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How and when did you move your child(ren) into their own room? Is this too soon?

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user242526 · 01/10/2024 22:31

Hi,

DD is 10 months old and I am slowly starting to consider moving her into her own room.

She has started sleeping through the night (does have a few bad nights here and there due to teething and being unwell). However, we seem to kind of 'disturb' each other. When I get into bed she gets disturbed, if I get up to go to the toilet she gets disturbed etc. Likewise, if she coughs etc I wake up and struggle to go back into a deeper sleep as I'm always on 'edge' as I feel as though I constantly need to keep an eye on her to make sure she's okay.

I'd like to find out about other people's experiences of this? How did it go? What do you do if your child is sick? When is too soon or on the other hand when is it too late? Any tips?

Thanks

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32nddalmation · 04/10/2024 10:59

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 19:43

How do they know the parents who room-shared weren’t more vigilant anyway e.g. with placing baby on its back, foot to foot of cot, no loose bedding etc.— I.e. the real factors for SIDS?

As far as I can see this study only case controlled to match factors like smoking and locality, not other behavioural factors. It’s really flawed.

I mean, any study in any field you can think of some uncontrolled factors, but that is a massive effect size across 4 studies, covering different countries, with no principled reason to assume that there'd be significant behavioural differences in the uncontrolled factors (you could argue that uncontrolled factors would go either way here... richer people more likely to have room for a nursery and usually following public health guidelines is higher and mortality/morbidity are lower for richer people). And obviously there will never be an RCT dictating where parents put their babies to sleep, so converging evidence from a number of less rigorous studies is always what the evidence base will be. You can argue that uncontrolled factors cross-culturally have created that huge effect size, but it's not reasonable to call it 'really flawed'... I personally think this looks like stronger evidence than much of what is seen in behavioural healthcare and would definitely follow the advice.

PurBal · 03/10/2024 21:43

4 weeks, his room but I slept in with him. 4 months, I moved out. He didn't sleep through until 8 months. But he's 3 now and thriving. And he had a little brother arrive who shares his room. They love it.

Makingchocolatecake · 03/10/2024 21:34

Mine went in hers at 7m. I was fed up of sleeping like a sardine between dh and the cot and our snoring was waking her up sometimes too. She occasionally sleeps in our bed.

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 19:43

32nddalmation · 03/10/2024 19:21

lots of references in here - https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/138/5/e20162940/60296/SIDS-and-Other-Sleep-Related-Infant-Deaths

"The AAP recommends room-sharing, because this arrangement decreases the risk of SIDS by as much as 50%89,91,172,173 and is safer than bed-sharing89,91,172,173 or solitary sleeping (when the infant is in a separate room).89,172"

How do they know the parents who room-shared weren’t more vigilant anyway e.g. with placing baby on its back, foot to foot of cot, no loose bedding etc.— I.e. the real factors for SIDS?

As far as I can see this study only case controlled to match factors like smoking and locality, not other behavioural factors. It’s really flawed.

32nddalmation · 03/10/2024 19:21

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 19:04

But even if we hadn’t had sex for 6 months, I’d consider it worth it to significantly reduce the risk of my baby dying of SIDS.

What’s the evidence that — all other things being equal — having your baby in your room ‘significantly’ reduces the risk of your baby dying of SIDS? Sorry, but I don’t think such an experiment has been done because you can’t separate this from other factors. Happy to be proved wrong though.

lots of references in here - https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/138/5/e20162940/60296/SIDS-and-Other-Sleep-Related-Infant-Deaths

"The AAP recommends room-sharing, because this arrangement decreases the risk of SIDS by as much as 50%89,91,172,173 and is safer than bed-sharing89,91,172,173 or solitary sleeping (when the infant is in a separate room).89,172"

Aimtodobetter · 03/10/2024 19:05

The guidance says wait till 6 months for them to sleep alone, but I actually moved mine at 4 months and then slept in with him for a month (i.e. slept with him for 5 months) so at least I could have my own room to chill in before going to sleep. He was very healthy and sleeping through the night once he was in his really big cot (much nicer for him than the small ones that fit next to your bed) so by 5 months I slowly felt comfortable enough with all the cameras, sleep trackers etc to have him in his own room, and it was easier to check on the camera of him to see what was going on when he made a noise without disturbing him when I was in my own room. If he'd had a nasty illness I would have slept back in with him but he's been super robust - and I do sleep in the same room as him on holiday but he has more disturbed sleep because of it.

