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Partner won’t marry me

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Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 13:06

Partner simply refuses to marry me. He is divorced, has 2 kids. I have never been married, also have 2 kids.

Together for 5 years, lived together for 3. I’ve made it clear I want marriage and commitment, he has made it clear he doesn’t - states he only ever wanted to get married once and it didn’t work out

He also refuses to commit to buying a house together and states it is because he wants only his children to benefit from his estate when he dies. I contribute to his mortgage and when I have really pushed the ‘if you died tomorrow what would you expect?’ He has literally said he would want me to continue paying the entire mortgage and if/when I sell then the entire equity falls to his children - I have told him this will therefore leave me in a position where I will potentially be homeless and elderly. Also he has a good pension set up, again he would not want me to benefit from this in the event of his death.

So I’ve given him an ultimatum - I’ve told him that if there’s no marriage, no commitment in any way, house purchase etc - then I am leaving. I have also started looking at rentals/smaller houses I can buy (I have a small deposit and a good income, I actually earn more than him)

Please someone tell me I am not BU 😓

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Saintmariesleuth · 29/09/2024 14:28

I never thought you were being unreasonable initially OP- but following your updates, I think you have had a lucky escape!

You don't sound at all compatible and it sounds like to domestic drudge would fall unfairly on your shoulders, with you always at a financial disadvantage.

If it helps your resolve- I think you are right leave. I can't see a good reason here to stay actually

GuestFeatu · 29/09/2024 14:28

Choochoo21 · 29/09/2024 14:24

My friend has recently had her partner move in with her.

She’s been married twice before and has 4 kids.

She doesn’t want him on the mortgage as she’s worked and saved hard to get it by herself.

He’s refusing to pay anything towards the mortgage unless his name goes on it.

I’ve told her that he doesn’t get to live there rent free.
They both get a similar wage but she’s paying half of the bills and all of the mortgage, whilst all he is paying for is half of the bills.

Posters on here would be saying that he’s right for doing that but I disagree.

I think he’s got it cushy and she should be asking him for rent.
We would ask our adult children to contribute to rent, so why not our adult partners.

I disagree that OP should pay his mortgage after he dies long term but I think it would benefit her to be allowed to live there for a year or so in that situation.

But this relationship is simply not compatible anyway, so the finer details don’t really matter.

You don't ask your adult partner to pay you rent when they are living in your asset. That's not how a relationship should work. You either share the asset and pay into it jointly or one person maintains their asset and the other builds their own savings. Charging a partner rent (above their share of the running costs) is crappy.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/09/2024 14:27

@GuestFeatu I agree. These situations can be like a boiling frog in a saucepan they happen gradually.

Cosyblankets · 29/09/2024 14:27

If he has kids and a mortgage he should have life insurance to pay it off if he dies not some mug of a partner

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/09/2024 14:26

Choochoo21 · 29/09/2024 14:24

My friend has recently had her partner move in with her.

She’s been married twice before and has 4 kids.

She doesn’t want him on the mortgage as she’s worked and saved hard to get it by herself.

He’s refusing to pay anything towards the mortgage unless his name goes on it.

I’ve told her that he doesn’t get to live there rent free.
They both get a similar wage but she’s paying half of the bills and all of the mortgage, whilst all he is paying for is half of the bills.

Posters on here would be saying that he’s right for doing that but I disagree.

I think he’s got it cushy and she should be asking him for rent.
We would ask our adult children to contribute to rent, so why not our adult partners.

I disagree that OP should pay his mortgage after he dies long term but I think it would benefit her to be allowed to live there for a year or so in that situation.

But this relationship is simply not compatible anyway, so the finer details don’t really matter.

Agreed. She can ask him for rent. Or to pay for a larger proportion of food and the increase in council tax bill etc. What she shouldn’t do is ask for half the mortgage to be paid by him.

MSLRT · 29/09/2024 14:26

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 14:14

I have said to him that I feel like he has benefitted greatly from my side of the commitment. I WFH a lot and as a result I do ALL of the housework. He actually stated that he feels angry if he gets home and the housework is not done - I have made it clear that I WORK from home, I am not just at home, I’m working and therefore I am not just a housemaid.

