To suspect vegetables are crucifying me?

I noticed that nearly all of the items you listed that cause you problems are very high Fodmap foods… just in case you hadn’t realised x

Are yiu having gravy or saice with the veg? You could be gluten intolerant

I can't tolerate a lot of veg which is a shame as Im vegan. I find if stuff is cooked to a mush it's better but anything undercooked (which is almost always is in a restaurant) is terrible.

I can relate to the bowel issue being something that only occurs if you think about it.
During emergencies or times where I’m fully engrossed in other things I don’t even think of my stomach and I don’t have any issues.
On the other hand, if I go out to dinner with one particular friend who when I went out with her a few years ago I had a bad stomach all evening and had to visit the loo many times, every time I go out with her now I get the violent runs and have to leave her sitting at the table alone for lots of time as I’m stuck in the loo. The mind is a powerful thing.

'Apparently' I don't have IBS or IBD. I don't have a pancreatic enzyme deficiency either. I had one cycle of chemotherapy last year and my gut was completely wrecked by that. I have had a colonoscopy and it seems that apart from some mild diverticulitis my gut is fine!

I don't like many vegetables, but I used to love salad, coleslaw, fruit, and a few vegetables. I cannot now eat raw fruit or vegetables. I can't eat peas or sweetcorn, nuts or seeds. Cabbage is iffy, as are peppers. I have to be extremely careful about how much oil or fat I eat. I seem to be fine with carbs of all kinds. I'm also type 2 diabetic and used to manage it quite well with meds and diet. Since my diet is now a LOT of carbs with protein but very little fruit and veg and not much in the way of fats or oils, it really isn't doing my diabetes any good at all!

My whole life is governed by how my tummy feels, whether I think I'm going to be able to be away from home for more than an hour, where the nearest toilet is etc. I used to swim twice a week but there are some days when I am so worried about having an 'accident' that I have to miss it. We have been invited to my grandson's birthday tea on Saturday and I'm already worried about whether I'm going to manage without using the loo, and I know we will have to leave early. They only have one loo, it's on a half landing and the stairs go directly into the living/dining room so there is little privacy and noises/smells will be very obvious.

We got home late yesterday and my DH suggested getting fish and chips on the way, as it was a bit late to cook. I had to say no - I had had a bad day and I knew I wouldn't be able to manage that much fat.

All I want is to know what I can eat to be healthy - all the things I 'should' eat I can't eat. I feel for you OP!

With IBS it's best to check out medically there is nothing else going on too. I was having digestive/poo issues in my late 30s, thought it was stress or food intolerance and I had endometriosis all over my bowel and an endometrial cyst.

I'm glad someone noticed! 😂

Garlic and other alliums are well known for causing IBS symptoms. It may be that the other veg is combined with onions etc and the alliums are the culprits. Also it depends how things are cooked sometimes.

Have you tried taking Symprove op?
It has great results for some people.

OP I did the low FODMAP diet. My issue is with beans and too garlic or onion. I take a bean assist enzyme before any meal with those ingredients and it's completely resolved my IBS. You sound like you have a problem with a greater number of foods but the enzyme could increase the number of foods you can eat comfortably.

www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/enzymedica-beanassist-30-capsules/165813

Vegetables are trying to crucify you? Surely only brocolli and cauliflower...

I'm glad you saved me from making a cruciferous vegetables joke, @taylorswift1989 !

And, when you get very specific advice on exactly what you should be eating or taking, etc, ask for a link to the the peer reviewed evidence from a scientist working for a reputable organisation.

Get out of the echo chambers and relax.

Try the Atkins diet. I did this, as well as acupuncture, and it cured my IBS completely. It took a while but worked in the end. I didn't eat an apple for about 6 years but can now eat them happily. The only fruit I could eat was bananas and fresh dates. Also drink only hot drinks and try miso soup instead of coffee. Also honey bush tea is very soothing for the stomach. Totally agree about the veg - so frustrating! I couldn't eat anything raw for months - it was grim.

