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To ask if you are still avoiding covid?

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Sleepyinnewyork · 01/10/2024 23:16

I know it’s everywhere but are people still avoiding seeing friends / family if they know it’s definitely covid? Or is no one worried anymore?
I feel like I wouldn’t want to put myself in the line of fire knowingly as it’s made me bed bound twice - not seriously ill or anything but like a flu - but I don’t know if I’m over the top about it given that it’s now just everywhere in the community anyway.

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TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 15:08

AgainandagainandagainSS · 02/10/2024 15:05

Me too. Staying home with a sniffle won't pay my bills.

For me covid is a high temp over 38 degrees and no energy to walk to the loo (which is just an en-suite), if it was a “sniffle” I’d be in work. My sick record is low and I can even work from home, but this has floored me.

OrdsallChord · 02/10/2024 15:07

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 15:06

I was replying to the full thread you’d created.

I haven't created a full thread.

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 15:06

OrdsallChord · 02/10/2024 15:05

It wasn't clear, no, as you replied to my post about there being no such thing as real flu and the likelihood of transmission. But thank you for clarifying. I also hope it will be useful information.

I was replying to the full thread you’d created.

AgainandagainandagainSS · 02/10/2024 15:05

itwasnevermine · 02/10/2024 13:44

@Growlybear83 I'm sorry but when it costs so much to stay home, I'm going in to work.

Me too. Staying home with a sniffle won't pay my bills.

OrdsallChord · 02/10/2024 15:05

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 15:01

Erm… it’s quite clear surely? The previous poster in the thread commented flu tests aren’t as available as covid and I was stating that’s not the case as that was false information. Covid and flu are very similar protocols in a hospital setting. Just felt that was useful information for people rather than looking for an argument.

It wasn't clear, no, as you replied to my post about there being no such thing as real flu and the likelihood of transmission. But thank you for clarifying. I also hope it will be useful information.

Daisy03 · 02/10/2024 15:04

Yep, having chemotherapy at the moment so will try to take precautions to avoid wherever possible

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 15:04

bostonchamps · 02/10/2024 15:00

@TeenLifeMum careful there, your privilege is showing. £12 is a big amount to some (a lot of) people, especially those who might need to take unpaid days off if they're sick.

Oh fuck off - I’ve not even bought one, just saying they are available as a previous poster claimed they weren’t as available as covid. I think they’re the same price. You’ve absolutely no clue about my financial position to claim I have privilege! I also know you can spend £100k on a car - doesn’t mean I can afford one.

God, people really want a fight don’t they?! I currently have a nasty virus presenting like covid but haven’t tested. I don’t see the point of wasting money. I know I’m ill and I know I’m contagious.

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 15:01

OrdsallChord · 02/10/2024 14:52

What's your point?

Erm… it’s quite clear surely? The previous poster in the thread commented flu tests aren’t as available as covid and I was stating that’s not the case as that was false information. Covid and flu are very similar protocols in a hospital setting. Just felt that was useful information for people rather than looking for an argument.

bostonchamps · 02/10/2024 15:00

@TeenLifeMum careful there, your privilege is showing. £12 is a big amount to some (a lot of) people, especially those who might need to take unpaid days off if they're sick.

OrdsallChord · 02/10/2024 14:52

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 14:45

Flu tests are £12 on the shelf next to Covid ones in Tesco.

What's your point?

colouringindoors · 02/10/2024 14:52

Well I've been ill with Covid for 4+ weeks now. Mostly confined to bed/sofa. Third infection and I've had all the vaccs. Praying this isn't the start of Long Covid. I will absolutely be avoiding it in the future. I'm self employed so financially this is a mightmare, but I'm way too ill to work still.

placemats · 02/10/2024 14:46

I was shocked to read this article yesterday. Clearly negligent. I have avoided Covid so far. My sister got a mild stroke a week after getting Covid and despite making a good recovery, I think her personality has changed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m044xlmxwo

Holmesley Care Home, pictured from a distance. The home is a multi-storey building with a red brick exterior surrounded by trees.

