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I know there unreasonable but £30 is insane!

285 replies

FranksBank · 02/10/2024 12:05

To spend on someone you don't really like. For Sectet Santa

I am very PT and have been asked to arrange this, with them saying 'we knew you wouldn't want to join in because you don't celebrate it' Confused I do actually celebrate it but I'll gladly let them think I don't now!

Anyway, the budget the person asking me to arrange it has set is £30. They want me to send out the email asking people to opt in, and mention it's a £30 budget.

AIBU to actually ask what madness has embedded within her to think this is a fair amount?

I said 'Is that not very high?' And she said 'Sent it out after Halloween! They'll have time to save, won't they?' And she seemed very smug to announce this obvious information

It's a school. Nobody is rich.

OP posts:
tuvamoodyson · 02/10/2024 14:05

okayhescereal · 02/10/2024 12:40

right?! our family max is £20 pp!!!

So is ours!

BlueyTuesdays · 02/10/2024 14:01

Why did Dawn say ‘we knew you wouldn't want to join in because you don't celebrate it' when you do celebrate Christmas?

Mnetcurious · 02/10/2024 14:00

If she hasn’t specified that you should not say that she suggested £30 then just go ahead and write it in the email - she hasn’t said you shouldn’t!

Alternatively if you have to run the email past her before sending then when the questions inevitably come back to you about it just respond “the budget was Dawn’s suggestion which I did query, best to direct any questions to her about the amount”.

autienotnaughty · 02/10/2024 13:57

Is the assumption you don't celebrate based on your race?!!

Some good ideas I'd go with-

Dawn has ask me to ........

And

Maximum budget is £30 but do spend under if you prefer.

Tengreenbottles2 · 02/10/2024 13:57

FranksBank · 02/10/2024 12:44

I really should have clarified that 'Dawn' is the Office Manager/Accounts person

I am the Head's PA but have 'other duties needed within the office' because he also has an EA

So she is above me and can tell me not to say she said to put £30.

3 things here.

  1. If she can tell you not to say that she told you to put £30 budget, you are equally entitled to make sure people know it wasn't your idea. Eg. you can say "I have been told that the budget is £30".
  2. If she actually does tell you she doesn't want her name associated with the £30 budget, what does that tell you?! It tells you she knows full well it will be an unpopular decision, in which case why is she insisting on it for something that's supposed to be fun?
  3. As someone else has said, she can't tell you not to if you get the email out before she manages to tell you not to.
Hyperbowl · 02/10/2024 13:54

If she hasn’t specifically told you not to mention her by name I would still go ahead and do it. Either that or say that or if she’s unwilling to put her name to it then you don’t see why you should. Lead by example sort of thing. They’re not going to discipline you for it realistically that would be madness.

ThanksHunPenneys · 02/10/2024 13:54

LookItsMeAgain · 02/10/2024 13:40

It is fair - everyone can spend up to the quoted amount. Whether you do or not is entirely your choice, so you can choose to spend the full amount or you can choose to spend the £5 on chocolates - your choice. Just as it would be for a colleague. It is fair because it's a spending limit, not a demand.

This is why setting the limit at a fiver or so is a lot fairer, less room for getting it wrong.

betterangels · 02/10/2024 13:53

£30 for secret santa is ridiculous. I wouldn't do that.

viques · 02/10/2024 13:53

Much more fun to put a very low cost on secret Santa , makes people think! Make it a silly amount like £4.44. And say receipts ma be asked for.

SabreIsMyFave · 02/10/2024 13:52

dutysuite · 02/10/2024 13:20

I refuse to take part in Secret Santa, one year we spent Christmas with in-laws, there was about 35 of us, I had four secret Santa’s to buy as my children were too young to go out and get them, I spent a lot of
effort thinking about what type of gift each individual would like, we had a £20 budget.
When I received my gift it was a travel sized bubble bath in crushed packaging which looked old. I was secretly quite hurt especially as my in laws have always been unwelcoming towards me. Never again.

This puts me in mind slightly of something that happened about 15 years ago, when DD was in her early teens. She joined an online group of fans who were into a particular 'thing' that she was into. There were 11 of them - including her -from all over the world. Only 1 other was in the UK. (The other 9 were in America, Canada, Europe, and Australia.)

They all made an arrangement to send gifts to the other 10 (for Christmas.) Just something small - like around a fiver's worth. Maybe a small piece of jewellery ... Or some kind of Christmas novelty gift.

DD bought 10 gifts costing about £5-7 each, and also made a bunch of friendship bracelets, (or rather I bought it all, as she had no money at 13-14 y.o.) So that was around £60. Plus a tenner for the friendship bracelet kit.

THEN it cost around another £35 for the postage for them all (because - as I said - 9 of them were overseas!) So around £100 altogether, 15 years ago! I was a bit pissed off about it, and said it's too much for people she has never met. She said 'but it's not much, only about £5-7 each!' I couldn't get it through to her that this was multiplied by 10, and then the postage on top was almost as much as the bloody gifts!

