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Am I being selfish?

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Met44 · 28/09/2024 13:20

Married 22 years, not particularly a happy one. DH has been quite emotionally abusive, gaslights, putting me down etc.

Had a really bad few years with my mental health, hospital stay and DH wasn't very supportive.
Then had a major accident which left me bedridden for 6weeks. DH would cook for me but did little in the house and no emotional support at all.

We discussed splitting up but not really an option financially at the moment.

I decided to get myself together, make more friends and just have a life for myself.

DH was then diagnosed with life changing cancer. We pulled together and I have been supportive. The first six weeks he seemed appreciative, we started doing things together and I just wanted to be there for him every step of the way. He was snappy and irritated with me at times but I let it all go over my head, who wouldn't be snappy in that situation?

The last few weeks though he has returned to type. Being quite nasty and emotionally abusive. I'm torn because I know this is a difficult time for him but it's really upsetting.

Last night he was horrible and I snapped back and we argued. He told me he doesn't want me looking after him.

Im just feeling very low today. I have nobody to talk to because he doesn't want anyone knowing and I have to respect that.

Was I being selfish to snap back? Not sure if I should just keep my mouth shut whilst he is going through treatment?

I feel so sad but not sure if I'm being selfish in all this?

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Zonder · 12/07/2025 22:26

I'm really sorry to hear it's so hard. I don't know what you would be eligible for but I do think you need to make a break. Could you speak to a solicitor? How old are your children?

Thank you

My children are young adults, both at university.

I have a friend who is looking for a flatmate, but she lives 6 hours away. The rent would be £700 per month, I could go there and then look for a job. But I would be far away from family. Also don't have any savings and £6k of credit card debt. That is on 0% agreement though so paying it off.

We have no family money, I have asked to see the business accounts but he hasn't shown me yet. I really don't think there is alot in there, most probably very overdrawn. Not sure if my mental health can take the reality of the shit situation I'm in.

Thank you all for your replies

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OliveWah · 13/07/2025 00:16

Now your husband is "out of the woods", health wise, this is the perfect time to start to focus on yourself.

Have a look at the Gov's 'Entitled To' website, which should give you an idea of any benefits you may be entitled to. Book a half hour consultation with a solicitor to find out how divorce would work for you. Start getting together copies of bank statements, any investments, pensions etc., and yours and the kids passports.

It's time to start getting your ducks in a row! Hopefully having something to focus on, and knowing that the light at the end of the tunnel is a life free from your miserable, mean, horrible husband, should be the best motivation there is!

Whatdoidotoday · 12/07/2025 22:37

I’m sorry op. He sounds horrible prior to being sick. You did what you had to do to give yourself peace of mind during his illness. You have paid your dues to him well enough. It’s time to give yourself peace that you deserve. Leave him and just know that he is manipulating you.

Zonder · 12/07/2025 22:26

I'm really sorry to hear it's so hard. I don't know what you would be eligible for but I do think you need to make a break. Could you speak to a solicitor? How old are your children?

Met44 · 12/07/2025 15:26

Back again and thought I would give a little update.

Treatment is nearly over, outlook is good. So now some hard decisions need to be made I guess?

DH treatment of me has been awful. He said that he treated me so badly when I was ill because he was "going through his own mental health struggles at the time" First time he has ever said this and I feel it's only because the children are now aware of some of his behaviour.

I caught him and his brother making fun of my Sils weight. I told him I thought they were vile and disgusting. He replied "do you think I give a fuck what you think?"

He sometimes apologises for his behaviour by saying he isn't feeling well or "do you not think I have enough on my mind!"

He has handled his treatment really well and hasn't been sick or anything. Still continuing to drink and play football.

We haven't spoken for a few days as when were having a discussion with our son about a problem he has H shouted me down. I asked him not to speak to me like that and he replied with his usual "well you speak to me like that".
I was being very calm and he was raising his voice and refusing to listen to my input.
I just got up and went to another room, he tried to apologise saying he wasn't feeling well and I told him his apology was just lip service.

So now we have the silent treatment, I can't even look at him, I'm starting to hate him.

He spends a lot of his time looking at vile accounts online. Think women with huge inflated boobs. Not sure if he is using only fans but seeing that makes me feel physically sick.

I want to leave, my mental health is so bad, I really don't want to have to sell the family home, would I be eligible for any benefits? I know I need a job but my mental health is shot. We have no savings, I just don't know where to go for help?

Sorry, I'm really not sure why I'm posting this, I guess to keep a record of some sort. Hopefully I can look back on this one day, when I am free and happy....

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Met44 · 23/04/2025 12:04

Hey @OliveWah

In sorry I didn't see your post when I updated, thank you for such a lovely reply.
The thing that annoys me with the drinking is I know I'm not an alcoholic, it does maybe give me the strength to stand my corner, but I know this plays right into his hands.

Spoke to my DM she was ok, bit annoyed with me for playing into his hands but understands the pressure I'm under.

