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Trying not to blow up at my mother

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MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 08:47

This is largely a rant, but advice is very welcome.

My mother is very emotionally immature and in my 20s/early 30s I didn't speak to her much. More recently (I'm in my 40s) I decided to accept her as she is, she's mellowed out a lot and we've manage to build a pretty good relationship. We don't live in the same country but we chat fairly often and see each other a few times a year.

She has a big birthday coming up next year, so I've been talking to my sister (who lives in the same country as I) about organising something for that. I've spoken to my mother and asked her if she'd like a party in her town, or if she'd like everyone in the immediate family to go away on a trip. Response was 'oh I don't want a party,' and she was keen a trip, so, trip it is.

The problem is that at a previous significant birthday we were told no parties, then my other sister (who is a horrible being) organised a party without telling me and my (not horrible) sister. There is a 'lovely' photo from that party of all the extended family with me and my sister and our husbands/children excluded. As you can imagine, neither of us was happy about this. My mother said nothing about it because she ignores my horrible sister's behaviour due to aforementioned emotional immaturity.

I can see my horrible sister doing the same thing again - there has already been talk of 'something small' being organised. Or if she doesn't do it, I can see one of my mother's sisters (who are genuinely nice people) organising something low-key and last-minute which means my sister and I won't be invited.

So I have a few options - lovely sister and I organise a party, even though my mother says she doesn't want one, to short-circuit a situation where my horrible sister organises something without us.

Let go of the whole party thing and just do the trip and accept that there will be another extended family photo without me and my lovely sister and our families.

Try to talk to my mother about this. This is the worst option as she is incapable of discussing anything.

I know there's probably no good way out of this. It's surprising me how much it's upsetting me - I think years of accepting low-level crappy behaviour are coming back to haunt me. Thankfully my (not horrible) sister is an angel - without her I'd probably lose my shit entirely.

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MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:45

5128gap · 29/09/2024 09:40

Why I'm earth would there be any danger of you 'blowing up' at your mother? From what you've said the woman is minding her own business while her daughters variously organise things for her, scheme and compete about who's thing will be best and who to exclude. In all honesty she isn't the one who's coming across as emotionally immature in your post. You have agreed with her to do a trip so do your trip. If someone else decides to do a party there's nothing you can do about it. If they decide not to ask you, then it's them you should speak to (if you must blow up!) I can quite understand why your mother would go along with it for a quiet life.... You're adults and the days when she should get between your squabbles should really be behind her.

I think this is a fair comment. The way I feel about it, my mother knows what my sister does is awful but she does nothing about it, which makes me feels she doesn't give a shit about me and my other sister. If one of my children organised a birthday party without inviting the other I'd be so pissed at them - in fact they wouldn't do it because they'd know how much it would bother me. But my mother just ignores it. If I blew up at her it wouldn't really be about the party, it'd be about never addressing anything. I know it'd do no good, which is why I'm trying to avoid it.

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MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:42

Doingmybest12 · 29/09/2024 09:39

Looks like you are looking for a fantasy version of your family even though you know it doesn't exist. (Doesmt exist for most families) Your relationships are fractured ,your mother has issues. You can't keep trying to make you all one big happy family for photos. We've got some weird dynamics going on, people have their own issues, we just accept and do our own thing and what we can. That's all we can do.

I know you're right and I've managed to do this for a while but it feels like actually accepting it I've just been tolerating it IYSWIM and now it's all avalanched down in a heap of anger and resentment. I can't keep ignoring my feelings or my sister's feelings (tbh it's my sister's feelings that bother me more) but there's no good way out of it beyond just pretending we don't feel massively fucked off by the whole thing.

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Claloulat · 29/09/2024 09:41

Definitely let you extended family know. Something like, "The party looked great. Sis and I would have loved to have been invited". That way they know it's not on you that you weren't there.

Grey rock horrible sister. Ice her out of conversations with your other sister. Don't give her the big reaction she's hoping for

5128gap · 29/09/2024 09:40

Why I'm earth would there be any danger of you 'blowing up' at your mother? From what you've said the woman is minding her own business while her daughters variously organise things for her, scheme and compete about who's thing will be best and who to exclude. In all honesty she isn't the one who's coming across as emotionally immature in your post. You have agreed with her to do a trip so do your trip. If someone else decides to do a party there's nothing you can do about it. If they decide not to ask you, then it's them you should speak to (if you must blow up!) I can quite understand why your mother would go along with it for a quiet life.... You're adults and the days when she should get between your squabbles should really be behind her.

Doingmybest12 · 29/09/2024 09:39

Looks like you are looking for a fantasy version of your family even though you know it doesn't exist. (Doesmt exist for most families) Your relationships are fractured ,your mother has issues. You can't keep trying to make you all one big happy family for photos. We've got some weird dynamics going on, people have their own issues, we just accept and do our own thing and what we can. That's all we can do.

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:36

thepariscrimefiles · 29/09/2024 09:33

Don't invite horrible sister on the trip if you are doing all the organising.

