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To think the one who wakes in the night should sleep a bit later the next morning?

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Oneandaquarter · 28/09/2024 21:47

DD wakes in the night and she also wakes crazy early at around 5 … AIBU to think DH should get up with her then since I’ve been up in the night?

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Tiedyesquad · 29/09/2024 10:54

So would your ideal situation be that DH always gets up at 5?

That seems reasonable to me, so long as you are doing all the night wakings. There has to be a time when you feel fully "off the clock" and know that he's got it, and if that's 5-7am so be it. I'd do the following:
weekdays - you do nights and he does 5am start
weekends, you alternate, or if he simply won't hear them crying in the night and you have to get up, he either sleeps nearer them/uses a monitor, or if there's no way you can sleep through, he then has the 5am start both days.

I might be biased as DH and I both work, our children are older, and to have time for a full day's work and do the school runs and other things, I will always be up at 5 and he will always be up at 6. Obviously at the weekend we can sleep and take it in turns and we don't have night waking any more. But the idea that a 5am start is a hardship for someone who just goes to work seems a bit pathetic.

I also have no sympathy for people who "just don't hear" or don't wake up, to me that signals they aren't fundamentally and subconsciously feeling responsible. What would they do if they were on their own at night?

My remarks might be different if he's a brain surgeon or running an international consultancy and has 15 hour intense shifts, and you get a 2 hour nap time and work 3 mornings a week, or something...but somehow I don't think that's the case here.

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/09/2024 10:53

Ear plugs in your room

Monitor in dh room turned loud and door open in his room

Edenmum2 · 29/09/2024 10:53

Yes yes yes. This is totally fair.

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:50

I already have but I get people may have missed it. We don’t sleep together.

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MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 29/09/2024 10:49

It sounds like you don't room share with DH as you've made comments about having to "go to DHs room".

Perhaps you can clarify this.

If you do share a room with DH, pop some ear plugs in and go to sleep. Let him deal with DD or leave DD to cry it out and sleep train.

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:47

@Dishwashersaurous everyones telling me what to do despite me repeatedly saying I don’t want to do that - that’s what’s a bit annoying and why I know I’m getting a bit snappy, I’m sorry Flowers

I know it’s kindly meant but I don’t want to go to bed at 8 o clock. I go at 9 anyway. I don’t want to lie awake for hours listening to DD cry, i don’t want to be prodding and poking DH at 2 in the morning!

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Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:45

@ButterAsADip yeah. If DH woke up. We don’t sleep together so I’d have to get out of bed to wake him anyway and then I’d be awake while he groggily came round and had a wee and then I’d be awake listening to DD crying. I could have her sorted in that time so I’ll carry on doing that no matter how wrong that is in MN eyes.

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Dishwashersaurous · 29/09/2024 10:45

You asked about fairness.

And almost everyone is saying the fair thing to do is to split the night waking, and split the lie ins.

You don't want to do that.

Your husband doesn't want to get up at 5am everyday.

What is his suggestion?

ButterAsADip · 29/09/2024 10:42

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:41

Because I want to get back to sleep as soon as I fucking can!

It will be a hell of a lot quicker if you don’t have to get out of bed - ie, tell DH to get out of bed.

Assuming that last post was to me.

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:41

Because I want to get back to sleep as soon as I fucking can!

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ButterAsADip · 29/09/2024 10:41

I’ve read all your posts and can’t see where you’ve said why the hell youre not waking your DH up?? He doesn’t hear her but can he really ignore you right next to him, poking him and telling him to get up to see to his child? At least then you don’t have to get out of bed and can close your eyes the minute he gets up, so far less disruptive to your sleep.

You’re not happy about your current situation so he’s gonna have to pull his weight.

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:40

@Dishwashersaurous i know. And I don’t want them to. I know I sound snappy and that’s not the intention, I’m just telling you I’m not interested in convoluted solutions involving me going to bed at insane times which to be honest wouldn’t solve anything. It’s just a question about whether I’m being reasonable to never give DH a lie in!

@Blondeshavemorefun at the moment I’m not making my life harder than it is, end of.

