage for several years by a Hamas-ISIS terrorist.“

https://x.com/standwithus/status/1841795367764979888?s=46

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https://x.com/standwithus/status/1841795367764979888?s=46

Aix · 03/10/2024 20:16

Lalaloveya · 03/10/2024 19:56

And even when you don't, it seems.

I've just read the thread and it is pretty clear that poster is trying rather hard to frame your comments as antisemitism, even though they were the only one mentioning religion.

Why would anyone be commenting on the Ukraine conflict on a thread regarding the conflict in the Middle East? Is it important to mention every single conflict and one's stance on it to avoid accusations and perceptions of bias?

Tellysavelas · 03/10/2024 20:15

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candlewhickgreen · 03/10/2024 20:14

AmarenaCherry · 03/10/2024 20:11

Why don’t Hamas care enough about their own people to return the hostages and agree to a ceasefire? Don’t you think if Israel really wanted a genocide they could have just nuked them already?

Why would Israel nuke its own country?

They might consider returning the hostages if Israel returned the thousands of Palestinians it has detained without charge in Israel. Prisoners that are being tortured and raped.

Tellysavelas · 03/10/2024 20:12

There is never any excuse for genocide, OP. Israel has lost any moral compass it may have had and people who voted for Netanyahu have blood on their hands. As well as stealing their land.

AmarenaCherry · 03/10/2024 20:11

Why don’t Hamas care enough about their own people to return the hostages and agree to a ceasefire? Don’t you think if Israel really wanted a genocide they could have just nuked them already?

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And even when you don't, it seems.

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KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 03/10/2024 19:54

INeedAnotherName · 03/10/2024 19:31

Why would I? One was done by terrorists (not by a democratic government since there haven't been free elections for a very long time), the other by a democratic government recently voted in by their country. They are not comparable unless you have a dark and twisted mind.

40,000 deaths of a small population by an invading country is murder on a huge scale. Not casualties of war, but indiscriminate slaughter.

Yet you felt the need to comment on the Manchester bombing which was carried out by terrorists. 🤔

Lalaloveya · 03/10/2024 19:54

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 03/10/2024 19:53

You don't seem to call the number of people dead in Gaza as reported by Hamas propaganda though. Funny that.

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You don't seem to be able to follow the thread of what's being said and are looking for things to be offended about, whether they've been said or not.

I'm not interested in this bizarre derailment.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 03/10/2024 19:53

Lalaloveya · 03/10/2024 19:22

I don't judge countries by the majority religion of their populations. To do so would be ridiculous and stupid. Israel continues to lie about what's happening in Gaza, so that's why I think the state apparatus in Israel lies. It's very simple.

You don't seem to call the number of people dead in Gaza as reported by Hamas propaganda though. Funny that.

Lalaloveya · 03/10/2024 19:52

AmarenaCherry · 03/10/2024 19:47

It is not ‘ridiculous and stupid’ to admit that Jews are targeted because of their Jewishness, which is an ethnicity independent of religious beliefs, and the very existence of a Jewish state is what causes the neighbours to rain fire on Israel continually.

Well that wasn't anywhere near what was said but don't let that stop you I guess? It didn't stop the previous poster 🤷‍♀️

AmarenaCherry · 03/10/2024 19:47

Lalaloveya · 03/10/2024 19:22

I don't judge countries by the majority religion of their populations. To do so would be ridiculous and stupid. Israel continues to lie about what's happening in Gaza, so that's why I think the state apparatus in Israel lies. It's very simple.

It is not ‘ridiculous and stupid’ to admit that Jews are targeted because of their Jewishness, which is an ethnicity independent of religious beliefs, and the very existence of a Jewish state is what causes the neighbours to rain fire on Israel continually.

INeedAnotherName · 03/10/2024 19:31

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 03/10/2024 18:54

40,000 according to a previous poster. Which is of course far too many.

Any comment on the Jews slaughtered and raped on October 7th?

Why would I? One was done by terrorists (not by a democratic government since there haven't been free elections for a very long time), the other by a democratic government recently voted in by their country. They are not comparable unless you have a dark and twisted mind.

40,000 deaths of a small population by an invading country is murder on a huge scale. Not casualties of war, but indiscriminate slaughter.

Lalaloveya · 03/10/2024 19:22

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 03/10/2024 19:09

Any other country do that (Hamas run Palestine for instance) or just a Jewish country?

I don't judge countries by the majority religion of their populations. To do so would be ridiculous and stupid. Israel continues to lie about what's happening in Gaza, so that's why I think the state apparatus in Israel lies. It's very simple.

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