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Partner won’t marry me

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Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 13:06

Partner simply refuses to marry me. He is divorced, has 2 kids. I have never been married, also have 2 kids.

Together for 5 years, lived together for 3. I’ve made it clear I want marriage and commitment, he has made it clear he doesn’t - states he only ever wanted to get married once and it didn’t work out

He also refuses to commit to buying a house together and states it is because he wants only his children to benefit from his estate when he dies. I contribute to his mortgage and when I have really pushed the ‘if you died tomorrow what would you expect?’ He has literally said he would want me to continue paying the entire mortgage and if/when I sell then the entire equity falls to his children - I have told him this will therefore leave me in a position where I will potentially be homeless and elderly. Also he has a good pension set up, again he would not want me to benefit from this in the event of his death.

So I’ve given him an ultimatum - I’ve told him that if there’s no marriage, no commitment in any way, house purchase etc - then I am leaving. I have also started looking at rentals/smaller houses I can buy (I have a small deposit and a good income, I actually earn more than him)

Please someone tell me I am not BU 😓

OP posts:
lololulu · 01/10/2024 17:20

lololulu · 01/10/2024 13:56

Lots of police men think they have all the power at home too.

Be careful when "showing him what he's missing."

Did you miss this post?

lololulu · 01/10/2024 17:19

What are you talking about?

You must have got me confused with someone else.

Hedgewitch123 · 01/10/2024 17:18

lololulu · 01/10/2024 17:16

@Hedgewitch123

I don't know how you can say that from the one question I asked. Projecting much!!

I have nothing to project but the stick op is getting sits very wrong with me. Have you read the poor woman's posts.? How she has been treated, how she's tried to be reasonable for years and thiis is straw that broke camels back?

Or just trying to kick a woman when down.

Women who act like you are part of the patriarchal problem.

You either have a very low Barr for yourself and for other women or are being a Doyle.

Either way I hope you raise your standards for yourself and for women in society.

This man was not offering her a fair life... its not defendable.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/10/2024 17:17

Nanny0gg · 01/10/2024 12:55

Careful with the winding up

You don't want him to turn nastier than he already is

I agree. The most dangerous time for a woman in a domestic situation, is when the break-up is happening. No matter if there has been violence before or not, it's always best to make as quick an exit as is possible with as little attention focused on you as possible.

Hedgewitch123 · 01/10/2024 17:16

lololulu · 01/10/2024 17:13

What

Trying go be tricksy with op... you know exactly "what".

What part of the deal he was proposing do you think is fair for a loving committed,equal relationship?

Try without being misogynistic and without defending men who are using women financially

lololulu · 01/10/2024 17:16

@Hedgewitch123

I don't know how you can say that from the one question I asked. Projecting much!!

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/10/2024 17:14

pikkumyy77 · 01/10/2024 12:25

Just a side note for the hard of reading: the man is in a potentially dangerous line of work. He could die at any time. (Hopefully not). He has made no arrangement fir his live in partner and her children other than allowing her to continue paying for the mortgage (the whole cost of the mortgage) so that his children can inherit the house. As she will not be his wife and inherit, or have any tie to the children, why would she not leave and pay her money towards her own property at that point? Why would any woman hang around in this fake widowed position?

Everyone complimenting him on how sensible he is not marrying the OP and how sensible his supposed “life interest” plan for the OP has failed to realize that marriage offered him protection that OP would stick around and share the burden and care for his children in the event he was injured or died. Now he gets nothing.

But, OP, don’t play games with him or try to make him regret your going. The british police have an absolutely horrendous reputation for domestic violence and misogyny . Just get out fast.

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THIS! All of this!

lololulu · 01/10/2024 17:13

What

Hedgewitch123 · 01/10/2024 17:12

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/10/2024 17:09

The fact that she is paying half of ALL the bills, while he maintains ownership, and the bills are likely more than it cost for her and two children to live and rent and eat. It is vastly unfair to her. He is getting the benefits without the cost. Add to that, SHE pays for treats, take-aways, and holidays means she is getting the VERY short end of the stick. Add to that, the value of her car, cooking, ALL the cleaning, laundry, childcare and everything else...he should be paying her. He doesn't even pay for car fuel. I mean JFCOAC!

Lololulu like to be misogynist sympathiser, can reason with women like that. From what ops has posted, how anyone can defend it is beyond me.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/10/2024 17:09

lololulu · 01/10/2024 11:26

Why do people keep saying she's paying his mortgage?

She's contributing but she's living there too.

The fact that she is paying half of ALL the bills, while he maintains ownership, and the bills are likely more than it cost for her and two children to live and rent and eat. It is vastly unfair to her. He is getting the benefits without the cost. Add to that, SHE pays for treats, take-aways, and holidays means she is getting the VERY short end of the stick. Add to that, the value of her car, cooking, ALL the cleaning, laundry, childcare and everything else...he should be paying her. He doesn't even pay for car fuel. I mean JFCOAC!

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/10/2024 17:03

Owly11 · 01/10/2024 14:34

@HomeTheatreSystem he has said to OP that it is in his will - see OPs update - a lifetime interest. If that's true it means she can live in it for the rest of her life. If he dies tomorrow that's potentially a very long time, for what is quite a short relationship. Totally legally enforceable. I think it's pretty generous. I wouldn't want my kids to have to wait 30, 40, 50 years for a short term partner to die before they got their inheritance when they could have it sooner and get themselves on the property ladder.

LOL! Yes, because I am sure those "children" could pay the ever rising mortgage, when their own "alive father" cannot manage it on his own.