DC have been fine with me, had lots of cuddles from them but we haven't actually spoken about anything. I can't bring myself to speak about it all. I think like everyone they are just exhausted with it all.

My heart just breaks for them, this is not the family life I wanted for them. It's so difficult trying to keep a happy atmosphere when I have been abused for so long.

H and I are just ignoring each other, he will not try and sort things out to keep a happy house. It has always been me that has to approach him, say sorry and then be told everything that I do wrong.

Going to see my therapist today.

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Met44 · 21/04/2025 18:03

She just replied...OK

We are close but she can be very controlling. She messages me in the mornings "are you up?"
I then get at least 2 phone calls a day. If I don't answer she will message "I'm worried about you"

This can be suffocating so going to hers isn't really a break.

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OliveWah · 21/04/2025 18:01

OK @Met44, one step at a time. Have you had a shower today? If not, go and have one. Fresh clothes, brush your hair and off out for a walk, even if it's just around the block. Get some fresh air and some physical distance from the house where all this stressful stuff happened yesterday. You need to clearly show yourself a line in the sand that that was yesterday, and this is today, and we're leaving the stress of yesterday in the past, where it belongs.

You'll feel better than you do right now.

Your relationships with your DM and DC will be fine, right now you need to concentrate on picking yourself up and moving forwards. You can do this, I know everything feels insurmountable at the moment, but just focus on making yourself feel less shit right now. Put a podcast or some music on while you walk, it should stop you from ruminating and help stop repetitive thoughts.

Tomorrow is a new day. I'm not going to drink tonight, and I'm not planning to drink tomorrow, but even after 12 years, it's still one day at a time. So, I will not drink with you today if that helps at all @Met44? Care to join me? No pressure if you're not ready, but I promise you life will only get better when you are. You will feel more in control and much more able to cope when things do go wrong (as they inevitably do!) with the added bonus of not having to deal with the disappointment of your DM and listening to those cruel taunts about your drinking from your "D"H.

Glitchymn1 · 21/04/2025 17:54

You aren’t going to leave (I understand why).

I’d ‘separate’ (at least when the time comes) let G.P know and ensure there are carers put in place.

I’d be grateful for the silent treatment, by drinking you are playing into his hands. It looks likes you are being a drink around him when he has cancer, you are making yourself the problem. Don’t.
Stay out of his way as much as you can, it’s summer, go for walks, get out, take sandwiches if you have to. Meet friends, volunteer, get a job- just stay out of his way. Wait it out.
He won’t ignore you for long when he sees it doesn’t bother you anymore.

Do you usually have a good relationship with your mum? This is just a blip, you know you don’t have a drink problem, you drank, you vented, most people have been there. Speak to your mum and go there, maybe stay there a few nights a week if you can.

Zonder · 21/04/2025 17:24

Just go. Tell your mum how desperate the situation is and that you really don't want to drink.

Met44 · 21/04/2025 17:21

Thank you @OliveWah

I messaged my mum and said I wanted to be honest, I'd had a drink and an argument with H.
She has read it but not replied so guess she is angry 😢

I really couldn't go there as I was frightened to drive after drinking last night.

Been stuck in my cell, my DD has popped her head in to see if I'm ok. My DS is working today.

I think I just unleashed all the hurt and disappointment I was carrying last night. He is ignoring me and will get the silent treatment.

I was just so angry when he was defending his brother and shitting me down like his pig of a father. Not sure what happens now? I've managed to upset my mum and children, something else to torture myself with!

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OliveWah · 21/04/2025 16:44

I agree with @tryingtobesogood. Call your DM and tell her you had a bad day yesterday, drank too much and it didn't end well. You're not proud of the drinking, but could really do with some love and support today, so could we park the alcohol issue for today, you're going to get it under control but today, you just need your mum. I know if one of my DDs asked this of me, I would be happy to help.

FWIW, I had plenty of occasions where I either ruined a get together or was embarrassingly indiscrete because I had drunk too much, and it became clear I was an alcoholic. It tool several lapses before I was properly sober and each time I had a lapse, I remember fearing the judgement of my DM over all others (even DH), so I really empathise. You'll get sober when you're ready @Met44, and once you do, I promise you many things in life will become easier and better, in complete contrast to the story you're probably telling yourself at the moment (Nothing will ever be fun without alcohol/I need alcohol because I'm stressed etc. and all the other rubbish I remember telling myself!) Flowers

tryingtobesogood · 21/04/2025 13:45

I say this gently and with kindness. You have become frozen for fear of others anger with you. You are staying in a house where your husband is openly angry with you, and you will not leave for fear your mum will be angry with you. I am sure that if the two, your mums anger will come from a place of love and concern and once she has got over it, you will be in a better place than where you are now.

please please give yourself a break and go to your mums

Met44 · 21/04/2025 13:41

I can't go to my mums, she will be angry with me and I feel bad enough as it is.

