We will dance again

Another March on October 7th to mock the victims - I’m absolutely horrified.

It really really is disgusting. I’m so ashamed to see posters and views like that in my country of origin .

Yes, can some of the pro Palestine people on here defend this? Explain the logic?

Disgusting. As an irish person that's particularly embarrassing. I can't even talk to my irish family and friends about this topic because I know what their stance would probably be. They dont understand because they dont know any jews and only see it through the lens of the irish situation, even though it's really nothing like it. I don't live there anymore and I stand with the Jewish and Israeli people that I know. I've seen first hand how they were affected by October 7. I see now that anti semitism is ingrained in irish society, just look at the recent behaviour of our president, it was unhinged. Blatant anti semitism on display.

I cannot understand any reason why a Pro Palestinian March would be arranged on October 7th unless it’s to

1. Provoke and mock those who are grieving
2. Suggest support for the perpetrators of October 7th

That is one of the most vile things I have seen

Oh God - that’s horrible. I’m so sorry. I’m from an Irish background and am often in Ireland. I am completely horrified at the anti semitism on display there. I’d always ( naively) thought Ireland was a country with a good record on relationships with other cultures and races. It’s as though some people are using this conflict to pour our all their hatred and bitterness on one group. Like the old biblical scapegoat- heaping all blame on one set of people . It’s a terrible thing to see.

@Firealarm1414 And this one is particularly sickening

https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1842051775706144799

There's many polls to back up my claim. Even those taken before the war

Totally agree, this is why Hamas, Hezbollah etc will never be eradicated

Yes, they are. Just one example, which coincidentally ends up where a memorial for the victims of October 7th is being held. The use of the word 'flood' is interesting. And thats not even the college campuses, of which many are apparently doing the same thing. Outright terrorist supporters. Its indefensible.

So awful, I’m yet to watch

Surely they're not that crass

I see there are marches planned on October 7 all across the US, and probably the UK too - to commiserate with Palestine , not Israel. Absolutely disgusting. No shame. Maybe on that one day let people remember the dead and the people taken hostage, some of whom are still taken? Its like marching in solidarity with al qaeda/bin laden on 9/11. although at this point anything is possible so that could well happen. Have you thought about making 7/7 a day for hamas too? That could work

She’s right - support for tbe two state solution declined in popularity for years and was crushed on October 7th. Here’s an American analysis:

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/without-enforcement-talk-two-states-hollow

I've just watched this film. Awful. One of the things that stood out from the hamas footage for me is that they weren't doing it for Palestine, never once did they say that. They were doing it for their god. They wanted to be martyrs. All they cared about was killing jews ('dogs' as they called them). They are terrorists, akin to isis, not "freedom fighters".

@Littleonesick please can YOU share evidence that most Israelis don’t want a 2 state solution?

But Arafat wanted full sovereignty of East Jerusalem

Can you really not see why?

It was the Camp David Summit of 2000, brokered by Bill Clinton, where Yasser Arafat rejected a deal.

Israel offered approximately 92% of the West Bank, and full control of Gaza, along with a proposal for a divided Jerusalem.

But Arafat wanted full sovereignty of East Jerusalem. He also wanted a “right of return” for millions of Palestinians to be able to move to Israel and reclaim land used in 1948 for the state’s creation. This would have seen the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state and could never have been accepted.

When it comes to peace talks, the Palestinians were described as never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity. That was the best deal they’d ever been offered.

There’s more detail here - from an Israeli source:

honestreporting.com/in-depth-arafat-rejected-peace-in-2000/

It's not for Israel to decide as Palestine is a separate state. Perhaps they should go back to the agreed borders and end the occupation.

You don't just get to decide unilaterally where a nation live and drive them out of their home.

Yes the Israeli government has openly discussed plans to drive the Palestinians to Egypt. They've also been open about wanting to raze Gaza and destroy the Palestinians.

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Where would be the similarity?

Most people can see the two state solution is dead.

That leaves either the total annihilation of Israel.

Or a one state solution of Jews and Palestinians living together under some kind of international protectorate. But that isn’t something either side would ever agree to.

Or, the religious right in Israel would like a one state solution, with Gaza and the West Bank becoming part of Israel, and the Palestinians sent back to Egypt and other Arab countries where they have roots. That case is argued for here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uU1-FuBW7Ho

I don’t think Netanyahu himself has ever argued for this position. But politicians have who he’s formed alliances with, notably Bezalel Smotrich.

It is not true that most citizens do. It really isn't.

Sorry I don’t understand what this means.

The current administration is used here to refer to the government, it does not mean most citizens.