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Am I being selfish?

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Met44 · 28/09/2024 13:20

Married 22 years, not particularly a happy one. DH has been quite emotionally abusive, gaslights, putting me down etc.

Had a really bad few years with my mental health, hospital stay and DH wasn't very supportive.
Then had a major accident which left me bedridden for 6weeks. DH would cook for me but did little in the house and no emotional support at all.

We discussed splitting up but not really an option financially at the moment.

I decided to get myself together, make more friends and just have a life for myself.

DH was then diagnosed with life changing cancer. We pulled together and I have been supportive. The first six weeks he seemed appreciative, we started doing things together and I just wanted to be there for him every step of the way. He was snappy and irritated with me at times but I let it all go over my head, who wouldn't be snappy in that situation?

The last few weeks though he has returned to type. Being quite nasty and emotionally abusive. I'm torn because I know this is a difficult time for him but it's really upsetting.

Last night he was horrible and I snapped back and we argued. He told me he doesn't want me looking after him.

Im just feeling very low today. I have nobody to talk to because he doesn't want anyone knowing and I have to respect that.

Was I being selfish to snap back? Not sure if I should just keep my mouth shut whilst he is going through treatment?

I feel so sad but not sure if I'm being selfish in all this?

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SensibleSigma · 07/12/2024 19:54

And you’re not too old. You just feel old and worn out. But that’s him.

SensibleSigma · 07/12/2024 19:54

No, you can’t ’just leave’, and why should you? It’s your home too. Plan and make an organised move when you are ready to.

Re slating him to your DS, I agree. I just meant when it comes up in conversation, the times your DD is thinking it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other, give a more rational response. Less emotional, more pragmatic. Maybe more specific.

Met44 · 07/12/2024 19:36

Thank you @SensibleSigma

I know it's easy to say just leave but this is the practical support I need. I was just feeling very sad and lonely today and wanted unbiased opinions.

My family are very supportive but obviously have no time for him.
My DS has struggled a lot over the last few years and is only just getting to be happy, I don't want to slate his dad to him, as much as I'd like to it would only hurt DS.

I just feel like I'm too old to start again? Please let that be a warning to you younger mumsnetters that feel that should wait until the children are older. It gets worse, do it now x

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SensibleSigma · 07/12/2024 19:27

play nice in front of the children, as he does.
Try and gather information about money- his income, bank accounts etc.

Look for work- don’t let caring duties for him stop you.

Consider going to women’s aid- he’s financially abusive apart from anything else.

Stop being distracted by your situation- the rights and wrongs, how sad you are that he’s an arsehole, etc- and focus on practical matters.

You can do it.

With your kids, if it comes up, you need to move away from the narrative ‘I’m sad he’s not a very supportive loving partner’, and be more pragmatic. He’s financially abusive, abandoned you on several occasions, where people would treat a dog better. Etc.

Met44 · 07/12/2024 19:15

SensibleSigma · 07/12/2024 19:07

You’re married, 50% of everything is yours.

He told you not to look after him. You can live there and ignore him as he did you.

This is where I need help. Not a lot of equity in the house.
No way I could buy somewhere else, even renting would be astronomical.
Children living at home. I need to get a job, but I'm 54 years old. I've also really let myself go since coming out of hospital. I need a kick up the backside to try and find an exit plan. He has already worn me down, his dad did the same to his mum and she has given up.

I don't want to do that but I need help

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SensibleSigma · 07/12/2024 19:07

You’re married, 50% of everything is yours.

He told you not to look after him. You can live there and ignore him as he did you.

Met44 · 07/12/2024 19:00

Tae1 · 07/12/2024 18:16

Where are your children regarding two suicide attempts?

How can they not know this?
Forget this horror and his family.

Can you go and stay with family?
Are the children like him, that they are so oblivious to their mothers treatment by this pig?

I think you need to try and save yourself.

Children are older, they know about the second one because that resulted in my hospital stay.
They don't know the circumstances leading up to it. They know their dad isn't perfect but say I'm not too.

Although he is very careful around them and I have protected them a lot. My daughter says that we just speak different love languages! But also her relationship with her dad is separate to my relationship with him and she loves him.

No family to stay with. My mum and dad don't have a spare room and my sister lives abroad. Before Brexit I could have gone there but too difficult now for longer than 3 months.

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ChiliFiend · 07/12/2024 18:34

I think in the circumstances you don't "have to respect" him not wanting anyone to know he is ill. If you've got a close friend who can keep a secret, talk to them and get some support. He doesn't get to treat you awfully and then gag you as well.

Tae1 · 07/12/2024 18:16

Where are your children regarding two suicide attempts?

How can they not know this?
Forget this horror and his family.

Can you go and stay with family?
Are the children like him, that they are so oblivious to their mothers treatment by this pig?

I think you need to try and save yourself.

Met44 · 07/12/2024 18:09

Julia34 · 07/12/2024 17:54

How you support yourself without money and job? You have any help? I think is time to break up this relationship is toxic

I get an allowance from him. I have no idea how much he earns, all bills paid by him.