The marriage side I have always made it clear that I wanted marriage, yes he has said he didn’t but has said around a year ago he is warming to the idea. We discussed selling his house and buying somewhere new a month or so ago - great I thought - finally getting some commitment. Then he said as I don’t have the exact same figure in my savings as the equity on his property that he won’t be buying with me - despite me saying he can ringfence his deposit.

He sounds a complete and utter knob. Getting annoyed if he gets home and you haven't done all the housework! What century does he think he is living in. Please walk away from this man. You are worth more than this.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/09/2024 14:26

@Choochoo21 I think in your friends situation her boyfriend should also be paying half the mortgage interest. As that's the rent part. But not the equity she's repaying- the money he saves he should be free to make his own investment with.

GuestFeatu · 29/09/2024 14:26

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 14:14

I have said to him that I feel like he has benefitted greatly from my side of the commitment. I WFH a lot and as a result I do ALL of the housework. He actually stated that he feels angry if he gets home and the housework is not done - I have made it clear that I WORK from home, I am not just at home, I’m working and therefore I am not just a housemaid.

The marriage side I have always made it clear that I wanted marriage, yes he has said he didn’t but has said around a year ago he is warming to the idea. We discussed selling his house and buying somewhere new a month or so ago - great I thought - finally getting some commitment. Then he said as I don’t have the exact same figure in my savings as the equity on his property that he won’t be buying with me - despite me saying he can ringfence his deposit.

I'm sorry to be harsh but what the hell got into you? You're paying someone else's mortgage and cleaning his house and putting up with his shitty moods while begging for marriage - it's humiliating. I'm glad you're getting out of there, please get some therapy to work out why you did that in the first place.

Newoldnameplease · 29/09/2024 14:25

My dad didn't want to marry the woman he met after he and my mum separated - his choice, but she was very upset by it.
He owned the house they lived in outright, but he did leave a portion of the house value to her in his will, (which is fair enough) and it allowed her to buy her own place after he died.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 14:25

YaWeeFurryBastard · 29/09/2024 14:02

Tbh I don’t think there’s any point in ultimatums when the other person has made it abundantly clear that they are not interested in doing what the OP wants. Ultimatums are pointless, far better to just leave when you realise you’re not compatible, preferably way in advance of the point you’ve moved your kids in!

You're probably not wrong, YaWeeFurryBastard, though maybe OP felt she wanted to give it one last try?

I'm wondering if you've posted about this before, @Everythingwillbeokk?
It's not a unique situation but the details are uncannily similar to a previous one, the only difference being that the idea of you paying for the house if he died has now emerged

Not that it really matters though; all that counts is that this isn't working and that you'll need to look elsewhere for the commitment you want, and I wish you only the best with it

Choochoo21 · 29/09/2024 14:24

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/09/2024 14:17

And also, op has a deposit and a high income. If she bought a house and invited her boyfriend and his kids to move in, I doubt he'd be willing to pay her 'rent' instead of building equity in the home he lives.

My friend has recently had her partner move in with her.

She’s been married twice before and has 4 kids.

She doesn’t want him on the mortgage as she’s worked and saved hard to get it by herself.

He’s refusing to pay anything towards the mortgage unless his name goes on it.

I’ve told her that he doesn’t get to live there rent free.
They both get a similar wage but she’s paying half of the bills and all of the mortgage, whilst all he is paying for is half of the bills.

Posters on here would be saying that he’s right for doing that but I disagree.

I think he’s got it cushy and she should be asking him for rent.
We would ask our adult children to contribute to rent, so why not our adult partners.

I disagree that OP should pay his mortgage after he dies long term but I think it would benefit her to be allowed to live there for a year or so in that situation.

But this relationship is simply not compatible anyway, so the finer details don’t really matter.

yeesh · 29/09/2024 14:24

What a cunt he is

Purspectiveplease · 29/09/2024 14:24

The more you update the more it sounds like this man does not even like you. You are convenient to him (doing all of the housework, providing financial security with your higher income, building up his assets) but he obviously does not love you. It sounds like he was only pretending to be nice to you, if he feels that is something he should now withdraw. Move out as soon as you can and focus on building your own security for you and your children.

RedHelenB · 29/09/2024 14:23

Ywbuto move into his house in the first place as you wanted different things. Move out and then decide if you want to carry on as bf/gf or look for another relationship that might end with marriage.