Care home nurse thought Covid was a conspiracy, inquest hears

The nursing home’s deputy manager said it was "sad for the residents".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m044xlmxwo

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 14:45

OrdsallChord · 02/10/2024 14:07

There's no such thing as proper flu. There's just flu, which you can have with severe, minor or no symptoms. Can be fatal, can leave you entirely unaware.

While I'm not a big fan of the covid and flu comparisons, not least because of the way people wrongly use flu to describe severity of symptoms, in that way they are the same. Any one of us could've transmitted flu to any number of vulnerable people, and been completely oblivious.

Flu tests are £12 on the shelf next to Covid ones in Tesco.

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2024 14:42

I currently have a bad virus which feels similar to when I had covid in 2022. It’s a cold plus flu symptoms. I was on a work from home day yesterday and by 1.30pm I couldn’t work. My temp was over 38 and I couldn’t read my screen. I’ve been bed bound with no appetite. I feel totally floored by it. This might not be covid but whatever it is, I won’t be spreading the germs in the same way I’d be cautious with a sickness bug. Totally understand some people don’t get sick pay but I genuinely cannot work, I can barely walk to the en-suite for the loo and even with the ability to wfh, I’ve got no ability to focus enough to be effective.

NoTouch · 02/10/2024 14:35

My mum died in traumatic circumstances after catching covid, knowing someone it killed gives you a different perspective, and having never had it myself until recently I was concerned if I would also be someone who had severe or longer term symptoms so I did test when ill as I wanted to know when I eventually had it. I tested positive for the first time a few weeks ago, I was laid up in bed for a full week and felt shit for 2-3 weeks after.

Testing helped confirm I had it and now I am less worried about it for my own health but would still take sensible precautions to not only avoid anyone who was ill as I don't want to catch any virus that might put me in bed for a week again if I can easily avoid it, but to also practice good hygiene if I am unwell with any virus to reduce the risk of others catching it.

I still have several family member who have never knowingly had it. I wouldn't minimise the genuine feelings of anyone who is still concerned about catching it or want to take sensible precautions.

CharlotteBog · 02/10/2024 14:34

Sleepyinnewyork · 01/10/2024 23:16

I know it’s everywhere but are people still avoiding seeing friends / family if they know it’s definitely covid? Or is no one worried anymore?
I feel like I wouldn’t want to put myself in the line of fire knowingly as it’s made me bed bound twice - not seriously ill or anything but like a flu - but I don’t know if I’m over the top about it given that it’s now just everywhere in the community anyway.

You should do what you feel comfortable doing and are able to do.
It doesn't matter if others regard you as over the top, unless it impacts them directly.

You'll get people sneering at you and you'll get others who appreciate you isolating yourself.

Jaxhog · 02/10/2024 14:22

Yes. Not for myself so much, but if I've tested positive (and yes, I check) then I don't visit vulnerable people. I also expect friends and family to do the same. They mostly do.

I only wish more people would care too. I was on a coach trip with my 95 yr old mum last year, and several people began to cough and sneeze. Did anyone wear a mask? Not a d**m one of them. My Mum wore one and still went down with Covid immediately afterwards, which at 95 is not fun.

itwasnevermine · 02/10/2024 14:18

Growlybear83 · 02/10/2024 14:07

@itwasnevermine But if you've just got a mild cold and have tested to make sure it's not Covid and still go into work, that's a little different to potentially infecting people with Covid. I understand about losing money if you're off sick - I'm self employed and I get absolutely nothing if I'm ill and can't work. If I'm not well enough to attend my evening meetings, then I don't get paid, or I have to pay someone else to go on my behalf, so whatever happens, I'm still out of pocket. But I would still rather not knowingly infect people with a virus such as Covid if I had tested positive , and would do as I've done for the last 50 years when I've run out of money and use my credit card if I couldn't make ends meet.

My comments were more aimed at your attitude in your previous post than anything.

I have only tested once in the last two years. I'm sorry but that's just how it goes now.

