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Having to "buzz for booze"

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Elendel · 29/09/2024 15:57

I understand why supermarkets do this, I really do. Theft, especially en masse, is a huge problem, and alcohol is among the most commonly stolen items. The locked shelves even look neat and smart.

However, I find the system hugely off-putting.

I feel like I'm being treated like a naughty child when I have to press the button and wait for a member of staff to get me a bottle of spirits (I like a good cocktail on a weekend).

I cannot go and read the bottle labels and explore new brands and flavours as I need to point at what I want and it is gotten within the shortest time possible before the doors are locked again.

The waiting around is inconvenient. I hate food shopping and try to do it in as little time as possible. I had to wait around a few minutes and felt compelled to make small talk with the elderly gentleman who was also waiting. I hate small talk at the best of times.

The waiting around is embarrassing. It wouldn't be too bad if I could press the button and the thing silently sent a message to a nearby member of staff. Instead, a loud, automatic voice keeps reminding me that they have alerted a member of staff to assist me. Again, for several minutes. I work in a school and prefer to buy my booze discreetly rather than announcing it to the whole shop, which may well contain some of my charges who'd just love to text their mates that Miss is buying raspberry-flavoured vodka.

It inconveniences staff. My local store has massively reduced its workforce since the introduction of self-service tills to the point that only one member of staff (who also has to hand out bags as they get taken, too) who runs around like a headless chicken between 20 tills the entire time. Shelves are barely restocked in busy times as it is and now it's ANOTHER thing on the list of staff to do.

I am a gentle person with a fair bit of patience. Many people around me really are not. So I assume that staff will now face even more abuse due to the inconvenience and waiting times.

I am honestly waiting to see what happens in the long run. Will the gain from less theft make up for the loss in custom? Will it make up for the maintenance and inevitable damage that will occur with these lockboxes? Will other stores have to follow suit as they will now have an increased share of shoplifters because it is far more convenient? Will meat, cheese and other high-value foods be next?

Yes, my liver will probably be grateful because I will drink far less, and my wallet will be happier because on the occasions I do, I will likely switch to wine. But for god's sake, are all the little pleasures in life slowly being taken away from us law-abiding folk because a few arseholes are spoiling it all for everyone else.

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Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:51

fuzzwuss · 29/09/2024 16:40

Would you be able to order from amazon? They deliver booze.

Yes I could, but it's now, I think, £60 for free delivery - that's a hell of a lot of money to pay upfront (and inflated in price, of course) when I'd rather have my £15 bottle of reasonably cheap but cheerful booze I used to be able to buy without issues with my weekly food shop. Not to mention having to get a slot and then having to wait in. It's still inconvenient.

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Thfrog · 29/09/2024 16:50

So what some kids see you buying booze who cares?

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:48

@Thfrog You'd be surprised at the gossip we get exposed to 😂

@iwfja I have already stated what I will do instead. My need for alcohol isn't that great that I cannot do without, or I just buy wine if I really do fancy a glass (the wine is currently not behind locked doors).

But it pisses me off no end that more and more things I used to enjoy are being heavily restricted because of a few people who choose not to abide by common decency laws.

And as already shown above, if we're heading the Target way, then soon most of our shopping will be behind bars. Then the last few small shops will fold and we will all be forced to accept whatever low standards of quality and delivery are available online.

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WartOrNot · 29/09/2024 16:44

I'd shop somewhere else. Never come across this anywhere I shop regularly.

fuzzwuss · 29/09/2024 16:40

Would you be able to order from amazon? They deliver booze.

Thfrog · 29/09/2024 16:39

I work in a school and prefer to buy my booze discreetly rather than announcing it to the whole shop, which may well contain some of my charges who'd just love to text their mates that Miss is buying raspberry-flavoured vodka. that's you being ridiculous here.

SoulMole · 29/09/2024 16:38

Chillisintheair · 29/09/2024 15:59

It’s to make sure you’re 18. If they didn’t they would lose their license which would be more inconvient more you if you wanted to buy alcohol.

It's not. As it's only 5% of their alcohol stock. The most expensive spirits and champagnes. Beers, wines and all cheaper drinks are freely available.

iwfja · 29/09/2024 16:37

Yes it's annoying but you obviously don't want to change to one of the alternatives suggested so you will have to put up with it.

It would piss me off and I would take my money elsewhere. Then it couldn't piss me off any more and maybe the shop might have to have a rethink about the system if they lose lots of customers. eg. put security tags on the bottles which can be removed at the checkout.

Needmorelego · 29/09/2024 16:35

@Elendel just start using a different supermarket.
(The time it took you to post this thread you could have applied for a different shops loyalty card)

ARichtGoodDram · 29/09/2024 16:32

In one of the supermarkets near here expensive cheeses are in the net bags with security tags, same with baby formula.

Big joints of meat have tags on them.

ARichtGoodDram · 29/09/2024 16:31

halava · 29/09/2024 16:09

Maybe they should set up a little "off licence"/ wine shop section within the supermarket, with an assistant and a till. You need your receipt to get out through the doors, like they do with self service tills in Europe. Would that work?

This is exactly how it used to be in Wm Lows when I was a kid.