LushLemonTart · 29/09/2024 14:23

honeybeetheoneandonly · 29/09/2024 14:21

I'm just absolutely shocked that you think him not wanting to marry you is the problem.

I know 🙈

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 29/09/2024 14:23

'Hes warming to the idea of marriage '. Aye, right. As I said up thread, he's got an inkling you are backing away and it was an attempt to keep you sweet. He has no intention of marrying you and you will put money into his house for his children while yours could be homeless alongside you. Get out now and have your own house. He can do his own housework.

stayathomer · 29/09/2024 14:23

I’m so sorry op but yanbu. Any human being deserves more than that x

Blueberry911 · 29/09/2024 14:22

He has literally said he would want me to continue paying the entire mortgage and if/when I sell then the entire equity falls to his children

You'd be stupid to stay with him if that's what he thinks of you, to be blunt.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 29/09/2024 14:21

You must protect yourself financially. I don't understand why he wont buy a house with you as long as he has same or more equity. You could buy as unequal partners if necessary, e.g. him 60%, you 40%. You could instead buy a rental property instead of investing in his mortgage.

The issue is that if he died tomorrow, he's prepared to leave you homeless, which is not right. You should have a lifetime interest (in his will) and then passes to his children.

There was a similar thread a couple of months ago, very rich chaperoning everything to ex wife. She left, if he won't compromise then you should too.

honeybeetheoneandonly · 29/09/2024 14:21

I'm just absolutely shocked that you think him not wanting to marry you is the problem.

BluesBrotherz · 29/09/2024 14:21

How much money have u paid into his mortgage? I think he’s been using you to help his finances.

I’d tell him nothing. You owe this callous, emotionally vacant dickhead nothing. It’s one thing to not to want to get married, it’s another to throw you and your DC under a bus.

Keep your cards close to your chest. Smile and don’t mention it again. Let him think everything’s ok. Meanwhile get your ducks in order, including an appointment to a solicitor. Can you get evidence that you’ve been paying his mortgage?

If so, leave and as you do leave him a parting gift saying you’ve consulted a solicitor and you will be making a claim on his property, or he can pay you the amount you are owed £XK or whatever. Let’s see how he feels when his behaviour comes back to bite him on the arse.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/09/2024 14:21

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/09/2024 14:14

As you’ve contributed towards his mortgage for 3 years, you may be able to make some kind of claim. 2 can play at difficult op. Horrible man.

Yes I think you should seek legal advice about this.

IsleOfPenguinBollards · 29/09/2024 14:20

Wow! What an absolute prick he is. I wouldn’t lift a finger for him again until I moved out.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/09/2024 14:20

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 14:14

I have said to him that I feel like he has benefitted greatly from my side of the commitment. I WFH a lot and as a result I do ALL of the housework. He actually stated that he feels angry if he gets home and the housework is not done - I have made it clear that I WORK from home, I am not just at home, I’m working and therefore I am not just a housemaid.

The marriage side I have always made it clear that I wanted marriage, yes he has said he didn’t but has said around a year ago he is warming to the idea. We discussed selling his house and buying somewhere new a month or so ago - great I thought - finally getting some commitment. Then he said as I don’t have the exact same figure in my savings as the equity on his property that he won’t be buying with me - despite me saying he can ringfence his deposit.

Do not lift a finger for him or his kids now let their washing pile up let him cook his own food

Codlingmoths · 29/09/2024 14:19

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 14:14

I have said to him that I feel like he has benefitted greatly from my side of the commitment. I WFH a lot and as a result I do ALL of the housework. He actually stated that he feels angry if he gets home and the housework is not done - I have made it clear that I WORK from home, I am not just at home, I’m working and therefore I am not just a housemaid.

The marriage side I have always made it clear that I wanted marriage, yes he has said he didn’t but has said around a year ago he is warming to the idea. We discussed selling his house and buying somewhere new a month or so ago - great I thought - finally getting some commitment. Then he said as I don’t have the exact same figure in my savings as the equity on his property that he won’t be buying with me - despite me saying he can ringfence his deposit.

Leave leave leave leave. Get yourself a place and every day think ‘he’s going to have to do his own cleaning ha FUCK HIM’

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