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Partner won’t marry me

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Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 13:06

Partner simply refuses to marry me. He is divorced, has 2 kids. I have never been married, also have 2 kids.

Together for 5 years, lived together for 3. I’ve made it clear I want marriage and commitment, he has made it clear he doesn’t - states he only ever wanted to get married once and it didn’t work out

He also refuses to commit to buying a house together and states it is because he wants only his children to benefit from his estate when he dies. I contribute to his mortgage and when I have really pushed the ‘if you died tomorrow what would you expect?’ He has literally said he would want me to continue paying the entire mortgage and if/when I sell then the entire equity falls to his children - I have told him this will therefore leave me in a position where I will potentially be homeless and elderly. Also he has a good pension set up, again he would not want me to benefit from this in the event of his death.

So I’ve given him an ultimatum - I’ve told him that if there’s no marriage, no commitment in any way, house purchase etc - then I am leaving. I have also started looking at rentals/smaller houses I can buy (I have a small deposit and a good income, I actually earn more than him)

Please someone tell me I am not BU 😓

OP posts:
blueshoes · 01/10/2024 12:24

GabriellaMontez · 01/10/2024 11:02

The crazy/frustrating thing OP, is that there are so many ways he could have agreed to a fairer arrangement, where everyone is a winner.

For example ring fencing deposits etc as you suggested.

Either he's a bit stupid, or he thinks you are. And it's him and his children who've lost out.

Good luck with the rental.

Yes, he is that stupid.

I suspect he let his misogynistic rage at OP not being willing to engage in financial self-harm to her/dcs' detriment and to his/his dc' advantage get the better of him. Imagine a woman actually being able to think logically, having proper boundaries to remove her counterintuitive financial support and escape his clutches without begging him to change his mind.

More fool him. Lucky escape for OP.

Tae1 · 01/10/2024 12:23

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/10/2024 09:42

Good luck with the house OP!
As for him and his finances, well, I find it very strange that he put you under so much pressure while he is living in a house he can’t afford with no savings. So all the stuff about providing for his kids? He’s going to have to step up now.
We are all hoping that house is yours.
And well done on doing your tan what a woman ✔️✔️✔️

Just another nasty little prick that thought he had a woman on the back foot and could treat her like an appliance.

He's really dim actually. Just that, dim.

OP sounds awesome.
There is nothing as satisfying as taking control and taking the wind out of the sails of a presumptuous man.

Fraaahnces · 01/10/2024 12:09

You are all kinds of fabulous! May I recommend also getting a mani-pedi and buy yourself a new outfit just to give him the opportunity to tell you you’re wasting money? I do hope you’re just cooking for the kids and yourself now and all laundry a-la Plod has ceased…

Pimlicopolly · 01/10/2024 11:56

Glad you are deciding to leave . It’s brave step and scary but ultimately worth it . You look after yourself and next time you meet a man set your expectation out at the get go so you don’t have your time wasted There are plenty of men out there who do want marriage and commitment

Abitofalark · 01/10/2024 11:53

What does he do with his money that he has no savings, considering that you pay the larger share of mortgage, cook, clean, shop, manage the household, provide car and holidays and look after the children and he has a steady job with reliable income that with perks and overtime or shift work allowances, must be fairly decent?

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 01/10/2024 11:44

He sounds a bit stupid tbh
Glad you're getting rid

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 11:34

lololulu · 01/10/2024 11:26

Why do people keep saying she's paying his mortgage?

She's contributing but she's living there too.

Because he’s expecting her to keep paying half the mortgage (as well as his holidays, shared car and treats for his dc) for the next 20 years or whatever and yet not have any share in the house.

BIossomtoes · 01/10/2024 11:31

lololulu · 01/10/2024 11:26

Why do people keep saying she's paying his mortgage?

She's contributing but she's living there too.

Because she is. She’s also providing him with a free car and holidays.

lololulu · 01/10/2024 11:26

Why do people keep saying she's paying his mortgage?

She's contributing but she's living there too.