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 19:04

But even if we hadn’t had sex for 6 months, I’d consider it worth it to significantly reduce the risk of my baby dying of SIDS.

What’s the evidence that — all other things being equal — having your baby in your room ‘significantly’ reduces the risk of your baby dying of SIDS? Sorry, but I don’t think such an experiment has been done because you can’t separate this from other factors. Happy to be proved wrong though.

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 03/10/2024 18:56

My DS (eldest) moved into his own room from 6 months because I had lovingly decorated the nursery while I was pregnant and I was excited to use it as soon as possible. I was really looking forward to the 6 months being up!

DD was 9 months because we waited until we had moved into a bigger place.

WiserOlderElf · 03/10/2024 18:53

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 03/10/2024 18:41

Are you saying you didn't have sex for 6 months?!

No. I’m saying we didn’t have sex in our bedroom while the baby was asleep in there for 6 months. But even if we hadn’t had sex for 6 months, I’d consider it worth it to significantly reduce the risk of my baby dying of SIDS.
Actually though, we didnt have sex for 6 months after DC3 was born due to the hideous birth injury that left my baby disabled and me barely able to walk for 3 months. 6 years on we have a healthy sex life, are very much in love and haven’t been damaged by our dry period 😊.

MellersSmellers · 03/10/2024 18:48

user242526 · 01/10/2024 22:38

Thank you everyone. Another (stupid) question, will me putting her in her own room at 10 months make her feel abandoned?

I don't see why it should. You'll be going in any time she wakes to settle her, and when she wakes up in the morning. My gut feeling is that you're more likely to risk that if you leave it longer.
But hey, my babies were in their own rooms as soon as night feeds were done, at about 8 weeks so maybe I'm just a tough mummy.

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 03/10/2024 18:41

WiserOlderElf · 03/10/2024 17:46

I just figured for the first 6 months of their life it was worth it to help prevent SIDS. We got back on track afterwards.

Are you saying you didn't have sex for 6 months?!

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 18:40

FloydGerhardt · 03/10/2024 18:32

The only SIDS advice when I had my children was the ‘back to sleep’ campaign. There was nothing about keeping your child in your room.

Exactly. Without wishing to sound morbid, I can’t see how you’d know that your baby had stopped breathing if it was asleep in the same room as you any more than if it was in the room next door. You’d be asleep.

FloydGerhardt · 03/10/2024 18:32

WiserOlderElf · 03/10/2024 17:46

I just figured for the first 6 months of their life it was worth it to help prevent SIDS. We got back on track afterwards.

The only SIDS advice when I had my children was the ‘back to sleep’ campaign. There was nothing about keeping your child in your room.

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 03/10/2024 17:49

I moved my son into his own room the day he turned 6 months. Ever since he was a newborn I’d breastfed him to sleep and then put him down in his crib in my room already asleep. I just started putting him down in his cot in his own room instead. He didn’t even notice the difference.

WiserOlderElf · 03/10/2024 17:46

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 17:36

It baffles me. How does anyone have a healthy sex life if they’ve got a baby or toddler in their bedroom?!

I just figured for the first 6 months of their life it was worth it to help prevent SIDS. We got back on track afterwards.

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 17:36

FloydGerhardt · 03/10/2024 17:00

Same here. We never had the children in our bed. If they were poorly in the night we would see to them, sort them out and they would be back in their beds.

It baffles me. How does anyone have a healthy sex life if they’ve got a baby or toddler in their bedroom?!

Wantitalltogoaway · 03/10/2024 17:35

SwordToFlamethrower · 03/10/2024 01:05

My dd is 22 months and has a cabin bed in her room but been cosleeping with us since birth.