Longleggedblond · 02/10/2024 14:16

Not everyone is lucky to get it mildly. OH caught it off our son in January this year, became confused and lot use of his legs. His oxygen levels were low and temperature 39. long story short he had covid pneumonia. was treated in hospital and came home same evening with high dose antibiotics. All our tests were negative. Hospital one down the throat picked it up. He's entitled to ylthe vaccine as he's 69. I'm not so having privately to try and protect him. I had it too and got pleurisy. He still can't remember having a brain scan or chest x Ray. pleased one mock people who take precautions as not everyone has it mildly.

SoupDragon · 02/10/2024 14:12

If I'm ill, I don't go out. Just like I did before Covid.

I don't test any more (although I would if visiting someone vulnerable)

mylittleworld563 · 02/10/2024 14:10

It doesn't bother me really. I don't actively avoid people or places and if I think I have it I do my best to avoid people. That said my work doesn't care if we have it or not.

Growlybear83 · 02/10/2024 14:07

@itwasnevermine But if you've just got a mild cold and have tested to make sure it's not Covid and still go into work, that's a little different to potentially infecting people with Covid. I understand about losing money if you're off sick - I'm self employed and I get absolutely nothing if I'm ill and can't work. If I'm not well enough to attend my evening meetings, then I don't get paid, or I have to pay someone else to go on my behalf, so whatever happens, I'm still out of pocket. But I would still rather not knowingly infect people with a virus such as Covid if I had tested positive , and would do as I've done for the last 50 years when I've run out of money and use my credit card if I couldn't make ends meet.

My comments were more aimed at your attitude in your previous post than anything.

OrdsallChord · 02/10/2024 14:07

Growlybear83 · 02/10/2024 11:55

Because people are still dying from it or becoming extremely ill. Just because you haven't been badly affected doesn't mean that other people react the same. I couldn't live with myself if I had COVID and knowingly mixed with other people without warning them and then spread it to people who may go on to die or be seriously ill. If you have COVID symptoms, it takes a few minutes to do a test, which are still readily and cheaply available. I think some people are incredibly selfish.

COVID is also different from flu insofar as flu tests aren't available easily, and if you've got proper flu then you can't go out and spread it because you're too ill, unlike COVID where you might have mild symptoms but can still make someone else extremely unwell.

There's no such thing as proper flu. There's just flu, which you can have with severe, minor or no symptoms. Can be fatal, can leave you entirely unaware.

While I'm not a big fan of the covid and flu comparisons, not least because of the way people wrongly use flu to describe severity of symptoms, in that way they are the same. Any one of us could've transmitted flu to any number of vulnerable people, and been completely oblivious.

Fluffyc1ouds · 02/10/2024 14:05

I avoid it in the same way that I'd steer clear of someone who has a cold or stomach bug. I cared a lot less but I've had covid twice this year and it absolutely knocked me sideways each time. I felt so horrendous that I'll avoid it if I can, as I really don't fancy it again. Thankfully at work we have good sick pay and people are told to work from home if they're unwell. I appreciate that a lot of people aren't in that position though.

Echobelly · 02/10/2024 13:59

Fairly selfishly I might take precautions like masking on the tube (yes, I know it's not 100% effective) if I have something coming up I really wouldn't want to miss by getting ill if I got Covid badly. And I'll test if I'm feeling ill and going to something crowded or where there are people I know are vulnerable or cautious. In terms of protecting myself from experiencing it generally? No, I'm not worried about it in itself.

I've had in at least 4 times, 3 of those were barely symptomatic (had a slightly sore tickly throat for 3-4 days) and I only tested because someone close had it, the last was like a mediumly but not very bad cold and I know I have been lucky.

At the end of the day, societally we have mitigations that are reasonable and will hopefully only improve and we have to live with that. I saw post online saying 'Covid is rising but the economy is more important than people's lives' and I was a bit 'Oh come on' The economy is also important to people's lives as well and we can't lock down or something for a virus that we can reasonably manage the worst of now on a day to day basis.

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