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Partner won’t marry me

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Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 13:06

Partner simply refuses to marry me. He is divorced, has 2 kids. I have never been married, also have 2 kids.

Together for 5 years, lived together for 3. I’ve made it clear I want marriage and commitment, he has made it clear he doesn’t - states he only ever wanted to get married once and it didn’t work out

He also refuses to commit to buying a house together and states it is because he wants only his children to benefit from his estate when he dies. I contribute to his mortgage and when I have really pushed the ‘if you died tomorrow what would you expect?’ He has literally said he would want me to continue paying the entire mortgage and if/when I sell then the entire equity falls to his children - I have told him this will therefore leave me in a position where I will potentially be homeless and elderly. Also he has a good pension set up, again he would not want me to benefit from this in the event of his death.

So I’ve given him an ultimatum - I’ve told him that if there’s no marriage, no commitment in any way, house purchase etc - then I am leaving. I have also started looking at rentals/smaller houses I can buy (I have a small deposit and a good income, I actually earn more than him)

Please someone tell me I am not BU 😓

OP posts:
Day99 · 02/10/2024 19:46

I've been reading your story, and your story is a great example how important it is for women to be financially independent. Good luck with everything!

RT5463 · 02/10/2024 19:44

RT5463 · 02/10/2024 19:39

I don’t think that either of you are being unreasonable, you just want different things. I’d stop contributing to his mortgage though and if you can’t find a compromise on the commitment then I’d leave.

Sorry, just noticed that you are! Good for you for being so strong.

RT5463 · 02/10/2024 19:39

I don’t think that either of you are being unreasonable, you just want different things. I’d stop contributing to his mortgage though and if you can’t find a compromise on the commitment then I’d leave.

Tae1 · 02/10/2024 19:33

Absolutely agree with every negative he spiuts, and confirm that it is why it is better you split asap.

I wouldn't waste any energy explaining shit to him.

Calm, measured, simply repeating that splitting is best for everyone, asap.

LePetitMaman · 02/10/2024 19:25

Everythingwillbeokk · 02/10/2024 18:54

He will go down the ‘youre damaged’ route - yes I am. I’ve been emotionally, mentally and financially abused. I’m hurt. I probably won’t ever trust anyone again. I’m broken - but I’ve got my kids, I’ve got my team, I don’t need to let anyone in again unless they are good for us.

"Well, sure, I'm damaged, but I'm not with you anymore pal, and I'm very at peace with that. You take care you thundering poncing fucknuckle dear"

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 02/10/2024 19:02

I'd make sure the estate agent is real, and it's not a scam, especially if you've not heard of them before. They've not asked for a holding deposit to reserve it for you, hopefully!
Otherwise I'm glad you are starting to get those ducks into a row and sound more positive.

Everythingwillbeokk · 02/10/2024 18:54

CowTown · 02/10/2024 18:43

Good for you, OP. He’s likely shitting himself because his refusal to commit has come to roost and he’s about to lose his access to (your) family car, his holidays (paid for by you), his mortgage topper-upper (you), and the future security you provided in the instance of his death, by paying his mortgage in full until his kids are old enough to inherit the property (and you walk away with 0). He’s taking the absolute piss and he knows it; his actions mean that he now must sell a home that he cannot afford without a partner. I’m going to bet money that he will try every excuse under the sun this weekend—he’s sorry; this is your fault; you’re too old/ugly/[insert insult here] to ever meet another catch as good as him; the kids will be sad; etc etc etc… Just hold your ground and reply with a simple, “Our values don’t align and it’s time for us both to move on.” On repeat.

He will go down the ‘youre damaged’ route - yes I am. I’ve been emotionally, mentally and financially abused. I’m hurt. I probably won’t ever trust anyone again. I’m broken - but I’ve got my kids, I’ve got my team, I don’t need to let anyone in again unless they are good for us.