Does your mum favour the horrible sister? Would she refuse to go on the trip if your horrible sister isn't invited?

She doesn't favour her as such, she's just afraid of her I think. She does all sort of horrible things and my mother says nothing, but if lovely sister and I put a foot wrong we're terrible and awful and all sorts.

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MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:34

Easipeelerie · 29/09/2024 09:31

But your mum ignoring bad behaviour is to be expected As you’ve said, she emotionally immature. I’d try to make peace with the situation. There are some positives - your mum’s improved a bit and you have one lovely sister.

You are right, I know. My sister is a genuine, solid-gold angel. She's so upset about this whole malarkey, that's a big part of what's driving me nuts.

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thepariscrimefiles · 29/09/2024 09:33

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:06

Horrible sister will be going on the trip.

I love my aunts and would like to be part of things, rather than left out.

Don't invite horrible sister on the trip if you are doing all the organising.

Does your mum favour the horrible sister? Would she refuse to go on the trip if your horrible sister isn't invited?

RandomMess · 29/09/2024 09:31

Organise and book a big surprise party, no doubt horrid sister will find out and spoil the surprise but just overlook that.

You can do a trip away with your Mum as well whilst you are there visiting?

Easipeelerie · 29/09/2024 09:31

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:29

I should do this but I'm finding it hard, I think largely because my mother ignores this awful behaviour. I know for the last party a lot of my aunts would have wondered why sister and I weren't there - they would have assumed we were invited as what sort of horrible arsehole doesn't invite people to their own mother's birthday?? They're too polite to ask but I know they think we just didn't come.

But your mum ignoring bad behaviour is to be expected As you’ve said, she emotionally immature. I’d try to make peace with the situation. There are some positives - your mum’s improved a bit and you have one lovely sister.

randoname · 29/09/2024 09:30

Arrange the trip. Tell your nice aunts you’d love to be invited to any party, “it might not be possible to come but let me and nice sister know and we’ll do our best”

Royalshyness · 29/09/2024 09:30

I wouldn’t worry about your aunts but if you ever got talking to them on your own you could discreetly explain the situation

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:30

Maria1979 · 29/09/2024 09:28

You do you. Why even look at photos where you are "excluded". Do what you want with your sister and ignore the rest.

Because these are the only photos with the whole family (including my gran who is now very ill) in them. My cousins, my cousins' children, the whole lot. Except us.

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Royalshyness · 29/09/2024 09:29

I totally get this (have a situation with my mother that’s not pleasant)

but I would bow out of this.. do the little trip and if horrible sister makes a thing of the photo just say cooly ‘ah that looked nice, the date didn’t suit me to attend but glad you had a nice time.. then change the subject.. don’t feed into her or your mother’

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:29

Skipsurvey · 29/09/2024 09:27

absolutely sibling rivalry
rise above it

I should do this but I'm finding it hard, I think largely because my mother ignores this awful behaviour. I know for the last party a lot of my aunts would have wondered why sister and I weren't there - they would have assumed we were invited as what sort of horrible arsehole doesn't invite people to their own mother's birthday?? They're too polite to ask but I know they think we just didn't come.

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Maria1979 · 29/09/2024 09:28

You do you. Why even look at photos where you are "excluded". Do what you want with your sister and ignore the rest.

Skipsurvey · 29/09/2024 09:27

absolutely sibling rivalry
rise above it

Skipsurvey · 29/09/2024 09:26

just do your own thing for your dm
ignore any party that you are not made aware of

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:26

Skipsurvey · 29/09/2024 09:25

she cant be that wrong in the head if she managed to organise the previous party?

Edited

Part of the reason she organised it was so she could exclude me and my sister. She still mentions it now and again, she's very happy with herself.

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Skipsurvey · 29/09/2024 09:25

she cant be that wrong in the head if she managed to organise the previous party?

Easipeelerie · 29/09/2024 09:24

You know what’s likely to go down and knowledge is power so just accept things as they're likely to be. Your mum will be in photos with mean sister and you will do separate things for mum with nice sister.

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:23

Skipsurvey · 29/09/2024 09:20

cant you communicate with your horrible sister?
if she is organising a party can you go?

No I can't. If I sent her a text about it it would probably lead to weeks of hundreds of abusive texts. She's not right in the head.

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BlueJayCailin · 29/09/2024 09:23

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:21

This is a big birthday.

Id organise a party then. Doesn’t have to be a big thing but if everyone is coming over for drinks and cake while you’re home then it spikes horrible sister’s guns, and you get to see your aunts!

you could link it in with the trip - fly home Thursday, have surprise drinks and cake Friday night, then go somewhere for the trip.

Skipsurvey · 29/09/2024 09:22

well the party will be on her birthday or before or after,

MoMhathair · 29/09/2024 09:21

sweeneytoddsrazor · 29/09/2024 09:16

But that is just an unfortunate part of living away from family. You really can't expect them to arrange things only when you can attend. Big occasions like a wedding or big birthday maybe but other than that no.

This is a big birthday.

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