I did work before my breakdown but only minimum wage. Used to have a good career before children but gave it up to be a SAHM ( could kick myself). Completely reliant on him.

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Julia34 · 07/12/2024 17:54

Met44 · 07/12/2024 17:40

Thank you for your replies, I'm sitting here in tears because he has made me feel like im being overdramatic.

I really can't leave at the moment. I have literally no money, or job. The fallout if I left now would be horrific. Him and his family already say I'm overdramatic and make everything about me.

I just needed confirmation from outside as my family are biased apparently ?

How you support yourself without money and job? You have any help? I think is time to break up this relationship is toxic

Met44 · 07/12/2024 17:40

Thank you for your replies, I'm sitting here in tears because he has made me feel like im being overdramatic.

I really can't leave at the moment. I have literally no money, or job. The fallout if I left now would be horrific. Him and his family already say I'm overdramatic and make everything about me.

I just needed confirmation from outside as my family are biased apparently ?

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Jumell · 07/12/2024 17:24

Met44 · 07/12/2024 17:12

Hi everyone

Trigger Warning contains details of suicide

Also this is long and I just need to rant and keep a record of my feelings, so sorry.

Just coming back to this thread as I feel so low today.

After a long wait, husbands treatment is due to start. He has really been messing with my mind lately and I keep going over how he treated me when I was ill. I just wanted to get some opinions if I'm being unreasonable or if I'm justified in being upset?

I became very ill mentally after my DF nearly died. During that time I had no real emotional or physical support from husband.

As soon as DF started to recover I got really bad. I would wake up physically shaking, couldn't sleep or eat. I continued to work but when I got home I went straight to my room. I was a complete mess.

GP prescribed a/ds and these made me worse . To my shame I thought the only way out was to take an overdose. I explained to husband how bad I was feeling and his response was " well you better write your will and sort out your pensions."
I took an overdose and Husband found me.

Drove me to the hospital where he shouted at me for what I had done and asked why I hadn't taken all of the tablets.

Dropped me off at A&E and returned to pick me up when I was discharged later that day. Was very angry with me.

Whilst I was waiting for an appointment with a psychiatrist the crisis team phoned him and said that I wasn't to be left on my own and to get rid of any medication in the house. My sister came to stay and made sure that I ate and pushed for a quicker appointment.

Husband had just taken all medication and put it under the bed.

I really really thought I had no way out and took another overdose, much more than the first. My sister took me to hospital and stayed and comforted me. I never once got a cuddle from husband. In fact I only think he helped after (getting me into a private hospital) as my sister was so disgusted with his behaviour.

Things have been tense with him and my family ever since. He believes they are totally unreasonable and I should "get over it."

I am not going to be the person he is and not look after him. I'm just feeling sad today because my DD asked me to sit with her dad tonight because he looked so sad.

I know people find it hard around mental health but you could physically see how ill I was. I lost 2 1/2 stone and nobody seemed to care.

Should I just forget all this? I feel like I'm making everything about me at the moment? But I'm getting no support and I need to be strong to get him through this treatment.

No you shouldn’t forget it OP

I know it’s difficult OP but I think it’s best to start a new life away from your husband - fresh start

ForeverPombear · 07/12/2024 17:22

Oh OP, I feel so sad for you. You really have to leave him.

He's driven you to this, my Dad did this with my Mum and honestly I was so relieved when she left him. She tried to commit suicide 6/7 times (that I know of) and it's been a long road but she's happy now.

Stop protecting him. He doesn't care about you, stop thinking you have to look after him. He's not looking after you is he?

Please turn to your family and please leave him. You deserve so much more.

You don't need to be strong for him, you need to be strong for yourself.

Jumell · 07/12/2024 17:19

OP you need to get yourself away …

Met44 · 07/12/2024 17:12

Hi everyone

Trigger Warning contains details of suicide

Also this is long and I just need to rant and keep a record of my feelings, so sorry.

Just coming back to this thread as I feel so low today.

After a long wait, husbands treatment is due to start. He has really been messing with my mind lately and I keep going over how he treated me when I was ill. I just wanted to get some opinions if I'm being unreasonable or if I'm justified in being upset?

I became very ill mentally after my DF nearly died. During that time I had no real emotional or physical support from husband.

As soon as DF started to recover I got really bad. I would wake up physically shaking, couldn't sleep or eat. I continued to work but when I got home I went straight to my room. I was a complete mess.

GP prescribed a/ds and these made me worse . To my shame I thought the only way out was to take an overdose. I explained to husband how bad I was feeling and his response was " well you better write your will and sort out your pensions."
I took an overdose and Husband found me.

Drove me to the hospital where he shouted at me for what I had done and asked why I hadn't taken all of the tablets.

Dropped me off at A&E and returned to pick me up when I was discharged later that day. Was very angry with me.

Whilst I was waiting for an appointment with a psychiatrist the crisis team phoned him and said that I wasn't to be left on my own and to get rid of any medication in the house. My sister came to stay and made sure that I ate and pushed for a quicker appointment.

Husband had just taken all medication and put it under the bed.