OP posts:
Everythingwillbeokk · 02/10/2024 18:49

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/10/2024 18:39

I was driving home from work this afternoon and wondered how you had been today, so thank you for the update.
Good news re the filing cabinet box - just make sure he doesn't access your car keys at all.
and my fingers are tightly crossed re the rental 1. I hope you like it and 2. I hope you get it if you like it.
Do you know when it is available from ?

Thank you! It’s available immediately! Honestly it’s not usually what I’d go for but I’m looking at it as temporary. It’s also got a driveway and a garage for the kids bikes and bits of things we need to store. I’m doing really well at work at the moment, my earnings are good. I feel in such a fortunate position - there’s lots of ladies who go through this who aren’t as fortunate. If I keep going like I can buy me and the kids a home in the next 12 months and have a more than decent deposit for it. The rent isn’t much more than what I’d expect to be paying on a mortgage so I don’t feel like it’s expensive. I can still save money each month. There’s light at the end of the tunnel.

OP posts:
CowTown · 02/10/2024 18:43

Good for you, OP. He’s likely shitting himself because his refusal to commit has come to roost and he’s about to lose his access to (your) family car, his holidays (paid for by you), his mortgage topper-upper (you), and the future security you provided in the instance of his death, by paying his mortgage in full until his kids are old enough to inherit the property (and you walk away with 0). He’s taking the absolute piss and he knows it; his actions mean that he now must sell a home that he cannot afford without a partner. I’m going to bet money that he will try every excuse under the sun this weekend—he’s sorry; this is your fault; you’re too old/ugly/[insert insult here] to ever meet another catch as good as him; the kids will be sad; etc etc etc… Just hold your ground and reply with a simple, “Our values don’t align and it’s time for us both to move on.” On repeat.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/10/2024 18:39

I was driving home from work this afternoon and wondered how you had been today, so thank you for the update.
Good news re the filing cabinet box - just make sure he doesn't access your car keys at all.
and my fingers are tightly crossed re the rental 1. I hope you like it and 2. I hope you get it if you like it.
Do you know when it is available from ?

AcrossthePond55 · 02/10/2024 18:34

@Everythingwillbeokk

It's funny/not funny how emotional upheaval can drain our energy sometimes even more that physical activity, isn't it? Nap all you want, it's restorative.

I think he thinks you've already calmed down and are pretty much back in your box. Prepare on Saturday for all anything from criticism and recriminations to sorts of promises, possibly even a proposal, to ensure the lid is snapped shut. Just remember that he is a liar and is basically interested in keeping you there to insure his (and his DC) financial future. And that you are entitled to shut down the discussion and/or walk away at any time. You can control the narrative, should you choose.

And if by some chance his 'narrative' ends up being that a split is 'his idea', just roll with it and don't bother to argue. Your goal of getting out will still be accomplished and if he needs to preserve his frail male ego, who really cares?

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/10/2024 18:28

Good for you for taking time for food, self-care and rest. I really hope the house works out.

Just play along, let him be lulled into a false sense of security so that he doesn't take any action to thwart you in coming days. He'll be thinking that he's going to talk you round this weekend. Let him think that for now. Wait until you have your next home/next steps secured.

Good luck.

Everythingwillbeokk · 02/10/2024 18:25

Just an update all to let you know today hasn’t been quite as thoroughly painful as I expected. I am ok. Not thriving, the pain is still in my chest, I still want to cry.

I was so tired this morning so I decided to have a McDs breakfast after the school run then sit on the sofa and chill watching a series and have a bit of a snooze. Actually the first meal I’ve eaten since Saturday. He was in the same room working albeit not next to me. I probably showed a little bit of how bad I’m feeling right now by having a nap, but I needed to rest. Then I’ve worked and sorted kids this afternoon.

Had to change house viewing to Friday as I have a priority work meeting tomorrow and I need to prioritise earning at the moment - it’s fine as there’s no other viewings on the house at the moment apparently. I also had to hunt it out - it’s only on zoopla (in all of my years I don’t think ive ever looked on zoopla before) and I’ll be really honest - I have never heard of the estate agents before yet it’s literally in my local area. Maybe this is a good thing for me - no major competition. Also I’ve already mentioned I have a dog and they seem ok with this - which is great because we had to practically smuggle and hide her in our old rental like a Mexican drug lord!!!