Eddielizzard · 01/10/2024 11:08

He absolutely deserves everything he's got coming to him.

Sorry if I've missed this, but do his DC live with you? In which case it will be an awful shock for them.

GabriellaMontez · 01/10/2024 11:02

The crazy/frustrating thing OP, is that there are so many ways he could have agreed to a fairer arrangement, where everyone is a winner.

For example ring fencing deposits etc as you suggested.

Either he's a bit stupid, or he thinks you are. And it's him and his children who've lost out.

Good luck with the rental.

GabriellaMontez · 01/10/2024 10:58

Owly11 · 01/10/2024 09:52

So you have a lifetime interest in his property. That's quite a big difference from what you initially said, and demonstrates that you misunderstood the situation. Will you update your view of him in light of that? In my view he is being pretty generous. I am not sure why you think he should give you his money, especially as you are keen to let us know that you have more money than him. He has children and they should inherit. He is not leaving you high and dry if he dies, he is making sure you are looked after for life. All he is ensuring is that when you die his kids get his money, which is what any sensible father would do. Keeping finances separate is a completely reasonable path to take when both parties have kids from before the relationship.

How is he generous?

Generous in letting the op contribute to his mortgage (that he cant afford without her)?

In letting her live there and do most of his domestic tasks?

The only person giving anyone any money, is the op to him.

Soundslikemystory · 01/10/2024 10:37

Kendodd · 29/09/2024 13:15

He's told you were you stand. You can't complain that he's strung you along or anything, he's been completely clear. I wouldn't bother with the ultimatum, I'd just get your ducks in a row and leave.

totally agree with this

get yourself sorted and move on. You’ve wasted more than enough time with someone that has different values to you.
Look for exactly what you want.

desparateidiot · 01/10/2024 10:18

you are paying into a mortgage that your children are not going to see a penny of, just his - this is not fair, and if it's his house and he died, then will his children let you still live in it or will they want you out straight away. You need to seek legal advise and set something in place or you are essentially providing for his children and not your own

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 09:58

Owly11 · 01/10/2024 09:52

So you have a lifetime interest in his property. That's quite a big difference from what you initially said, and demonstrates that you misunderstood the situation. Will you update your view of him in light of that? In my view he is being pretty generous. I am not sure why you think he should give you his money, especially as you are keen to let us know that you have more money than him. He has children and they should inherit. He is not leaving you high and dry if he dies, he is making sure you are looked after for life. All he is ensuring is that when you die his kids get his money, which is what any sensible father would do. Keeping finances separate is a completely reasonable path to take when both parties have kids from before the relationship.

She doesn’t have a lifetime interest, this is a carrot he’s throwing at her.

He might live for another 20 years and OP would have paid half the mortgage by then and still be entitled to nothing.

And as Historian says, he can withdraw it any time. It offers OP zero security.

She is better off leaving the twat and buying her own place.

Will you update your view of him in light of that?

You and others seem really invested in OP paying off this man’s mortgage..

TheHistorian · 01/10/2024 09:56

A lifetime interest or deed of trust is put in a will and can be changed at any time. He could do it without her knowing and she could end up elderly and homeless.

Owly11 · 01/10/2024 09:52

So you have a lifetime interest in his property. That's quite a big difference from what you initially said, and demonstrates that you misunderstood the situation. Will you update your view of him in light of that? In my view he is being pretty generous. I am not sure why you think he should give you his money, especially as you are keen to let us know that you have more money than him. He has children and they should inherit. He is not leaving you high and dry if he dies, he is making sure you are looked after for life. All he is ensuring is that when you die his kids get his money, which is what any sensible father would do. Keeping finances separate is a completely reasonable path to take when both parties have kids from before the relationship.

StopGo · 01/10/2024 09:51

Everythingwillbeokk · 01/10/2024 08:51

Do you mean by someone else? Do you think? I hadn’t considered this as an angle

Yes, sadly I do mean by someone else.

Choochoo21 · 01/10/2024 09:46

Good luck with the new home OP 💐 it sounds like your life is already moving on in a good way!