I really really thought I had no way out and took another overdose, much more than the first. My sister took me to hospital and stayed and comforted me. I never once got a cuddle from husband. In fact I only think he helped after (getting me into a private hospital) as my sister was so disgusted with his behaviour.

Things have been tense with him and my family ever since. He believes they are totally unreasonable and I should "get over it."

I am not going to be the person he is and not look after him. I'm just feeling sad today because my DD asked me to sit with her dad tonight because he looked so sad.

I know people find it hard around mental health but you could physically see how ill I was. I lost 2 1/2 stone and nobody seemed to care.

Should I just forget all this? I feel like I'm making everything about me at the moment? But I'm getting no support and I need to be strong to get him through this treatment.

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Tel12 · 28/09/2024 22:23

Well if you can't leave then live separately in the house. Let him look after himself. It's going to get worse though. He will possibly be angry at you as he's suffering and you're not. I'd make a leaving plan just to give you something positive to focus on. Good advice already on here. Get out and about, do something positive for yourself. Make yourself as resilient as you can.

Inertia · 28/09/2024 21:28

I appreciate your reasons for not wanting to leave now. However, there are things you can do to protect yourself mentally and physically.

You don’t have to take orders from him. I would have left him in the bar and gone to DD.

Speak to a professional support charity, e.g. MacMillan. Don’t tell H .

Move the desk and computer into the bedroom he’s sleeping in.

If he physically threatens you, call the police. Having cancer is not an excuse for committing abuse.

He doesn’t want you to look after him, so don’t.

Try to emotionally distance yourself- don’t react to his provocation.

Check your financial/ legal position- who owns your home? Does he have a will ?

Met44 · 28/09/2024 20:56

@gapattachment im not scared of him physically. But I guess Im worn down with it.

He has this habit of winding me up and then I explode and it looks like im the one with the problem.
This used to happen a lot when I used to drink. So it was "oh she's had a few wines and is kicking off".

I think now it's just for a quite life.

I will give another example which happened recently.
So, I have moved into the spare room so he is more comfortable. This has his desk and computer in.
He had reheated a chicken curry and was taking up to the room to eat. I asked him not too as I have to sleep in there and didn't want food smells. He went absolutely ballistic, shouting and swearing at me.

The next day he moved the computer onto our dining table where it still is, making the room look messy. I was so upset about the way he had spoken to me. He came home later with a bunch of flowers and I thanked him. I was just about to say that I understood his short temper but it wasn't right how he had shouted at me.
He cut me off mid sentence and said "You always do this! I've apologised with the flowers and you still have to have your say!"

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xyz111 · 28/09/2024 20:52

He sounds awful Op, whether he's ill or not. If you don't want to move out, I would just do the bare minimum of help. Don't go out to places with him. Think of him like someone that just lives in your house. Next time, just you and DD go out for dinner.

gapattachment · 28/09/2024 19:55

Met44 · 28/09/2024 14:38

They really don't know the extent of it and I don't want to hurt them.

I would also never forgive myself if I left now, I would feel guilty. Everyone sees him as a Mr Nice Guy.
Imagine you hear a someone leaving their partner with a cancer diagnosis?

The treatment is going to be quite long, around 6 months and then a major operation. There is no guarantee that he will be cured or even survive the operation.

At the beginning it kind of bought us closer together but he has started to be unkind again. Not sure if it's his true colours or just the stress? That's why I feel so unsure if I'm being selfish?

I will give you an example of his behaviour.

It was my birthday the other day, We had arranged to meet DD in town where she is studying. She said book for 6pm as she wanted to do some shopping.
We arrived at 5pm and DH said let's pop into a bar for a quick drink.
DD phoned him and he said "we are here but take your time there is no rush".
She then phoned 20mins later to ask where we were and that she was at the restaurant. He told her we would be there shortly.
I said to him "come on let's just leave our drinks and go to her, she is sitting there alone."
He got really angry and said quite aggressively " We are not! Just sit there! Just sit there and don't move!"
I was literally frozen to the spot. When we got to the restaurant DD was a bit grumpy because she was tired and hungry. I apologised for keeping her waiting. After our meal we went home and he went and sat with DD and watched a series they have been watching together. I was a little upset but wasn't sure if I had a right to be?

Sorry for the essay :)

So your DD went to the restaurant early because he told her you were already there? And then he left her sitting there and was aggressive to you?

I would be upset if someone spoke to me like that even if it wasn't my birthday. And if that person treated me that way on a regular basis I expect I would be even more upset.

You're scared of him?

gapattachment · 28/09/2024 19:49

You don't have to keep his secrets, you need support too. Your needs are important.

Calling the Macmillan line is a good shout from pp.

You also have Samaritans if you want to be able to talk to someone in confidence who doesn't know any of you and won't share what you say. It's not just for people feeling suicidal, it's for anyone in distress who needs someone to listen to them. 116 123

Met44 · 28/09/2024 17:47

@Nanny0gg to a point but he is very careful when they are around.

A lot of things he said and done was when I was very ill. I don't want to tell them everything, it would only hurt them

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Nanny0gg · 28/09/2024 17:09

Your children must see how he treats you

Met44 · 28/09/2024 16:32

@5128gap thank you, your reply is very helpful

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