She knows it's her room and a few days ago she was playing with some toys in her room and we said "this is your room and this is your bed and these are your toys!" She agreed and started pretending to sleep in it. So from that night, we put her to bed in her own room. So far so good. She does sometimes wake up at about 4am and climbs back in with us. But it is so nice to be able to come to bed and put a lamp on and read for a bit or chat, or something else...!

I’m really interested in this. Is this now what mums are being told? That by co-sleeping they are helping their baby’s brain development? Ergo if you don’t co-sleep…

That sounds like an awful lot of (extra) pressure to me.

I’m no neuroscientist, but I’d be willing to bet children get most of this from their interactions when they are awake…

JellyCakeSweet · 03/10/2024 17:12

We moved our baby at 4 months. He has a monitor and we can hear him in his room next door anyway. He quickly then slept through the night. We used some light sleep training and it worked very quickly. I really believe a well rested mum and baby with good sleep habits is worth its weight in gold. Yes there are the odd bad nights or regressions but he's a very happy baby. Most of my NCT group have done the same.

Maray1967 · 03/10/2024 17:05

FlingThatCarrot · 03/10/2024 12:57

The evidence shows babies regulate their breathing better if they're in the same room as an adult. So HV2 was sort of correct. Babies can hold their breath- sleep apnoea. This doesn't happen in cultures that co sleep as standard hut does where babies are put alone very young. It's not conclusive but it's a hard thing to test.

Mine went into their own room at 7 and 8 months, I night weaned at the same time and we all slept better. Apart from maybe Dp who had to do a few nights on their floors. Next baby will be much the same. I'd prefer 6 months but I thinks there's too much going on with starting solids and them learning to crawl.

That’s interesting - if I’d known that I might well have done things differently with DS1. But moving DS2 at 6 months was hard and I do t think it would have been easier later on, probably even harder! We all need bigger bedrooms! Squeezing the cot in ours was a challenge.

FloydGerhardt · 03/10/2024 17:00

AgainandagainandagainSS · 03/10/2024 13:06

I totally agree with you. My bed is a child, laptop, food and dog free zone (husband admitted subject to good behaviour hahaha). Because we need sleep and sorry but yes, sex is a healthy part of a marriage/relationship.

Same here. We never had the children in our bed. If they were poorly in the night we would see to them, sort them out and they would be back in their beds.

WiserOlderElf · 03/10/2024 14:37

6 months for all mine, as per SIDS advice. Wasn’t worth the risk to me of going against advice as the stakes are so high. I don’t think any of them felt abandoned!

OnNaturesCourse · 03/10/2024 14:31

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 03/10/2024 13:01

To all the people who have their children in the same room or even the same bed for years, do you feel you miss out on private time with your partner? Yes I mean sex, not only at night but in the morning, and also just cuddling in bed and chatting on your own? Presumably you're not having sex in the room while the child is in there.

There are other areas of the house to have sex, and you can have sex in the room while baby is completely unaware of it - probably the first 6 months - and then you just need to be quiet so as not to wake them lol.

We are lucky our room is big enough that past 6 months the next to me bed gets put away and the cot is put up against the wall away from our bed though so I guess that helps.

But definitely other rooms... A whole house in fact.

McGregor33 · 03/10/2024 13:29

My oldest was 6 months, she then took febrile convulsions and we moved her back in beside us until around 15 months. Middle was approx 1 and youngest is still in with me at 18 months- pretty complex kiddo though so feels safer to us.

AgainandagainandagainSS · 03/10/2024 13:06

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 03/10/2024 13:01

To all the people who have their children in the same room or even the same bed for years, do you feel you miss out on private time with your partner? Yes I mean sex, not only at night but in the morning, and also just cuddling in bed and chatting on your own? Presumably you're not having sex in the room while the child is in there.

I totally agree with you. My bed is a child, laptop, food and dog free zone (husband admitted subject to good behaviour hahaha). Because we need sleep and sorry but yes, sex is a healthy part of a marriage/relationship.

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