Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to overtake a hearse?

409 replies

confusedabouthormones · 01/10/2024 12:10

So today on the way home from school I had just pulled onto a dual carriageway and there was a hearse with some cars behind it. They were going to a near by crematorium. I pulled into the outside lane and drove past it.

My mother was in the car and she had a right go at me for being disrespectful and how she was embarrassed to be in my car. When I looked in my mirror no one else had passed the hearse.

Is this a thing? In my 30 odd years driving I've never heard this.

Was I being unreasonable to pass the hearse?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
6
easylikeasundaymorn · 01/10/2024 20:48

ThatsNotMyTeen · 01/10/2024 20:02

of course you can overtake on single carriageway roads if it’s safe to do so

a) at least where I live it's not practical, particularly on residential roads- people parking either side means it's not doable, plus hard to overtake at 20mph which is the speed limit now
b) even if it's technically do-able (e.g. more of an A road) it's rarely going to be safe to overtake a hearse (already longer and wider than the average car) plus several following cars - that's a long time to be on the 'wrong' side of the road. It's not like funerals are held late at night or in the middle of nowhere - most funeral processions are in built up areas because that's where most people live

I drive on A roads a LOT and have got stuck trawling behind tractors more times than I can count, because the roads are so busy it's very rarely quiet enough to overtake safely these days, particularly if more than 1 car. Also many aren't very straight so you don't have good visibility.

Shade17 · 01/10/2024 20:20

I am wondering how many of the don't overtake camp are also drivers (on UK dual carriageways).

It’s amazing how many UK drivers don’t even know what a DC is!

TMess · 01/10/2024 20:15

I would never, but where I live all other traffic pulls over and waits. If that’s not the convention where you are I think it was probably fine on a dual road.

99point6 · 01/10/2024 20:13

I am wondering how many of the don't overtake camp are also drivers (on UK dual carriageways). As a few have said, at the time you commit to over take you can't know what the slow vehicle is. Then what happens as you notice the hearse? Drive slowly alongside it? Drive even more slowly so the funeral procession undertakes?
Bonkers.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 01/10/2024 20:02

easylikeasundaymorn · 01/10/2024 19:59

but you're not supposed to overtake on single lane/residential roads anyway (usually there's not enough space to overtake safely given you'd have to drive on the 'wrong side' for several cars width) so of course it applies to dual carriages!

of course you can overtake on single carriageway roads if it’s safe to do so

easylikeasundaymorn · 01/10/2024 19:59

ExquisiteEmelda · 01/10/2024 12:13

I wouldn’t overtake on a normal road but surely a dual carriageway is fair game?? 🤔

but you're not supposed to overtake on single lane/residential roads anyway (usually there's not enough space to overtake safely given you'd have to drive on the 'wrong side' for several cars width) so of course it applies to dual carriages!

maddening · 01/10/2024 19:30

On a dual carriageway i do not see the issue - plus once the queue got a certain length no-one at the back would have a clue so you would start overtaking and come up to the hearse to find out it is a funeral

AllAboutNiamh · 01/10/2024 19:28

Motherofacertainage · 01/10/2024 19:15

It's respectful not to overtake a hearse in any circumstances. If you weren't in an emergency or a desperate rush then your mum was right. Modern life is so rushed and busy I think it's only right to be mindful of the recently deceased and indeed their grieving loved ones.

This is complete nonsense. If you’re on a motorway or dual carriageway, you absolutely should overtake.

Motherofacertainage · 01/10/2024 19:15

It's respectful not to overtake a hearse in any circumstances. If you weren't in an emergency or a desperate rush then your mum was right. Modern life is so rushed and busy I think it's only right to be mindful of the recently deceased and indeed their grieving loved ones.

Tink3rbell30 · 01/10/2024 19:13

I think it's very disrespectful, there we are.

Astrak · 01/10/2024 19:11

I would never do this on any road. Poor form and disrespectful to the deceased and their relatives and other mourners.

DappledThings · 01/10/2024 19:03

Tink3rbell30 · 01/10/2024 18:52

Lots of comments agree with me, very disrespectful.

And only about 1% of those acknowledge it was a dual carriageway and say they still think it's wrong. The others are, I suspect, all knee-jerk reactions to the word overtaking without any comprehension of the situation.

Topseyt123 · 01/10/2024 18:59

Tink3rbell30 · 01/10/2024 18:52

Lots of comments agree with me, very disrespectful.

No it isn't and more comments disagree with you than agree.

Topseyt123 · 01/10/2024 18:57

Tink3rbell30 · 01/10/2024 18:29

How disrespectful.