This relationship sounds like it hadn’t been working for a while and so it’s a good thing he didn’t want to marry you (even if it may not feel like it right now).

Its great that he puts his kids first but there’s a way to do that without making other people like shit.

I feel sorry for your kids in this, as they seem to be the bottom of the pile in everything.
He puts himself and kids before you and your kids and you put him before your kids.
It will be nice for them to have their own home.

Salmoney · 01/10/2024 09:46

Everythingwillbeokk · 01/10/2024 09:25

Kids at school, im in the house alone. Having a coffee, got a few work tasks to do and the estate agents opens at 9.30am.

My hair is washed, Ive false tanned, and I’ll make myself look more polished by the time he is home. I’ve also for the last couple of weeks been on a diet (for me as I actually couldn’t do my jeans up!) and I’ve lost just over half a stone now. I know I’m looking really good. I know the better he thinks I’m doing, the more it is going to hurt him. I might even join the gym I’ve been threatening to go to - wind him up well in advance. I’m remaining my usual self with the kids, I gave him a cheery goodbye and have a nice day when he was leaving for work this morning. I think he thinks I’m just going to stay now and be a mug…..

Im actually now more determined than ever that by the time I leave, suddenly and without warning that he will be heartbroken and utterly shit his pants. He’s mentally abused me with his actions - 2 can play at that game.

Honestly don't even bother playing games, don't lower yourself. Go to the gym for yourself, not for an awful man who probably won't care anyway. Same with planning to leave, if he doesn't react heartbroken as you want him to you'll be upset by it. You're better than that.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/10/2024 09:42

Good luck with the house OP!
As for him and his finances, well, I find it very strange that he put you under so much pressure while he is living in a house he can’t afford with no savings. So all the stuff about providing for his kids? He’s going to have to step up now.
We are all hoping that house is yours.
And well done on doing your tan what a woman ✔️✔️✔️

Hyperbowl · 01/10/2024 09:41

Sounds like you’re handling it tremendously well OP. Well done on losing that half a stone that’s a great achievement. Kill him with kindness and then when you’re ready you can break away from him in your financially secured life looking absolutely fabulous and leave him where all self centred, arrogant dickheads like him deserve to be - struggling to pay his mortgage and living like a slob. He could have had a wonderful life with a wonderful partner for the rest of his days but his greed and selfish nature has lost it for him but you always deserved so much better and sometimes this is the universe telling us we need to make that leap forward to get the things that match with our worth. It’s obviously very emotionally taxing for you at present but you are allowed to feel more than just a little bit smug. You will come out on top and be winning at life in the long run - you just have to hold onto that thought and allow it to guide you through these tough times.

Silvers11 · 01/10/2024 09:37

Good luck about the rental OP. I hope you get it

Everythingwillbeokk · 01/10/2024 09:25

Kids at school, im in the house alone. Having a coffee, got a few work tasks to do and the estate agents opens at 9.30am.

My hair is washed, Ive false tanned, and I’ll make myself look more polished by the time he is home. I’ve also for the last couple of weeks been on a diet (for me as I actually couldn’t do my jeans up!) and I’ve lost just over half a stone now. I know I’m looking really good. I know the better he thinks I’m doing, the more it is going to hurt him. I might even join the gym I’ve been threatening to go to - wind him up well in advance. I’m remaining my usual self with the kids, I gave him a cheery goodbye and have a nice day when he was leaving for work this morning. I think he thinks I’m just going to stay now and be a mug…..

Im actually now more determined than ever that by the time I leave, suddenly and without warning that he will be heartbroken and utterly shit his pants. He’s mentally abused me with his actions - 2 can play at that game.

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Tae1 · 01/10/2024 08:58

OP, please get your valuables, paperwork out of that house asap. Taking a day off work if necessary when he isn't around.
You will feel better when they are beyond his reach.
Can friends take boxes, or colleagues?
Put the word out.
Take any receipts for goods you bought too.
He is not your friend.
Treat him as hostile.
So hope you get the house.🤞