AIBU to overtake a hearse?

@DavidBeckhamsrightfoot to be honest I have lost the point of what I am arguing with you about.
I originally said about a scenario I witnessed where some vehicles were held up at a traffic junction for a few minutes (despite their lights being green) because a horse drawn hearse and a couple of cars were turning in the junction.
I can't understand why you think that is such a terrible thing to do?

'Horses may be slower but so will tractors'

Tractors are a necessary part of farming, ditto jcbs with construction and many other slow moving vehicles. No one is using a tractor daily as part of a procession.

But what respect? Why aren't they respecting my time? You never know what someone is doing.

So again I will always follow safety and the rules of the road but that includes my right of way.

I and others have shared our experiences that this just is not the case.

I've every sympathy for those bereaved, I think we sadly have all experience of it but whilst out driving I will overtake as appropriate and pull out where appropriate and safe. This is not disrespectful it is just what we all should be doing whilst driving to save hazardous tail backs and disruption.

I'm sorry you don't get it. The vast majority of people have emotional intelligence. I hope you develop some.

Why would it matter if you like the person? What a silly comment. It's about respect for the mourners. You jumped the shark there.

You just pulling stuff out of thin air now?
OK so you're OK with punching babies?

@Gloriia there's barely any hold ups. Five minutes if that at the start of the journey.
Along main roads/duel cartridgeways they will travel at regular speeds.
Horses may be slower but so will tractors.

@DavidBeckhamsrightfoot so you are happy to startle horses ?
Just funeral ones or general riders too?

'do you get annoyed too if you get held up in traffic because a car has crashed? Or a child hit on the road? Or a road closed because a building is on fire?'

But these are unexpected accidents. Funerals are planned.

Other people's processions and rituals should not disrupt those who are not involved.

Not in my experience. And not in the context of this post.
It's to long and uneccessary.

Again, who does the disruption actually benefit.
Get moving and get on with it.

I will always prioritise the safety and laws of the road.
So if I have right of way at a junction or a roundabout the funeral will have to deal with that.

@DavidBeckhamsrightfoot they go slow for just a few minutes - not the whole journey.

The hearse is choosing to go slow.

Your examples are not someone making a choice

It's rude to make a conscious and selfish choice to disrupt others.

@DavidBeckhamsrightfoot no I don't see the difference.
Sometimes car drivers have just got to wait.
Just the other day at the same junction that I witnessed a horse drawn hearse there was an incident where the delivery lorry for the little Tesco tried to turn at a miss judged angle, got stuck and the security guy and a member of staff had to hold up the traffic and assist the lorry driver doing a kind of 16 point turn.
Things happen from time to time.
Not much you can do than just wait for 5 minutes.

And? They can't greive at a normal speed? Why does their private grieving have to disrupt others day?

Does their grief mean nothing else matters? What I'd I'm having a shot day?

What if I wouldn't have liked the dead person?

Because they are grieving and you aren't. Pretty simple.

Sorry OP, not cool.

You absolutely never break the cortege either. It's so disrespectful.

I mean yes, people will get frustrated by those delays? It's a normal human emotion, as long as you're not stood there screaming at the people involved it's fine to feel like that?

And you can't notice the difference in your examples?
Do I really have to dumb down that much?
Can you maybe drawn1 difference between the topic and your examples?

So every car that happens to be in front of a hearse has overtaken it?

She was already in front of it because she had right of way across the junction ! 🤦🏻‍♀️

@DavidBeckhamsrightfoot do you get annoyed too if you get held up in traffic because a car has crashed? Or a child hit on the road? Or a road closed because a building is on fire?
Those scenarios will involve strangers.
As established on the thread it's fine to over take on a duel carriageway. So no hold ups there.
The only time a hearse and the following cars go slow is usually at the beginning when the lead undertaker briefly walks infront. They will then get in the car and travel at normal speed.
Obviously if it's horses it will be a bit slower but horse drawn hearses are rare these days.
You will probably be delayed by 5 minutes.

Funny procession of holier than the pope posts.

Dual is ok

Yes it’s not always practical and can be a complete pain in the arse I agree. But you said you’re not supposed to overtake on those roads, which isn’t the same thing and incorrect.

Can anyone actually explain why as individuals we have to care and disrupt our day for a starnger?
Under the guise they may be disrespected?
Why should we care if someone we will never meet feels a nonimportant feeling?

Why shouldn't they care that I feel disrespected at being held up?

Driving with wife to her mother’s ceremony at Crematorium with others in car . Half a mile out and saw mothers hearse ahead of us on inside lane of dual carriageway. Had to overtake to get there before her ! 😂
…are we being unreasonable- no , not on a dual carriageway ( as long as you overtake sedately.)

This thread reminded me of when my much loved Grandma died. The memorial service for everyone was in our village, but the burial was in a nearby city, family only. After the service we all drove separately up to the cemetery in the city. At the time my brother drove a clapped out landrover, that struggled to go over 40 miles an hour. As he was driving on the motorway he glanced at the middle lane and realised that he was going so slowly that he was being overtaken by the hearse with Grandma inside! It made us all smile on a very sad day and we all agreed that Grandma would have been tickled pink by it.