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To have expected them to swap DD’s tombola prize?

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LionMummy8 · 29/09/2024 14:07

DD had a go on a family tombola this morning in a family pub/restaurant style place. She won and it was bottle of wine. I asked if she could swap it for one of the more child friendly prizes or one of the teddies but they refused. So she’s won a bottle of wine that she can’t even have! AIBU to have excepted them to swap DD’s prize?

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CoffeeGood · 29/09/2024 17:20

Twototwo15 · 29/09/2024 17:10

Yes, I would have thought they could swop it. It would have been nice for your DD and not hurt anyone else. Don’t know why people have to be so rigid with things for the sake of it.

But say the wine that the OP's daughter won was ticket number 1, and the teddy that she would prefer was ticket number 2. So they swap the prize and another child comes along and gets ticket number 2, so instead of what would have been the teddy, it is now wine because OP kicked up a fuss because her child didn't get what she deemed appropriate. How is that fair to THAT child, who also would have preferred the teddy to the wine? It solves the OP's problem and is nice for her DD but isn't nice for another child. So it IS hurting someone else. The very nature of tombola is that it's a random prize, you may get something you want or you might not and the OP needs to help her daughter to understand that and sort it out herself if absolutely necessary not to shift the problem to someone else, who may be even younger and even less able to understand.

EwwSprouts · 29/09/2024 17:16

where I work, when a child wins alcohol on a tombola we let them swap it for a more suitable prize. That’s just the right thing to do
Same where I work. We have a small additional stash of child friendly prizes that are kept under the table for just such swaps.

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 17:15

@Twototwo15 because if they did that it would put the pubs General Manager running the stall at risk for her liquor and/or gambling licenses if she holds them as it goes against the rules for a prize lottery which is what tombolas and raffles fall under.

Twototwo15 · 29/09/2024 17:10

Yes, I would have thought they could swop it. It would have been nice for your DD and not hurt anyone else. Don’t know why people have to be so rigid with things for the sake of it.

OhmygodDont · 29/09/2024 17:05

I mean if that worked eveyone would find an excuse when they won an item not for them. Sorry no my little pony I’m a horse fearing guy. Sorry no beads.. my cat might eat them.

If you want to win a teddy play a game where all the prizes are teddies 🤷🏻‍♀️

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 17:03

@BrieHugger you can't run a tombola (or raffle) like that if alcohol is involved. There has to be a true chance of winning / not winning it. Otherwise it's effectively just selling alcohol and requires different alcohol licensing/gambling/ Temporary Event licenses. It is good practise to have an alcohol free alternative available to pick from behind the table.

BrieHugger · 29/09/2024 16:59

The best way to run a tombola (especially at something like a school fair where there are tons of kids) is to let them pick the prize themselves. That way there’s no need to label everything, people spend more money knowing they’ll end up with an appropriate prize, and the stuff left over goes straight to charity. Table cleared, minimum effort, everyone happy!

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 16:59

Funkyslippers · 29/09/2024 16:54

That's not what I asked. I asked if there's an official rule to a say that under 18s cannot buy a tombola ticket if the stall has alcohol----

No, normal licensing rules dont apply so a child can buy the ticket, there must be a true chance of luck 'ie not swapping tickets as OP wants', and alcohol must be sealed and handed to someone over 18 and ID checked if in doubt.

TiggyTomCat · 29/09/2024 16:59

My brother won a bottle of whisky when he was a child on a tombola - My Dad just bought him out - both were happy!

Scirocco · 29/09/2024 16:55

Just give her the cash equivalent and drink the wine yourself.

Funkyslippers · 29/09/2024 16:54

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 16:42

@funkyslippers, that is the rule. The alcohol has to be handed to an adult not the child. raffles / tombolas and similar are exempt from normal licensing rules

Edited

That's not what I asked. I asked if there's an official rule to a say that under 18s cannot buy a tombola ticket if the stall has alcohol----

Fluufer · 29/09/2024 16:53

Tombola is luck of the draw, that's the point. You buy her some sweets or a packet of crisps and swap her for the wine.

