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To think my elderly DM is being scammed via O2?

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head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 08:28

DM is in the UK and I am overseas. We normally talk for free over WhatsApp. She was in hospital a couple of months ago and couldn't get anyone to help her connect to the internet, so she was using her normal mobile phone service with O2 to call me and send texts. This left her with a bill of £1,700 for the 2 weeks she was in hospital.

Since she has been out of hospital, she has been using WhatsApp again. However, she just received another O2 bill for £4,200!

We can't get through to anyone to help. Mum doesn't have an online account so the phone is the only way to contact them, but no one is answering.

She is also randomly getting bills from Talk Talk, who she doesn't have an account with. My only thought is that they have bought out Shell Energy who she used to have her internet with, but I can't confirm this.

Something is up and I need to get to the bottom of it. Mum is getting so distressed about it all. I think she is being scammed as none of this makes sense. AIBU and can anybody help? Thanks.

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whowhatwerewhy · 29/09/2024 10:29

It sounds like your mom has been using her data rather than Wi-Fi so the costs would soon add up .

What phone does she have someone might be able to give simple steps to reconnect her to Wi-Fi

Flowerbuttonflower · 29/09/2024 10:29

You use to be able to change plan on O2 by text. But could you make her an online account on O2 and use her number but your email. So you can see her account?
I know if I forget when I’m out to turn off my data. My phone uses the best signal.
If she is on pay as you go, online you can change her to a PAYG unlimited data.

Nannyoggapple · 29/09/2024 10:25

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 09:56

@MadeForThis thanks. I have calculated that we would have to have spoken for 2,466 minutes to run up such a bill. There is no way. Something is up.

It is possible for it to be that much.

For example there are certain mobile plans that include a certain amount of call minutes.

If she makes calls once her allowed minutes are used up, she will be charges at a much higher rate.

If you go outside your allowance you are charged at a higher rate.

You vitally need to check what plan she is on

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/09/2024 10:25

diddl · 29/09/2024 09:56

Do hospitals even have free wifi for patients?

Hope you get sorted Op.

Yes. I always click on to nhs free WiFi

But obv I know how to do it

Mum sounds like she doesn't and been using data or maybe they sent a text saying run out an top up and think it's 100/500mb is £3 or so and lasts minutes

On holiday I always add the large bolt data on as it rolls over next month and cheapest way of doing it if I run out

To think my elderly DM is being scammed via O2?
theemmadilemma · 29/09/2024 10:25

If OP isn't on the account it won't matter because they won't speak to her anyway.

I hope you get things figured out. It must feel very helpless.

Giraffel · 29/09/2024 10:22

What phone does she have? Can she get Google assistant or Siri to turn the WiFi on for her?

Also, I switched my parents to 1p mobile.

StMarieforme · 29/09/2024 10:20

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 09:56

@MadeForThis thanks. I have calculated that we would have to have spoken for 2,466 minutes to run up such a bill. There is no way. Something is up.

That's only 41 hours tho? Over 14 days is only 3 hrs a day.

Not saying the charges are right but they could be accurate iyswim?

mitogoshigg · 29/09/2024 10:19

Is she under contract? If not i would switch to someone like giffgaff where you load the package monthly (can start early if a heavy use month) and you load credit for extras so you can't overspend

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 10:18

@Fluffyelephant I think the carer is arranged through Age Concern. We are not paying for it yet, but will be soon. I think this is the third or fourth one she's had, but none of them speak English.

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Giraffel · 29/09/2024 10:18

My mum was in hospital for a long while this year, and she did burn through data faster than ever before just using whatsapp. I added data boosts to her account before she could run out. She was on the hospital WiFi for a little while but it blocked some apps so had to use data.

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/09/2024 10:18

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 09:32

So I asked Mum to tell me what she could see on the top right hand side of her screen and she said 'O2/UK' and then the battery percentage. If she was on WiFi, shouldn't she see the WiFi symbol?

