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I don’t want to give DD (17) gift cards for Christmas

186 replies

ForkTines · 27/09/2024 19:38

This is a genuine AIBU - be a bit gentle.

She’s just told me she wants an Amazon voucher and nothing else. She’s aware that there was a specific budget for the last two Christmases and says she wants that and will spend it as and when and has no plans so I have no idea what it’ll go on. She wants the same for her birthday in February. She’s lovely and says it will give her some freedom.

I’m bothered by this - I don’t think of presents as a money thing. She’s 17 - it’s not like I will lovingly wrap loads of wonderful things and she’s going to get me a Fabergé egg in return ( she’s broke most of the time, so I don’t expect anything, obviously) But I don’t feel comfortable that she sees the Christmas ‘budget’ as something she’s entitled to the way she’s entitled to a winter coat. Between close adults I think of presents as ritual acts of care through thoughtfulness. Like pebbles for penguins. I don’t want to dole it out in vouchers. If my husband got me an Amazon voucher I’d be really quite sad.

I also know I like choosing and buying her presents, so I might be being touchy about letting go or that she might have not liked something/s I’ve bought her.

I’m not sure if I’m being a sentimental looney or stopping in its tracks a tit for tat voucher exchange transaction every year when she leaves home.

For context on her cash flow etc - she gets £50 per month pocket money for keeping all the floors of the house consistently clean - hoover or mop as needed - and both toilets scrubbed without ever having to be nagged or me think about it. She’s a lovely, kind, straight A kid. I have no complaints.

OP posts:
StarieNight · 28/09/2024 22:48

Both dd have asked for Money.

I will give them money and also some smaller gifts, maybe clothes both still like lego etc books...

But the main gift will be money.

Xmas has changed but in many ways it's nicer because they can choose and save as they wish. But obviously that dynamic has changed and Xmas will change.

SallyWD · 28/09/2024 22:45

Paisleydad · 27/09/2024 19:42

I HATE giving gift cards.

It's like saying that I don't know the recipient well enough / couldn't be bothered to give it thought.

It also seems to say how much that person is worth to me.

All your points aren't really relevant if this is what the daughter wants and has asked for.

MayaPinion · 28/09/2024 22:39

OrdsallChord · 28/09/2024 18:45

Yes, there's something very selfish about establishing a rule that allows one person in the house to make present giving about their preferences.

God forbid somebody should ask for something they actually want.

MayaPinion · 28/09/2024 22:38

Put the cash in her account and get her a box of Celebrations. That’s what she wants. She doesn’t want tat from B&M or M&S or wherever. She’s saving you a lot of time and likely money. Appreciate that, and give her a voucher with love.

OrdsallChord · 28/09/2024 18:45

NowImNotDoingIt · 28/09/2024 16:06

Then, just like OP, you're making it all about you and what you want, rather than the receiver.

Yes, there's something very selfish about establishing a rule that allows one person in the house to make present giving about their preferences.

RhiWrites · 28/09/2024 18:41

Mercurial123 · 27/09/2024 20:40

But it's not about you is it?

It’s about both giver and receiver.

i don’t give money or gift cards, I give presents. Maybe they don’t always hit the mark but they’re given with thought and care. (And FWIW I have been told I’m good at it.)

This isn’t a transaction of handing over a prescribed amount of money that’s owed. It’s my choice to give presents to my family members and it’s about our relationship: a test of how well I know them, of creativity and imagination.

The ideal present is something you wouldn’t have thought of yourself but are thrilled to get.

Evilartsgrad · 28/09/2024 18:07

NowImNotDoingIt · 28/09/2024 16:06

Then, just like OP, you're making it all about you and what you want, rather than the receiver.

Yup. And how many of her gifts end up in the charity shop, I wonder?

I always ask, I always say. Enough time and money wasted on guesswork.

Evilartsgrad · 28/09/2024 18:05

Phen0menon · 27/09/2024 23:08

Money/vouchers are not really a gift imho.