It really isn't a "lifetime interest" when it is mortgaged, expensive and the dickhead expects the OP to pay the mortgage and all the other bills and then hand it all over to his kids.

How utterly idiotic!

catindahat · 01/10/2024 16:52

Leave with your head held high. No hatred, tho.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/10/2024 16:50

Boomer55 · 30/09/2024 17:36

He’s not stringing her along. He’s been clear he doesn’t want to marry her, and that his kids come first.🤷‍♀️

Yeah, he wants HIS kids to come first...on HER dime!

blueshoes · 01/10/2024 16:43

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 01/10/2024 15:05

People talking about the "lifetime interest" in the house need to make the distinction between what the OP's ex partner has told her is in his will, WHICH HE HAS NOT SHOWN HER, and what is actually in his will (if, indeed, he has made a will), and acknowledge that he could change the will at any time without informing the OP about it. I would also query why on earth he doesn't have life insurance in place to cover the mortgage for his children in the event of his death, and is effectively expecting the OP to provide it for them.

This

Lifetime interest is pie in the sky.

Salmoney · 01/10/2024 16:36

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/10/2024 15:45

Sounds like he might regret it now though.

I'm sure he'll find someone else willing to bank roll him, they always do.

Trixiefirecracker · 01/10/2024 16:22

Good luck. Good luck. Good luck!!!! Let us know. About the house. I have all my fingers and toes crossed for you! Xxx

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/10/2024 15:45

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 01/10/2024 14:49

To me, it sounds like the only time the dickhead ever wavered was when he thought he could get his paws on more of her money. He knew she wasn't money focused, but HE always was. His and hers is what he wanted.

Sounds like he might regret it now though.

Mugcake · 01/10/2024 15:44

Fingers crossed you get the property!

gamerchick · 01/10/2024 15:43

The tears are coming. It should give enough Ick to see you through the love bombing. Good luck OP.

IVbumble · 01/10/2024 15:41

He was hoping his sulk mode would draw you back in to make things alright again for him.

He thinks he knows you. He doesn't - but you certainly know him now.

Keep going OP - the only way from here is UP!

Abitofalark · 01/10/2024 15:40

Startinganew32 · 01/10/2024 15:27

I would too. They get snapped up so quickly and a single mum with kids won’t be at the top of the ideal tenant list. Try to sweet talk your way into an early viewing today if you can and offer to rent on the spot if you like it. Otherwise someone else will get it.

Yes but if there's a tenant occupying the house they have to give the minimum required notice and make arrangements for an agreed viewing time.

HomeTheatreSystem · 01/10/2024 15:39

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 01/10/2024 15:24

The OP wrote, amongst other things, at around 6.00am this morning:
"In terms of him expecting me to pay the mortgage on his death - he has said (but never proven I will add), that his Will states I have a lifetime interest in the property, and that I would be paying the mortgage to continue to live there - he said ‘you would be paying rent anyway’ - one I have always been clear on (as much as his view on marriage) is that I need to be an owner or joint owner of a property and actually the idiot has very clearly failed to realise he would have been in a far better financial position, with a better home for his children had he done that with me"

Thank you! So odd, I filtered OP's posts but somehow missed this even though I started from most recent and worked back til I reached the old ones I recognised.

Tae1 · 01/10/2024 15:39

Reluctantly agreeing to you leaving...WTF?
Does he think you were an indentured servant?
Twat.
I'll bet he is worried at the thought of parenting his children.
OP, many is the man who has proposed rather than face childcare.
Don't be that mug again.

Abitofalark · 01/10/2024 15:31

Everythingwillbeokk · 01/10/2024 14:57

And so it begins…… I think he is starting to panic. I’ve had a message from him, he’s reluctantly agreeing for me to leave, but wants to talk because he’s stressed at work and this isn’t helping him.

I know - my heart bleeds too…..

On a further note ladies - the house is still available!! I’m going viewing later this week. Small steps.

He still thinks he's in control. He's stressed at work and at home. It's not good. I can't help thinking this will put more pressure on you and given the circumstances, it would be better for you to be out of there as soon as possible, even if it means having to camp at mum's or find a short-term place through friends or contacts. Which area of the country are you in - there might be people here or on facebook who could give you leads to something local?

Hedgewitch123 · 01/10/2024 15:30

Startinganew32 · 01/10/2024 15:26

Agree, he’s not being generous in the slightest. He’s leaving her high and dry while she finances an asset he couldn’t finance on his own. In what world is that fair? She’s supposed to be a family member if they live together and she cares for his children. Yet this selfish fuck thinks it’s fine for his life partner to pay and pay but get nothing while he and his kids sit back and watch the coins roll in. This is a demonstration of how some people think they are unselfish for caring about their own children but are happy to fuck others over in the process. That’s not unselfishness- it’s just narcissism transferred to benefiting your children rather than just yourself.

Hopefully no other woman will be wanting to move in with this catch. Can’t say I’d be enticed really.

On this thread some people have really low bar as think she is on to a good thing. It's unbelievable some of the responses, they've made me really mad on behalf of op haha. She seems super resilient, resourceful and hopefully will be like water off a ducks back though.

There seems to be men trickling in with the misogyny too.

""ACCEPT THE BREADCRUMBS I OFFER WOMAN. IT IS SAGOOD DEAL TO PROVIDE FOR ME AND MY CHILDREN IN ALL WAYS, FUNDING MY CAR, MY MORTGAGE AND PAYING MY BILLS. DOING ALL COOKING AND CLEANING. WHILST LEAVING YOU WITH NO STABILITY. NOR YOUR CHILDREN. WHY ARENT YOU WORSHIPPING ME"

What is wrong with some of these people on this thread.

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