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MaggieBsBoat · 21/04/2025 13:00

I second @tryingtobesogood. Get up. Get dressed. Walk out of the door.

tryingtobesogood · 21/04/2025 12:54

Get up, get into the shower and get dressed. Then go to your mums. Go. Just do it. I know it’s so very hard and everyone is upset with you but you really really need some physical distance between you and him right now.

please, please do this. Don’t sit in that room by yourself. Get up and get out.

Met44 · 21/04/2025 12:38

Thank you for your kind replies.

I am so angry with myself, I had too much to drink yesterday. His dad does that to his mum, shuts her down and she isn't allowed an opinion. I just saw red when he did that to me, especially as he was defending his disgusting brother who terrorised his wife and children.

Ive played right into his hands by having too much to drink. He was screaming at me "you are a disgusting alcoholic"

He has brought me to this, if he isn't being horrible he is ignoring me.

I was supposed to go to my mums today but I can't. I'm sitting in the tiny box room that feels like a cell. My mum will be very cross with me for drinking and playing into his hands.

The worse thing is I've upset my darling children who have been through so much. I really don't know where to turn.

But thank you for the validation, it really helps

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Zonder · 21/04/2025 08:56

He has been awful to you. The relationship is broken. It's hard because of the DC but they are not little children. Go to your sister's and begin to let yourself heal. You are not the person to care for this man through his treatment.

squirrelsarecute · 21/04/2025 08:44

Aww OP it feels like you are stuck in this impossible situation where you cannot escape. But this is how well he's manipulated things to keep you trapped. If you leave, he's made you feel you'll be the one in the wrong and a total horror for leaving someone with cancer. But all this time and all the years before he's been treating you horribly and controlling you.

It's very clever he is using the cancer card as a surface level more visible "thing" to pull out like how could you leave etc. I know you're worried the kids will blame you in the long run, but he's just been pulling the wool over their eyes as well and they can't currently see what's really going on.

The only thing for certain in all of this is that if you stay with him it won't change.
But I really get that leaving feels so, so hard and impossible, as you have to deal with not just him but your kids' reactions (until they realise what he's really like).
He's beaten you down for so many years it's going to ~feel~ selfish to even consider putting yourself first, but everyone on this thread is not wrong, you do not deserve to be treated this way and cancer or no cancer it's not ok. He's kept you beaten down for so long it's hard to see it AND believe you can (or should!) get away from it.

No one can appreciate how things really are as every relationship and situation is different. But all I know for sure is you do not deserve this and you should not have to force yourself through this. If you make a big change e.g. trying to leave or even have a break, of course there will be pushback because you're showing some fight for yourself and some autonomy which has been beaten out of you mentally. But you have to try to work towards survival and allowing yourself to believe, even just a tiny bit at a time, that you deserve better and you do not have to just give up no matter what your age etc is.

I wish there was a way to help you see it because I know it will feel impossible to with how things are right now, and how your head must be feeling!
If you could try to get even a couple of days away from him it might really help gain some perspective on things and give you some breathing room to think. It's too hard when you're in the environment all the time and he can keep saying things to keep you feeling down.

I'm wishing you all the strength in the world to get some space and telling you you have to protect yourself. It is not selfish, you are not selfish and you ARE worth looking after, but you have to find a way to allow yourself to start doing that. You may have to fake it in your head to allow it, as everything in you from all the years of his behaviour will scream at you you cannot do it or that you will be this terrible person if you do. Tell those voices they are wrong, even if you don't buy it. Keep saying it in your head. Keep reminding yourself what people have said here. Just allow these ideas to be there for a bit. Hopefully in time they'll start to get noisier and let you take steps towards getting some of your life back, little bits at a time.

MaggieBsBoat · 21/04/2025 07:45

Oh love.

leave.
Stay with your sister. Stay with any friend who will have you and care about you.
He is an emotional succubus.

tryingtobesogood · 20/04/2025 22:01

You need to leave and go and stay with your sister. Your H will be fine, there are other people who can look after him. The chemo probably won’t be that bad to begin with, and you will be stronger and more able to cope after a break.

your children will be fine, they can’t really be that naive about their dad surely.

put yourself first and have a break. It won’t make a difference, those that love you will understand and those who don’t - well fuck them.

Met44 · 20/04/2025 21:34

I feel just done . He now has the cancer card. I can't pretend I'm the concerned wife. I don't want him to die but I hate him. And now I've hurt my children and I don't know what to do ?

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Brefugee · 20/04/2025 21:27

Met44 · 07/12/2024 17:40

Thank you for your replies, I'm sitting here in tears because he has made me feel like im being overdramatic.

I really can't leave at the moment. I have literally no money, or job. The fallout if I left now would be horrific. Him and his family already say I'm overdramatic and make everything about me.

I just needed confirmation from outside as my family are biased apparently ?

sorry, edited as hadn't realised how long-running this is.

OP stay strong for yourself. Your "D"H can take care of himself.

Met44 · 20/04/2025 21:23

have
Now I'm the bad guy! I've had enough Bow he is playing the cancer card in so done, I can't win

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Met44 · 20/04/2025 21:13

I gave ruined their feelings for their dad and I feel awful

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