DragonGypsyDoris · 29/09/2024 16:52

LionMummy8 · 29/09/2024 14:07

DD had a go on a family tombola this morning in a family pub/restaurant style place. She won and it was bottle of wine. I asked if she could swap it for one of the more child friendly prizes or one of the teddies but they refused. So she’s won a bottle of wine that she can’t even have! AIBU to have excepted them to swap DD’s prize?

It's not all about your daughter. Give her £10 for the wine, then she buys what she wants. Or if she's very young you buy what she needs. It doesn't have to be complicated.

andweallsingalong · 29/09/2024 16:49

Whilst legally she shouldn't have been sold a ticket it's no big deal.

Happened all the time when I was a kid.

Either the adult you were with would fancy it and swap for a packet of crisps or whatever. Or am adult would win a kids prize and swap.

Not up to the table organiser. Imagine the uproar if the person who actually won the teddy really wanted it, but was palmed off with your bottle of wine.

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 16:42

@funkyslippers, that is the rule. The alcohol has to be handed to an adult not the child. raffles / tombolas and similar are exempt from normal licensing rules

Funkyslippers · 29/09/2024 16:41

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/09/2024 14:15

True. Stalls that have alcohol can only sell tickets to adults. OP didn’t say her daughter bought the ticket though, an adult may have purchased it for her.

Anyway, be glad you won something. I never do!

Edited

Are there official rules for this? As I've been to loads of tombolas where dd has won alcohol. I've usually had to accept it though as an adult but they let anyone buy a ticket

Zilla1 · 29/09/2024 16:37

Forget it, Jake, it's tombola (Chinatown).

itsgettingweird · 29/09/2024 16:36

It's a tombola.

You bet the prize you win (if you win)

That's kinda the point 😂😂🙄

Theunamedcat · 29/09/2024 16:36

We won a large quantity of alcohol on a tombola once we asked if we could exchange and we were allowed because we are a tea total family 😂 plus having it on the table made more people want to play

MammaGisAF · 29/09/2024 16:35

LionMummy8 · 29/09/2024 14:40

The lady running the tombola was the deputy general manager.

Anyone else feel sorry for this employee? OP sounds like she’s gearing up to make a complaint. It’s a £1 spend on a tombola. It’s supposed to be fun. Chill out.

Tiredalwaystired · 29/09/2024 16:33

And if the next winning ticket on that bottle is a kid?and the next one?

Totally unreasonable. A tombola is exactly about random prizes. Take the wine from her and buy her some chocolates in lieu of her prize. It’s no wonder it’s hard work to get people to volunteer to run things like this with difficult people like you around.

Squeezetheday · 29/09/2024 16:30

Lmao when we used to go to events with a tombola back in the day, my parents encouraged us to pick the booze or chocolates 😂 obviously couldn’t drink but usually the other prizes were rubbish! Surely you can drink it OP?! Or give it to someone who will!

sharpclawedkitten · 29/09/2024 16:28

LionMummy8 · 29/09/2024 15:44

It was in a chain family carvery style pub.

Sorry I completely missed that, I thought it was a school thing!

Choochoo21 · 29/09/2024 16:18

I personally would have said that she would prefer X prize and to ask the person who wins it if they’d rather have wine instead.

There was no harm in you asking but they were within their rights to say no.

If I was them I would have probably just swapped it but kids are likely to be their main customer and so perhaps the more child friendly items on the table, the better.

They may think that if they do it for your DD they may have to do it for everyone too.

lightsandtunnels · 29/09/2024 16:15

YABU
It's obviously a charity stall or something and if they let one person swap the prize (even if it is a child) then it sets a precedent, surely.
I would have made a big fuss of her and say something like, "Oh Mummy/Daddy will love that! I'm sure they'll give you a treat that you would like in exchange." Then get her a little prize from the shop. She would love giving this to Daddy/Mummy/whoever and it teaches her the joy of giving a gift to someone!

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