A gift is something that the buyer puts thought into, not a means of the recipient accessing cash to spend.

If that's what the recipient wants, that IS putting thought into it.

bugaboofan · 28/09/2024 16:37

I can see the attraction from her side, she can get herself things as and when she wants them which really is a gift that keeps on giving!

I see what you're saying though and could you perhaps get her a voucher of slightly less value than the full budget and then also get a few wrap up bits- scented candle, fluffy socks, chocolate etc to feel a bit more festive on the day?

gannett · 28/09/2024 16:13

When I was a teenager all I wanted was cash or vouchers instead of gifts. I wanted to buy CDs and books and clothes and there was no chance my parents would have got my taste in any of that right (or if they did, it would be something I already owned). I still remember getting a Take That album instead of Hole, then a few years later the Corrs instead of Lauryn Hill, "because you like music". Just no.

Teenagers ultimately want freedom and choice to get the things they want, not what their parents think they want. Denying them that because of your own feelings about gift-giving is frankly a bit controlling.

NowImNotDoingIt · 28/09/2024 16:06

Commonsense22 · 28/09/2024 14:47

OP, I get you. There's something so transactional with vouchers. It sounds though like your daughter could benefit from a little more of her own cash to spend, which could be solved by her getting a job.

Most people here will just say give vouchers, but you can fully establish a rule that in your house, gifts can't be cash. I don't think I would ever give a voucher either.

Then, just like OP, you're making it all about you and what you want, rather than the receiver.

Motherland2624 · 28/09/2024 15:19

That’s a small amount of pocket money for a 17 year old what does she have to buy out of that ?

Allthehorsesintheworld · 28/09/2024 14:51

It’s what teenagers want. I clearly remember my kids getting to the money for Christmas stage and now dgc are reaching it I’m over the moon. So much easier and they can buy what they want when they want. I’d rather £100 went on something they want than something I choose that gets out in a drawer.
I’ve always done a stocking for dc and dgc so stuff that with small fun stuff.

Commonsense22 · 28/09/2024 14:47

OP, I get you. There's something so transactional with vouchers. It sounds though like your daughter could benefit from a little more of her own cash to spend, which could be solved by her getting a job.

Most people here will just say give vouchers, but you can fully establish a rule that in your house, gifts can't be cash. I don't think I would ever give a voucher either.

lemmein · 28/09/2024 14:15

ForkTines · 27/09/2024 20:36

Hooboy - I’ve not posted on AIBU for a few years and it’s just as bracing as I thought it might be! 🙂 Like I said - it’s a genuine AIBU (as in I’ve not decided if I’m being unreasonable and am fully aware of the genuine possibility that I am).

Very grateful for all the forthright responses. My main thing is, as some others have said, that I find vouchers soulless. I’d buy her anything, forever that she needed. I feel like gift giving should involve thought and don’t want to nuture an idea that it’s expected, transactional or meaningless. I also accept I might be being sentimental and need to get a grip.

I’ve never bought anyone a generic bit of tat and think that’s genuinely pointless. Nobody needs a body wash and scrub set.

I haven't RTFT but I'd compromise and give her what she wants but also do a small stocking - it doesn't have to be expensive....some chocs/pjs/book, then you'll both be happy!

Beezknees · 28/09/2024 11:54

Alectoishome · 28/09/2024 08:15

I'd just give her the voucher and then one or two inexpensive gifts chosen with thought, like books.

I do agree with you though, I hate voucher exchange culture at Christmas. It is soulless. But then I also hate needless gifts. I'm trying to make it more about books in my family, everyone text a little list of books they'd like for ideas.

Last year my DM got me the book I wanted but had put an amazon voucher inside it 😆

See, I like reading, but I wouldn't want to receive books, I live in a small flat and do not have the space to keep books, I use a kindle and borrow from the library.