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ButterAsADip · 29/09/2024 10:37

Oneandaquarter · 28/09/2024 21:51

Really … so even though I’m up two or three times I have to get up at 5?? 🥱

Take turns getting up in the night. Then alternate lie ins at the weekend.

Dishwashersaurous · 29/09/2024 10:35

Also, what is his solution?

He must realise that you are utterly broken after over a year or not having a full night's sleep. Surely he wants to help you and find a solution so you can sleep?

Dishwashersaurous · 29/09/2024 10:34

People are making suggestions. You can go to bed at 8pm, not every night but the weekends perhaps.

The most important thing is to get some sleep, however you get it.

The other thing you can do is go away just you for a couple of nights to properly sleep and your husband will have to parent.

Once you've managed to sleep properly for a bit everything else is manageable

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/09/2024 10:30

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:00

@Blondeshavemorefun did you read my above post? I’m not being up half the night to ‘train’ dh or whatever weird point people think I should be making.

Yes I did

But you are letting that happen

I do sleep training and the amount of times I hear a mum say that about a dad

Yes you may have a couple of nights unsettled while you kick dh out and he tends to dd

You are both working. Why should it all come done to you ?

Fair way as you said would be you to do nights but sleep 5/7am and him get up when dd wakes at 5

But he won't even do that

DoorOpening · 29/09/2024 10:30

Haven’t read everyone’s replies, but definitely your DH should get up at 5. And without any question when you are working the next day. I can’t imagine any other answer.

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:17

thepariscrimefiles · 29/09/2024 10:02

Does you DH ever get up at 5.00 am with your daughter or do you do all the night wakings and all the 5.00 am starts?

He doesn’t hear her at 5 but if I take her to him he will take her. It is hard at the moment I agree with the dark cold mornings, I just can’t do both!

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guineapigs2024 · 29/09/2024 10:08

Dh is a early bird and he took dc for a breakfast. I got up when he needed to get ready for work. I probably had to wake up four times a night because both dc kept waking up.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/09/2024 10:02

Oneandaquarter · 28/09/2024 22:12

Sorry @Ohcrap082024 . It doesn’t work, he just doesn’t hear her and I would do I’d get woken up anyway!

Does you DH ever get up at 5.00 am with your daughter or do you do all the night wakings and all the 5.00 am starts?

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 10:00

@Blondeshavemorefun did you read my above post? I’m not being up half the night to ‘train’ dh or whatever weird point people think I should be making.

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lopdoo · 29/09/2024 09:57

I got the lie ins whilst BF and getting up in the night, when they started sleeping though we then started taking it in turns.

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/09/2024 09:57

Oneandaquarter · 28/09/2024 22:07

No, DH never wakes up. I hear snores as I fumble to DDs room. Taking turns just feels really unfair on me, broken nights sleep and crazy early start. Worst of both worlds.

Then you prod poke and kick him
Out of bed to deal with dd

It's amazing how many dads just don't hear ........

Or you are letting him get away with it

Or you sleep train.

You say dd isn't that bad - but bad enough to complain on mn she wakes 2 times a night and up at 5 and you are tired

That's fair enough. Anyone would be

So sleep train

5am is still middle of the night. In 4w that will be 4am as clocks go back

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 09:50

No, I really can’t! He can’t eat my dinner for me, prepare next days lessons for me or mark my books for me!

Sorry - not meaning to be an arse here bur I do know my own life.

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Chipsintheair · 29/09/2024 09:46

Oneandaquarter · 29/09/2024 09:37

@Dishwashersaurous i felt tired just reading that.

We can’t just go to bed at 8. My older child goes to bed around then and (my constant cry!) Stuff Needs Doing!

DH doesn’t wake for DD. To do what some on here want me to do, I’d have to go to DH room, wake him, wait for him to groan and shuffle, have a wee, go to DD, fail to settle her, spend however long listening to him struggle while I’m wide awake myself, then be up at 5 as it’s ’my turn.’

Or I can sort DD myself, but then have a very broken night and actually have an hour or so in the morning.

You can go to bed at 8-9 while DH does the stuff that needs doing.

Perhaps DH can sleep in the same room as the 14m old, so he wakes at 5 for the morning shift, and you get up for the bf in the night, but put earplugs in when you return to bed.