Hes actually starting to act quite ‘normal’ - I think he thinks I’ll change my mind. I have agreed - by his request - to talk to him over the weekend when the children are not here - I won’t risk an argument with children in the house (we have traditionally never been shouty when we’ve argued but you never know how someone else might behave do you) - but from my perspective it’s so I can clearly and very calmly discuss all the reasons we are splitting up - I’ve actually done a bullet pointed list. I might even print and laminate it for him!

For now though I’ve moved my filing cabinet box with all the passports and paperwork we need into my boot. I’ll deposit this somewhere else as soon as I can.

OP posts:
PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/10/2024 17:39

How has your day been @Everythingwillbeokk ?

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 02/10/2024 17:22

Seeingadistance · 02/10/2024 13:59

And yet, until a couple of days ago, the OP was desperate to get married to him. She proposed, by way of an ultimatum (marry me or else! and they say that romance is dead!), and he declined - which given the terms of her ultimatum, meant that she had to leave.

It can take a shock to see things clearly. I think that OP now has his measure. She is looking back over their lives together and is perhaps now realising how she has settled for an idea of him rather than the man himself.

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/10/2024 14:56

Fraaahnces · 02/10/2024 12:34

Honestly, this guy’s a cop and a misogynist at that. I would be taking that car to a mechanic and asking them to check for tags asap. I would also be taking my phone to a phone repair shop and asking them to check for bugs too.

Yes.

Seeingadistance · 02/10/2024 13:59

Mix56 · 01/10/2024 14:54

actually, he sounds like a complete pig. You pay for the holiday, but never allowed a window seat is a tiny example, but speaks volumes.

And yet, until a couple of days ago, the OP was desperate to get married to him. She proposed, by way of an ultimatum (marry me or else! and they say that romance is dead!), and he declined - which given the terms of her ultimatum, meant that she had to leave.

SLeanne · 02/10/2024 12:48

One foot in, one foot out! He has all the benefits that come with being in a relationship with none of the commitment. I hate to say it but he sounds like one of those men who is 'waiting for a better offer'. Move on and find someone who can't wait to commit properly if that's what you want.

deeahgwitch · 02/10/2024 12:43

I haven't ..."watched too many crime dramas" but I have read and seen of many court cases in the media and threads on here where women have been tracked by vindictive partners, ex partners or soon to be ex partners, @Blossomtoes and @Salmoney

Just be cautious as this is the worst time for women, danger wise when they decide to leave an abusive relationship, be it physical, mental, emotional or financial abuse.

Fraaahnces · 02/10/2024 12:37

Oh, and when you leave, Make sure you don’t give him any money in cash. I’d rather hope you just leave him in the lurch. If any utilities are in your name you just transfer them straight to your new place. Don’t give him notice. That way you “owe” him nothing and he has to set up new accounts.

Fraaahnces · 02/10/2024 12:34

Honestly, this guy’s a cop and a misogynist at that. I would be taking that car to a mechanic and asking them to check for tags asap. I would also be taking my phone to a phone repair shop and asking them to check for bugs too.

pikkumyy77 · 02/10/2024 12:10

Do what is safe but don’t pussyfoot around. Just be matter of fact.

echt · 02/10/2024 09:48

BIossomtoes · 02/10/2024 08:47

You’ve watched too many crime dramas.

On the other hand, the OP's "D" P has been open about the hard time he'll be giving her, spoken of "allowing" her to leave and unexpectedly taken a WFH day when his employers don't want this.

Salmoney · 02/10/2024 08:50

BIossomtoes · 02/10/2024 08:47

You’ve watched too many crime dramas.

Yeah I think there's a lot of ridiculousness now to be fair that's not helping things one iota.

BIossomtoes · 02/10/2024 08:47

deeahgwitch · 02/10/2024 08:41

He could have put an airtag in your car so won't ned to follow you if he wants to know where the rental is.

You’ve watched too many crime dramas.

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