To suspect vegetables are crucifying me?

I tried fodmap and it didn’t really work for me, as everything I reintroduced upset my IBD in the medium to larger quantities
After a particularly bad few months I decided to try it again and realised the issue for me is quantities
Even with the supposed low fod map I was eating far too much
Eg suggested amount of courgette is less than 1/2, melon is an 1/8, blueberries (20) and that would be my daily limit, it should also be spread out over 3 meals
To those of you who have suggested seeing a dietitian - my gastric surgeon wrote to my GP asking for a referral for help with an elimination diet and was told that this is no longer available on the NHS
I went gluten free over 10 years ago, am now dairy intolerant, and a lot of other milks upset me
I used to have soya milk in Costa until they changed the brand and had a bad reaction to it - I found out it now contains both pea and apple products which are on my banned list
Some days I just wish I could give up food altogether!

Have you tried fasting for a while. There’s been some data that shows resting your gut may help repair. Anything from 16:8,18:6 to one meal a day.

I have a lot of gut issues going back well over a decade and more recently trashed my gut eating quorn. I started eating the Zoe 30+ whole food and that has made a massive difference. It was a bit of a gamble as there are so many things I don’t tolerate. But this is healing my gut a little.

Have you seen your doctor recently OP? As well as trying to identify triggers and modify your diet as you have been doing there might be medications that could help.

Same here, I struggle with potato in most forms, salad leaves, tomato, cucumber, cauliflower, cabbage, peppers, soft cheese, milk, cream, chocolate, alcohol, oils and fats, some spices (Indian food kills me), most fruits go right through me.
This can happen the following day after I’ve eaten something or be a cumulative effect I’ve I’ve eaten too much over a few days.
It can also happen immediately depending on my anxiety levels (eating out can make me rush to the loo within a few mouthfuls).

I fucking hate my guts, it ruins my life. I’m always thinking about where I’m going and access to toilets, I worry I’m going to have the sudden shits in work, I darent eat too much in work and often take a preventative Imodium which then backs me up and gives me a day of almost constant shitting a few days later.
My husband wakes in the morning, goes to the loo and that’s him done for the day. I’d pay good money to be like that. I can go up to 8 times a day when I’m at my worst, just constant soft, loose urgent stool.

I don't blame him! The problem is the pesticides and I stand by that, otherwise vegetables are extremely important in the long run for us and our digestive system. I've learnt that organic doesn't mean pesticide free, it's a marketing ploy. Best best it to buy from local farmers and actual organic shops not "fake" ones. Easier said than done when living in London 🙃

It makes total sense to me that potato and cabbage had aggravated your symptoms, those two vegetables do the same for me so I limit them where I can. When you have salads do you use lemon? This can be a trigger also. What spices/seasoning are you using when you cook?

Have you looked at the Monash FODMAP guide? It gives a breakdown of what’s in the fruit and vege- mannitol, fructans etc. It might help identify some other vege like cucumber and tomato you can eat. It can help identify the different types of vege you can eat. I can only eat Japanese pumpkin, not any other kind.
I second the previous poster who said go see a doctor and get a referral to a dietitian. For now, just eat that really restricted diet and take vitamins.

Fodmap never worked for me. I realised I had to quit dairy, gluten and nightshade veg (potatoes, tomatoes, aubergines, peppers). But I've also found I get pain with uncooked veg.

Unfortunately it's an arduous process of elimination. One veg at a time.

Mum has coilitis and diverticulitis which alternate/ when she has a colitis flare up she has to stay away from a list of veg and go onto eg white bread. Just letting you know in case it’s related, not sure if it’s possible to have ibs and colitis but just in case!

I know someone who’s on a mission to live a very long and healthy life. He is a highly intelligent man now in his 80s and now eats nothing but animal products. No fruit and veg. It is a thing. He is incredibly fit.
He was discussing a book called something like ‘plants are trying to kill you’ and extolling the virtues of a carnivorous diet. Jordan Peterson does the same.
It’s very much against the received wisdom so will get shouted down on here but you may want to explore further.

I don't eat veg at all because it makes me shit. If I eat veg I'm up at 4am desperately needing to go and on the toilet for a couple of hours. I now eat one banana a day as my "one a day" as that's all my bowel can tolerate and take a multivitamin. Yes, it's not great health wise but I feel so much better for it.

You can’t sort this out alone and nor can you take too much advice from a bunch of Mumsnet randoms. You need proper support from a dietitian, not least because you need to ensure proper nutrition. In Australia, you can just make an appointment, no need for a GP’s referral.

This is a list of dietitians around the world who are experienced in food intolerances and elimination diets https://www.fedup.com.au/support/failsafe-dietitians.

Some thinking points here www.fedup.com.au/factsheets/factsheets-by-symptom/irritable-bowel-symptoms-ibs

you should get tested for sibo (small bowel overgrowth)
also I had this and did a colon irrigation once a month for a year - cleared out my old stuff and never had a prob eating fruit and vegg again no more ibs

I ate one single apple at work & I was in excruciating pain. Shooting pains down my leg, I could barely drive home as it hurt to move my thighs.

If I watch England play football in a knockout tournament I’ll be in pain by the end of the game. Stupid stress.

It’s different for everyone. I figured out my triggers after about 15 years of it. I can eat a meal with bread in it once or twice a week. If I eat it more frequently, my IBS kicks off. That one was hard to pin down because it seems to be a cumulative effect and isn’t easy to link to a specific meal. I can’t tolerate milk well. If I drank a glass of milk I’d be ill within a few hours. I can get away with milk in a sauce or custard maybe once a week. If I stick to that and avoid quorn, blueberries and onions in large quantities I can eat what I want most of the time including veg.

Is it things that grow in the ground? All the root vegetables plus potatoes - thats what jumped out at me from your list.

My worst triggers are alcohol and chocolate, followed by beans but not green beans.

This is me currently too. I am just so fed up of food completely. I am sick of the whole ordeal. I wish there was a pill i could just take instead of eating, it would make my life easier.

You should try carnivore.
In your shoes I’d eat nothing but chicken for a week (unless I had a bad symptom day) to see how I got on.