Why? They were on a dual carriageway!

I've seen hearses and funeral processions on trunk roads (dual carriageway) and even the motorway (M11) near here and the traffic certainly doesn't just slow down drastically for them any more than it must. They are overtaken. They have to be or there could be a dangerous build-up of traffic behind. They keep to the left where there is a special lane leading off to near the crematorium.

Tink3rbell30 · 01/10/2024 18:52

itwasnevermine · 01/10/2024 18:37

They were on a dual carriageway!!!!

Lots of comments agree with me, very disrespectful.

itwasnevermine · 01/10/2024 18:37

Tink3rbell30 · 01/10/2024 18:29

How disrespectful.

They were on a dual carriageway!!!!

Tink3rbell30 · 01/10/2024 18:29

How disrespectful.

MontysBakehouse · 01/10/2024 18:24

Absolutely fine and normal on a dual carraigeway.

anotherusernameforme · 01/10/2024 18:06

I certainly wouldn't be too impressed if they walked the entire way but most places I drive to there's normally a different route I could take if this happened so I would just take that.
But as PP said normally it's just to the end of their road or similar.

itwasnevermine · 01/10/2024 17:55

@Gloriia I completely agree

It's so bizarre to expect random people who have never interacted with the deceased to "show their respect". They have no respect for the person beyond an initial thought of "oh, that's sad".

Needmorelego · 01/10/2024 17:55

@Gloriia the walking bit is usually done at the start of the journey as the deceased leaves home for the last time.
They usually only walk a couple of minutes and then get in the car.
Very unusual to walk all the way.

Gloriia · 01/10/2024 17:51

anotherusernameforme · 01/10/2024 17:40

It probably doesn't actually matter and for me personally if I was in one of the mourners cars I couldn't care less and probably wouldn't notice however it matters to a lot of people and etiquette says it's appropriate much like there's no law about letting a door bang on somebody but social etiquette says to hold it open and if one little act can help somebody on one of the worse days it's something I'm willing to do.

Yes I see your point there are many social etiquette things that aren't necessary but we all observe.

Imo funeral processions are different as they are of course slow and disruptive. I was behind one the other day with a funeral director walking, on a public road with a massive tail back. It is a bit much to expect others to be inconvenienced like this.

I of course have every sympathy for those bereaved but I've been to a few funerals and do not expect others to be inconvenienced for the sake of a few cars travelling very slowly.

anotherusernameforme · 01/10/2024 17:40

Gloriia · 01/10/2024 17:20

But what does it actually matter? They all pull into the venue and people then make their way in together. If another car accidentally ends up in the middle of the procession I wouldn't be bothered.

If people want to have processions etc fine, but they really shouldn't expect the general public to adhere to any so called etiquette.

I would overtake anyone going slowly on single or dual carriageways.

It probably doesn't actually matter and for me personally if I was in one of the mourners cars I couldn't care less and probably wouldn't notice however it matters to a lot of people and etiquette says it's appropriate much like there's no law about letting a door bang on somebody but social etiquette says to hold it open and if one little act can help somebody on one of the worse days it's something I'm willing to do.

DappledThings · 01/10/2024 17:31

Gloriia · 01/10/2024 17:20

But what does it actually matter? They all pull into the venue and people then make their way in together. If another car accidentally ends up in the middle of the procession I wouldn't be bothered.

If people want to have processions etc fine, but they really shouldn't expect the general public to adhere to any so called etiquette.

I would overtake anyone going slowly on single or dual carriageways.

It is odd. I've been to about 25 funerals, many involving a drive between church and crematorium. Some have been close family so I've been in a limo, many I've just been in my own car. I've never considered anyone not in the family limo to be travelling in any kind of procession. Had never heard the idea at all until a similar thread on here a couple of years ago.

Even being in the first limo I don't necessarily expect to follow the hearse with nobody between us. It's getting from A to B. Same as a wedding going from church to hotel. It's a lot of people making the same journey, it isn't a convoy.

Gloriia · 01/10/2024 17:20

anotherusernameforme · 01/10/2024 14:12

An etiquette is to not cut into the possession of vehicles behind the hearse but how do you know who is just driving behind and who is actually the mourners? Is it just the actual limo you don't cut?

But what does it actually matter? They all pull into the venue and people then make their way in together. If another car accidentally ends up in the middle of the procession I wouldn't be bothered.

If people want to have processions etc fine, but they really shouldn't expect the general public to adhere to any so called etiquette.

I would overtake anyone going slowly on single or dual carriageways.

Swipe left for the next trending thread