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Am I the worst daughter in law?!

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Anonymous75 · 29/09/2024 14:58

Hi,
Somebody please tell me if I'm a heartless DIL here!
Around 4 months ago MIL was really sadly widowed and we were/are obviously devastated.

Myself and DH have done our best to support her in every possible way (phone calls, visits with DS every day - sometimes twice, seeing to her every need and dropping countless plans when she's been especially upset etc)

I'm facing a problem now though, as I'm trying to put some boundaries in place. Maybe im heartless but the constant visits (now 3/4 times a week) are really wearing me down. If we don't immediately drop plans or allow her to visit when it suits her she starts crying on the phone to guilt trip DH. DH is torn because he doesn't want his mom to struggle but gets stressed himself that he's spreading himself too thin (work, DS, hobbies) and I get the brunt of the stress.

I feel terrible for her but is it really so cruel to not want to see my MIL all. The. Time. DH understands it's all a bit suffocating but nothing changes, if I suggest limiting visits to twice a week (I still think this is a lot?!) it ends in a disagreement so I just drop it.

After a long day at work I want to get into my pjs and spend some time with DS myself, instead of hosting.

For context- MIL has lots of other family support and manages to keep busy in the day whilst we're working.

I don't know if I'm being horrible or how to go about bringing this up?! But I can't go on living on edge waiting for the dreaded 'I'll just pop in' phone call!

Sorry for the vent 🙃

OP posts:
ManchesterLu · 03/10/2024 12:26

I can understand how difficult it is for you, but her world has just been turned upside down, so she's not acting rationally or reasonably.

Agree with what PPs say. She can pop round to yours whenever she wants, but you're not "hosting", she is just one of the family, and can just sit and chill with you for as long as she needs to.

If she needs to be visited at home, get into the habit of letting DH go, leaving you and DS at home, that way DS's routine isn't changed too much.

It will pass, eventually. She will get into a new routine and will come to terms with her loss, but 4 months is still new and raw.

VisitationRights · 03/10/2024 12:22

YANBU I would find this much of visiting so intrusive. It is your home and your life as well, if your MiL needs this level of support then your husband needs to go to her in her home. You two need to decide a reasonable amount for her to come to yours but you shouldn’t be forced to shoulder all this.

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 12:21

ItsTheGAGGGGGG · 03/10/2024 12:17

Another one where the OP doesn’t bother coming back

Because she didn't get the response she wanted, no doubt she was expecting everyone to say her MIL is evil for daring to need support

Pherian · 03/10/2024 12:20

Shes still trying to figure out how to live now.

maybe say hey, you’re more than welcome but bring your pjs we’re going to have a glass of wine and watch a movie.

My in-laws show up unannounced and uninvited and they stopped doing it as much when I wouldn’t stop what I was doing to fuss over then and if asked a personal question (about my finances usually) I’d just shut it down politely.

ItsTheGAGGGGGG · 03/10/2024 12:17

Another one where the OP doesn’t bother coming back

Jayne35 · 03/10/2024 12:17

Would you be the same if it was your Mum? And not MIL? My Mum is widowed (has been for years now) and she visits a lot, though I am happy for her to visit while I am in PJ's, I also don't care if MIL pops in when I'm in PJs. I guess it just depends on how close the family are in the first place.

Four months is such a short time, I expect your MIL cries still most of the time anyway, not just when you don't want her round your house.

EllyGi · 03/10/2024 12:12

Ya, I'm sorry. I lost my dad 2 years ago and my mom still griefs so much. 4 months in is nothing! You need to be more patient, it's cruel to say she is guilt tripping ... you obviously don't understand the level of her grief and are minimising her feelings.

Swiftie1878 · 03/10/2024 12:08

It’s only been 4 months!
it’s way too soon to pull up the drawbridge. Sure it’s hard on you all. Times are hard when there’s a death in the family. You need to suck it up for a LOT longer though, sorry. ☹️

MrRobinsonsQuango · 03/10/2024 12:05

Personally l would put my pyjamas on, have an early night if required, go to extra curricular etc. Everyone can’t put their life on hold forever every day and she needs to work around you, as from what has been written you gave lots going on. I also wouldn’t be shouldering the hosting, that’s your husbands role as her son

Welshmonster · 03/10/2024 12:02

Stop treating her visits like an event and more like normal life. If you are in PJs then so be it. She probably finds evenings hard as everyone is doing their things so can only go to family. Just act as you normally would. Play with DS. MIL can read her book or watch tv etc. or go to her house as then you can leave

Psychologymam · 03/10/2024 12:02

If your husband died would you revert to your usual normal self after four months? I didn’t think so. If you can’t find compassion for your MIL, absent yourself (go upstairs, run a bath, chill out in bedroom, go out for run) but don’t try take away her source of support - her son. I say this as someone who MIL needs support and we have a really busy life to juggle (I get it - it’s hard) but this isn’t the time.

JustKeepSwimmingJust · 03/10/2024 11:59

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:53

Who is OP (or anyone else) to say how much support she needs and for how long.

Of course OP can say how much support she wants to give.

OP is a living breathing person, she’s not a robot.

The sexism on this thread is insane.

Nearly everyone has said to stop “hosting” in a way that puts effort in. Some of us have even suggested trying to ask MiL to help a little to ease pressures and help her feel part of a family and valued.

try flipping the genders and see if it would be acceptable for a husband to stop his wife’s mum visiting in similar circumstances

MoveToParis · 03/10/2024 11:57

OP, would you say that MIL is moving in the right direction, or is she getting stuck?