Yes

1st pic shows me on WiFi
2nd pic I've turned WiFi off

Is there someone who could pop in and check her phone and call o2 from it. It's free and they answer quickly

I'm with o2

Def tweet. A £4k bill is horrendous and tbh their end should have clicked something was wrong

Mum needs a contract phone. Can get them for £10 or so for lots of data and unlimited calls /texts

To think my elderly DM is being scammed via O2?
To think my elderly DM is being scammed via O2?
TheYearOfSmallThings · 29/09/2024 10:17

But hang on OP, I don't understand why you haven't been able to speak to someone?

O2 aren't the worst for that - I called them Friday, said "NO" to all the voice options, and it put me through to someone called Jennifer who sorted everything out.

There are companies you just can't communicate with but I have never found O2 to be one of them.

Fluffyelephant · 29/09/2024 10:15

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 10:11

@Fluffyelephant she has a carer going in twice a day but she doesn't speak English and just sits there on her phone for an hour then leaves.

What service is that set up through? Are you paying for it? I would contact them and explain that you want a different carer.

And I would contact any relevant charities to see what other support she could be eligible for E.g. Age Concern, Dementia UK, any charities connected to other health issues she may have.

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 10:11

@Fluffyelephant she has a carer going in twice a day but she doesn't speak English and just sits there on her phone for an hour then leaves.

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LittleSoo · 29/09/2024 10:09

O2 might not speak to you due to data protection, is your mum able enough to call you and add you as an authorised person onto her account so then you can speak with them?

Fluffyelephant · 29/09/2024 10:08

What in person support is this lady actually getting?

Your posts read as if she’s completely alone at home 100% of the time since being discharged from hospital.

is there any family locally? Any care workers going in?

Some form of in person support needs to be set up otherwise things like this will just keep happening again and again. I’m sorry to say.

IfYouHaveGhosts · 29/09/2024 10:05

My mil has similar issues but we have a spend cap. She kept running out of her data and we couldn’t understand why.
it was because she’d decided to start using WhatsApp for calling and she has no WiFi.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 29/09/2024 10:05

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 09:56

@MadeForThis thanks. I have calculated that we would have to have spoken for 2,466 minutes to run up such a bill. There is no way. Something is up.

It's not just call time though, it will also be the cost of running the internet constantly via mobile data - if that's outside of her package then the costs can add up really fast.

It sounds like she's been using mobile data constantly for weeks - add on the costs of phoning you abroad and maybe even texting you abroad and it won't be cheap.

Silvers11 · 29/09/2024 10:03

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 09:32

So I asked Mum to tell me what she could see on the top right hand side of her screen and she said 'O2/UK' and then the battery percentage. If she was on WiFi, shouldn't she see the WiFi symbol?

Yes - but even then, the wi-fi signal may have a question mark against it if it's not connected ( but not always). She needs to switch off Mobile Data whether or not the wi-fi icon is there or it may use that if the wi fi drops for any reason. Not all phones reconnect automatically if they have disconnected from the wi-fi

StillCreatingAName · 29/09/2024 10:03

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 09:49

It really is @StillCreatingAName. She's a housebound pensioner with dementia. She has no money. We can't help either, as we can barely pay our own phone bill.

There’s some great support online (and an advice line) through AGE UK, it might be helpful in general for your mum. AGE UK

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/services/age-uk-advice-line/

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 10:01

@diddl 4 weeks.

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diddl · 29/09/2024 10:00

What time period does the 2nd bill cover?

If it was neatly 2k for 2 weeks then the 4k might not be wrong as such.

head2toeinuniqlo · 29/09/2024 09:56

@MadeForThis thanks. I have calculated that we would have to have spoken for 2,466 minutes to run up such a bill. There is no way. Something is up.

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diddl · 29/09/2024 09:56

Do hospitals even have free wifi for patients?

Hope you get sorted Op.

TookTheBook · 29/09/2024 09:55

You can still get her to contact her local Citizens Advice, perhaps with your support. Ours offers phone appointments and you could email them copies of bills etc.