I was always fascinated by it as other than the bit you got served at there was metal cage-looking fencing from the counter to ceiling to stop thefts.

RawBloomers · 29/09/2024 16:29

I’m in a US city that’s been in the national news for shoplifting problems. In some Supermarkets you have to walk through one way gates to get in. Alcohol, dishwasher and laundry supplies, toothpaste and shampoo and a bunch of other items are all behind locked doors. And they don’t have enough staff on hand so it takes for ever if you do want something that’s locked away. Which means I avoid those shops and go online even more.

rumblegrumble · 29/09/2024 16:27

Not seen it at all but yes, that would be very annoying - is it for all alcohol or just spirits? There'd be insane queues if they tried it at my local Tesco when it's 25% off 6 bottles of wine! The local big Waitrose has a separate alcohol bit with dim lighting and an attendant, though I suspect that's not because of theft. And you don't pay in there. My local Boots confused me by hiding Hycosan eyedrops behind the counter when all the cheaper makes were on display, they said that was because of theft. Maybe which items need locking up says something about the area!

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 29/09/2024 16:25

As I said, I see this as the potential thin end of the wedge. Once we've got all the alcohol locked away, will it be meats and cheeses next? Formula milk? Perhaps we are heading towards a world in which in-person shopping is soon becoming a thing of the past and it will be click and collect only, for safety reasons.

Might be - seen on-line videos in places like NY where shops like Target do this for large ranges due to massive shop lifting.

I don't think it automatically happen here - not least as many shoppers will go on-line often to shops like amazon or to other shops so they'd lose sales.

InTheRainOnATrain · 29/09/2024 16:24

When I lived in Chicago, very nice neighbourhood if I may add, the wine and beer at CVS/Walgreens was all on open shelves where anyone could grab it but the deodorant was under lock and key and required the aforementioned buzzer. DEODORANT FFS.

Never seen it here in the UK. Have seen security tags on spirits, those are fine as easy to remove at the checkout. Buzzer just drives me to buy online tbh.

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:20

I actually think this will make assaults on shop staff more likely. Once the door is open, what's to stop someone from pulling a knife at you to get the booze and/ or the key. The staff at my local shop know me well, because I've been going there for years and always chat at the tills while packing, but there must be so many people they'd rather not open to door to.

And I couldn't be doing with the obvious judgement that a PP mentioned.

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TickingAlongNicely · 29/09/2024 16:15

At ur Morrisons with the system, you pay for the alcohol at the special till in the booze section.

cookiebee · 29/09/2024 16:15

Well of course it’s all to do with the loss of profits at the supermarket, all the years I worked in one there were huge issues with booze theft. But making it hard to get to isn’t the worse thing in the long run and may happen anyway, it is a pretty devastating toxic drug that causes numerous societal problems!

But on a lighter note, it is funny imagining an alarm going off, when I was a teen I tried to discreetly check out a Barbra Streisand biography from the library, only for the assistant not to scan it correctly and the security alarm went off and the barrier locked on my trying to exit, embarrassing for a teenager, “I’ll need to rescan that security barcode on that BARBRA STREISAND book”, people in the queue looking me up and down!

Buildingthefuture · 29/09/2024 16:14

I came across this in my local Morrisons for the first time this week. I appreciate it’s not their fault, people are obviously stealing a shit ton of booze, but I agree, it is annoying, I buzzed, no one came so I had to trail round the store looking for someone. I found a lady and she opened it for me, but then stood there giving me side eye as I loaded in the wine. I had half a trolley full of baby formula and baby food (for the local food bank!) and half a trolley full of wine because we had friends coming. She said it was an “interesting mix” 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I didn’t bother to reply but won’t shop there again! She thought I was an alcoholic with a newborn 🤦‍♀️

TryingToHelpBut · 29/09/2024 16:13

Haven't seen this either but yes, potentially really annoying- especially at Christmas time. They'd be better off having a stand like the cigarette stand with someone there the whole time serving people. Surely there is still the opportunity to shoplift once they have got the spirts out for you anyway?

Doggymummar · 29/09/2024 16:13

I've never seen that, sound awful. Most shops is £40 for free delivery, I would get is delivered

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:12

Online alcohol shopping has a fair few of the inconveniences that I mentioned above. Not being able to get a decent feel for what I'm buying. Less choice. Having to wait around. Added to that delivery fees and/ or a need to bulk buy. I'm really not a fan of the online way for groceries.

As I said, I see this as the potential thin end of the wedge. Once we've got all the alcohol locked away, will it be meats and cheeses next? Formula milk? Perhaps we are heading towards a world in which in-person shopping is soon becoming a thing of the past and it will be click and collect only, for safety reasons.

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gamerchick · 29/09/2024 16:12

They've done this in both of the Morrisons near me. I don't buy alcohol there anymore as I definitely don't have the patience to wait for a member of staff. Asda do better deals on the Christmas drink anyway.

It's due to the shoplifting problem. There a proper issue with it here. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. I can't even see how to stops the shoplifters apart from filling bags up. They don't then accompany you to the till.

halava · 29/09/2024 16:09

Maybe they should set up a little "off licence"/ wine shop section within the supermarket, with an assistant and a till. You need your receipt to get out through the doors, like they do with self service tills in Europe. Would that work?