I think frequent visits to grieve together and support are OK. Expecting you and DP to fill the gap in her life, whilst she makes no changes- a bit worrying.

What does she say?

AnxietyLevelMax · 03/10/2024 11:57

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:53

Who is OP (or anyone else) to say how much support she needs and for how long.

Of course OP can say how much support she wants to give.

OP is a living breathing person, she’s not a robot.

The sexism on this thread is insane.

She can say how much she wants to give but not how much mil needs. Its not always all about us.
all i am saying is if her husband needs to step up, then its not mil problem. But wanting to put boundaries after 4 months bc its too much it sound rough and will bite her back

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:53

AnxietyLevelMax · 03/10/2024 11:51

I just think differently. Who is OP (or anyone else) to say how much support she needs and for how long. She might have other family and friends but it is natural she prefers to be around son and his family in this situation.
yes, agree, if DH is not stepping up and it falls on OP’s shoulders then DH is a problem snd not MIL.
OP, just let her be around, go about your life, let her be around, as someone else said here - do not make a big event of her coming over, stay in pj’s if you usually would at that time or whatever. If you cant drop everything and go to see her, ask her to come over to yours, take her with you if going to a child practice or whatever you have to drop at the time. Show some sympathy. She will get used to the new norm. What we give comes back and i dont wish anyone to be in MIL situation.

Who is OP (or anyone else) to say how much support she needs and for how long.

Of course OP can say how much support she wants to give.

OP is a living breathing person, she’s not a robot.

The sexism on this thread is insane.

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 11:52

@angeldelite I don’t know how many more times I can say YES I WOULD!!

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:51

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 11:47

@angeldelite you've now added the part about the bereavement and I am saying yes, if my partner told me I could no longer support my mother after my father's death, I would leave them.

You only get one set of parents. For the most part, they sacrifice everything to give you what you have had. They're some of the only people on this planet who will love you unconditionally. I could never turn my back on my parents.

No, I didn’t add in the the part about the bereavement, the whole thread is about a bereavement!

OP has never told her husband he can’t support her mother. She doesn’t want to go there 4 x a week.

And as you keep avoiding answering the question about if you’d leave him if he doesn’t want to visit your mum 4 x a week, 4 months after a bereavement, it sounds like you expect less from your DH than you expect from
Op. And why is that? Because she’s a woman.

AnxietyLevelMax · 03/10/2024 11:51

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:33

Four months of 4 x visits a week to MIL’s house is more than enough. It’s time to start tailing it down, starting with going down to 1 x visit a week. DH, her actual son, can go more often if wants.

You are placing too much responsibility on women.

I just think differently. Who is OP (or anyone else) to say how much support she needs and for how long. She might have other family and friends but it is natural she prefers to be around son and his family in this situation.
yes, agree, if DH is not stepping up and it falls on OP’s shoulders then DH is a problem snd not MIL.
OP, just let her be around, go about your life, let her be around, as someone else said here - do not make a big event of her coming over, stay in pj’s if you usually would at that time or whatever. If you cant drop everything and go to see her, ask her to come over to yours, take her with you if going to a child practice or whatever you have to drop at the time. Show some sympathy. She will get used to the new norm. What we give comes back and i dont wish anyone to be in MIL situation.

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 11:47

@angeldelite you've now added the part about the bereavement and I am saying yes, if my partner told me I could no longer support my mother after my father's death, I would leave them.

You only get one set of parents. For the most part, they sacrifice everything to give you what you have had. They're some of the only people on this planet who will love you unconditionally. I could never turn my back on my parents.

JustKeepSwimmingJust · 03/10/2024 11:46

Don’t push your also grieving DH out of the house. This is a time he needs to lean on you while you both support his DM. No problems are mentioned in your marriage, so don’t put a wall between the two of you now.

Gently transition to her being present while you behave “normally” though. No big deal about it, she is there and part of your family.

Even think about gently asking her for some help when she is seeming ok. Not “you must do lots” but normal family activity: doing the drying while someone else washes up, light help for DS (depending on age: bedtime story, lift to a club, helping with a hobby) etc

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:46

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 11:43

@angeldelite are you not reading my responses? You're taking it out of the context of the MIL being recently bereaved.

I’m reading your responses. You said you’d leave your husband. I’m asking if you’d really leave him if he doesn’t want to visit your mum 4 x a week, 4 months after a bereavement.

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 11:43

@angeldelite are you not reading my responses? You're taking it out of the context of the MIL being recently bereaved.

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:42

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 11:41

@angeldelite after a bereavement? If my partner turned around and said "I'm drawing a boundary, she can't come here anymore" yes I bloody well would. You only get one set of parents.

Why won’t you answer the question. If your husband told you he doesn’t want to visit your mum 4 x a week you’d leave him?

Because that’s what OP is being guilt tripped into, 4 x visits a week, even after 4 months after the bereavement.

angeldelite · 03/10/2024 11:41

Greenfield2 · 03/10/2024 11:40

I am single

So that’s entirely different then to OP’s situation.

itwasnevermine · 03/10/2024 11:41

@angeldelite after a bereavement? If my partner turned around and said "I'm drawing a boundary, she can't come here anymore" yes I bloody well would. You only get one set of parents.