OrdsallChord · 28/09/2024 11:43

Nicebloomers · 28/09/2024 11:24

The people who are the most ‘I only buy gifts not gift cards’ are usually the ones with the least nouse for what the recipient would actually like to receive and think they are the most thoughtful and best gift-giver ever. They tend to buy what they think the recipient should want. Because it’s all about them.

Yes, sadly some people aren't as good at choosing physical item gifts as they think they are.

Asyoulikeit123 · 28/09/2024 11:39

I understand the way you feel but honestly I'd just give her what she wants for Christmas, she is at an age when she wants to get her own bits - so that's fair enough xx

Anotherparkingthread · 28/09/2024 11:30

I think she's old enough to choose her own things, she sensibly would rather have the money available to buy things throughout the year when things crop up that she wants or needs instead of having a ton of stuff she may not even like for Christmas.

Why don't you tell her that you don't want to lose christmas tradition so three quarters of the amount will be in voucher form and the last bit will be spent on a gift so she has something to open on Christmas day. It doesn't have to be black and white you can let her grow up a little bit without losing anything.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 28/09/2024 11:24

bergamotorange · 28/09/2024 07:48

It's not about being 'spoiled' IMO. Our current gift-giving culture is fairly young in mainstream society, but comes from a period when people didn't have much, the range of goods on offer was more limited and the things we woild be given were more similar/predictable as both society and wishes were more restricted.

These days people regularly get bought things that are duplicates, completely unnecessary or just unsuitable. Very few people need anything and it's actually quite hard to think of things if asked for ideas. Also a great many people need money for essentials or time more than a 'gift'.

I think it's ok for gift-giving to evolve again to better fit the current situation in society.

Edited

This is a very thoughtful post.

Nicebloomers · 28/09/2024 11:24

The people who are the most ‘I only buy gifts not gift cards’ are usually the ones with the least nouse for what the recipient would actually like to receive and think they are the most thoughtful and best gift-giver ever. They tend to buy what they think the recipient should want. Because it’s all about them.

Alicana · 28/09/2024 11:22

Why wouldn’t you want to make your daughter happy? What if your husband only liked giving Amazon vouchers even if you’d expressed a preference for a present?

It sounds like you aren’t really thinking of others, just yourself, which to me sounds the opposite of Christmas.

OrdsallChord · 28/09/2024 11:14

My main thing is, as some others have said, that I find vouchers soulless. I’d buy her anything, forever that she needed. I feel like gift giving should involve thought and don’t want to nuture an idea that it’s expected, transactional or meaningless. I also accept I might be being sentimental and need to get a grip.

There's a lot about your feelings in there and nothing at all about hers.

DinosaurMunch · 28/09/2024 11:08

ForkTines · 27/09/2024 20:36

Hooboy - I’ve not posted on AIBU for a few years and it’s just as bracing as I thought it might be! 🙂 Like I said - it’s a genuine AIBU (as in I’ve not decided if I’m being unreasonable and am fully aware of the genuine possibility that I am).

Very grateful for all the forthright responses. My main thing is, as some others have said, that I find vouchers soulless. I’d buy her anything, forever that she needed. I feel like gift giving should involve thought and don’t want to nuture an idea that it’s expected, transactional or meaningless. I also accept I might be being sentimental and need to get a grip.

I’ve never bought anyone a generic bit of tat and think that’s genuinely pointless. Nobody needs a body wash and scrub set.

Gift giving should indeed involve thought - about what the recipient would most like and enjoy. If the thought is about what you want then that's not the right kind of thought.

Vouchers isn't soulless if that's what someone wants.

Teenagers want choice and control over their own lives and usually have limited money. The pleasure for her is in the freedom of choice and browsing the items as well as the monetary value. If you give her what you want instead of what she has specifically asked for, I really don't see the point. She will be disappointed.

I also wouldn't get her a different kind of voucher. That is also just making it about you. Get her exactly what she wants. You can always get a couple of token gifts to unwrap on the day.

Magnastorm · 28/09/2024 11:06

She's 17, not 7.

She wants the freedom and independence of being able to choose what she wants herself.