Then shocker! she got gifts back from just TWO of the girls. TWO! And they were, a bookmark, and a keyring. One of them was from the other girl in the UK, and the other one was from a girl in France. I was fuming that we had spent all this money, and lots of time carefully selecting the 10 gifts, and making the 10 friendship bracelets, and then wrapping them, and labelling them, and taking them to the post office. We queued for ages and spend around £100 altogether, and she got just 2 out of 10 back! Just a handmade cardboard bookmark, and a 99p keyring!

Never again. She was upset and angry herself, and never sent anything to any of them again. The 8 who sent fuck-all said they 'forgot' or 'didn't have time.' Bollocks. They spent 30 hours a week on the internet!

SabreIsMyFave · 02/10/2024 13:50

PassingStranger · 02/10/2024 13:24

Knock it on the head. No adult needs to receive a Christmas Present.

There's always one. 🙄

That's going from one extreme to the other! There's NO reason to not buy adults Christmas presents! I can only surmise no-one ever buys you anything...?

Crikeyalmighty · 02/10/2024 13:48

£30 may well be 70% of a single persons food budget - ludicrous - the point is it's fun daft things - £10 is plenty

MouseofCommons · 02/10/2024 13:48

I refuse to participate in SS. I replied with an email pointing out we were all employed adults who probably didn't need more stuff.
It fizzled out a couple of years later and now we all chip in for the food bank.

TheBluntTurtle · 02/10/2024 13:46

I absolutely hate secret Santa! Especially in a workplace where not everyone knows each other well. It just leads to waste IME. £30 is a ludicrous amount - imagine if you spent time getting someone a nice gift to be given the joke present - it would be so disappointing. It needs to be a low amount - if someone goes above that then that’s their choice but you can’t spend £30 of someone’s money

saraclara · 02/10/2024 13:45

Anyway, the budget the person asking me to arrange it has set is £30. They want me to send out the email asking people to opt in, and mention it's a £30 budget.

It doesn't say that £30 is the upper limit. It says it's the budget.
Fortunately it's opt in, so hardly anyone will join in.

I would say to Jane that if she doesn't want people to know that it was her decision, then she shouldn't be asking you to send this in your name. If it doesn't need to go out until November, it's not like she hasn't got five minutes between now and then to send it herself.

MrTwatchester · 02/10/2024 13:43

Does anyone in the world actually enjoy Secret Santa?

PinkArt · 02/10/2024 13:42

If you absolutely don't feel you can say that Dawn has set the budget at £30 - although I'd strongly suggest that you do just that - then there are other ways you can make it clear that it's not on you. 'I've been asked to let you know the budget is £30'.
It's very odd to suggest that you might not want to take part but that you would still be happy to organise it. If they think you don't celebrate Christmas for religious or cultural reasons then surely asking you to facilitate would be equally inappropriate!

Cocothecoconut · 02/10/2024 13:42

£30 for secret Santa is crazy

LookItsMeAgain · 02/10/2024 13:40

SiobhanSharpe · 02/10/2024 12:48

But the point of a secret santa is fairness, that everybody spends the same amount, isn't it?
Otherwise you run the risk of complaints like ' I spent 25 quid and I got a fiver's worth of cheap chocolates...'

It is fair - everyone can spend up to the quoted amount. Whether you do or not is entirely your choice, so you can choose to spend the full amount or you can choose to spend the £5 on chocolates - your choice. Just as it would be for a colleague. It is fair because it's a spending limit, not a demand.

Button28384738 · 02/10/2024 13:37

Yeah ridiculous! Why do you have to send out the email? Can't she do it herself?
And the cheek of assuming you won't want to be involved!

Violetparis · 02/10/2024 13:37

Just say you won't be sending the email as the budget in your opinion is way too high. Sounds like they want you to get the flack for it.

TheFluffyTwo · 02/10/2024 13:35

FranksBank · 02/10/2024 12:44

I really should have clarified that 'Dawn' is the Office Manager/Accounts person

I am the Head's PA but have 'other duties needed within the office' because he also has an EA

So she is above me and can tell me not to say she said to put £30.

This is why we do not send a draft to Dawn before we send to everyone. We say, "no problem, Dawn, I'll do that after Halloween, as you suggest," and then we say not another word about it until after Halloween when we hit 'Send to All' including the wording about Dawn's suggested budget.

Good luck!

Allthehorsesintheworld · 02/10/2024 13:35

FranksBank · 02/10/2024 12:09

@Chowtime £30 is 50% of some people's food shop budget. A lot of people are really skint right now. I can afford it but don't want to spend £30! On a colleague

They already go for a meal with all school staff over 2 separate dates - You pick the one you can attend

When you can plainly see it’s spending 50% of a weekly food shop for some people then it’s obvious it’s too much.
Id point that out to the colleague and suggest £10 is more realistic. And if she comes back with the ‘time to save up’ point out they’ll be saving for their own kids presents.

Prisonpillow · 02/10/2024 13:33

For balance - I’d be quite happy with a £30 budget because I’d be able to get something relatively easy instead of losing two hours researching what is the least shit thing you can get for £5/£10 and I value the time more.

Spidey66 · 02/10/2024 13:32

bifurCAT · 02/10/2024 12:17

I hate how the first reply is ALWAYS someone correcting spelling or nitpicking terminology, etc of the OP!

🤣

The OP was correcting herself!

IMHO £30 is too dear and £10 is fine. Me and my siblings do secret Santa and our budget is £30!