Stress, migraines, sometimes being pre-menstrual.

Had a bad few weeks recently, I was so sick of the safe foods I normally eat, just didn't want to eat at all. Potato, carrot, chicken, tuna, egg are the main things I can eat, but I ended up fixated on wanting curry.

It’s so funny to see this here because I was googling it earlier.

I’ve been in an IBS flare for a while now and I’m so fed up. The other day I was curled up in a ball for hours, groaning because my stomach hurt so much. I’d taken several buscopan over the course of the day but it didn’t help.

I like vegetables and I like to eat healthily, but the more healthily I eat the more I suffer. I’ve tried low fodmap, probiotics and supplements but I seem to react to everything no matter what. I’ve got kefir on the go at the moment but it’s not making any difference. The only times I have an ok BM are if I’ve eaten junk.

I didn’t eat any vegetables yesterday or the day before because of the stomach pain. Yesterday I had the first ok BM for a long time. I was shocked.

I don’t know what to do anymore. We’re constantly bombarded with information on how important it is to eat a high fibre diet to reduce our risk of bowel cancer, but what are you supposed to do if your body can’t manage that? I find it really unhelpful when people say ‘oh it’s your microbiome’ or ‘you must have gluten sensitivity’ as if we haven’t tried all these things.

Onion and garlic are killers for me. I can have very small quantities once or twice a week, but eating out or takeaway can be tricky.
Eat really simply for a while, avoid sauces and stuffing etc, it should help bit maybe very boring.

What I learned from doing the FODMAP diet is the cumulative effect. I love chickpeas and can tolerate a small handful but only once every 4 to 5 days. If I eat a handful on day 1 then again on day 2 I’m in agony. Perhaps this could be an issue for you?

I don't think the advice to avoid things that trigger it is wise, it goes against the latest research which suggest it's a reduced gut biome which causes IBS. You need to slowly introduce very small amounts of things, alongside a very high prebiotic and probiotic diet. Restricting will only make more and more things undigestible over time.

In reality is fairly simple though, don't eat foods that make you poorly.

You've mentioned stress a few times and clearly this digestion issue is just adding to it.

I'd just park it for a bit. Be kind to yourself, don't try and find a resolution at the moment because as you can see from all the comments you'll be going around in ever decreasing circles with all the different advice. People have very strong views about diet and don't hold back on offering advice that suits them but certainly doesn't suit everyone.

I think your most unnecessary worry, for the time being, is about getting enough nutrition. Take a good multivitamin and mineral, then eat only things that you know you can tolerate. If that's just ice cream or something, it's fine, in the short term that isn't going to hurt you - although it might be boring! I very seriously doubt you'll get malnutrition.

Why not spend a few months focussing on reducing your stress (and for goodness sake don't google that or ask Mumsnet)? Get out of this vicious circle and then tackle it again with a fresh mind when you feel ready.

I'm 52 and have had IBS since I was a teenager...but the triggers seem to evolve and change over time!

When I was young it was wholegrains, fruit, potato and even lettuce. Later in my 30's, nuts and green vegetables became problematic but potato became an easy safe food. These days, it's mostly vegetables and weirdly, yoghurt. Yet I can eat plenty of fruit (as long as it isn't over ripe) without difficulty.

So now I avoid all onion, leeks, garlic and only eat broccoli and similar leafy green veg in small quantities. I love fruit and Greek yoghurt for breakfast but have to limit myself to one small spoonful of yoghurt! On a bad day I can feel my sigmoid colon burning and I'll be in and out of the bathroom all day. Thank God I work from home - if we go away or I have to go somewhere for work, I avoid breakfast and hot drinks and take preventative immodium. I don't feel safe to eat unless I 100% know I'll have access to a toilet.

Stupid isn't it - like a PP said, my DH gets up and does his regular poo first thing and he's done. He finds my unpredictable bowels bizarre.