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Unsure how to handle DH

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unsurewhattodowithdh · 27/09/2024 18:26

DH is depressed at the minute, and I find myself feeling less sympathetic than I'd like to be.

I am sympathetic. I feel awful for him, and I've helped him to arrange some counselling of which he's had three sessions. He's having a nightmare at work, which used to be his safe space/way to take his mind off things. He's having multiple family issues which are bringing up a lot of his childhood trauma, and to top it all off, we just had a baby four months ago (our first).

So I really am sympathetic, my heart breaks for him. But I also have been quite severely depressed in the past, and I had to keep functioning. He didn't give me any extra support. He goes to work but he barely does anything with the baby, it's all on me and I'm working too (although at a much reduced capacity, only a few hours a week) and do most of the home stuff because he works long hours. He doesn't have anyone to talk to except me, and I try my best.

He's been home for an hour now and is just sat outside in his car. We were talking on the phone and he just cut it off, I'm hungry and trying to manage the baby, I only have a small window between her feeds to get anything done (breasted) and she doesn't like much to be put down, I don't know if I should wait for him but then she might be crying when he comes in and I can't get up to cook it, or just make mine now but end up having to cook twice or risk her crying again, etc. I don't know what to do, and I don't know why he can't just come in and be depressed in here. I feel like this is the first time in our relationship that I should come first but he's found a way to make it about him again, and I feel absolutely awful for thinking/saying that but it's how I feel.

I think I'm also a bit resentful that he's being like this now we have a baby, we've wanted one for so, so long and really struggled to have her. I'm trying so, so hard to not let his depression affect me but it is, I was so happy at first but I've been feeling really anxious with everything.

I just don't know what to do and I wouldn't let on to him but AIBU to be... I don't know, struggling with this all at the minute?

OP posts:
IamSallyBowles · 27/09/2024 23:29

unsurewhattodowithdh · 27/09/2024 23:12

Just to be clear - he wouldn’t say I couldn’t go out. But he wouldn’t have to say anything for me to know his preference would be for me to keep him company. He might want to go out, but one weekend he didn’t and if he says that this week I just can’t face the idea of being cooped up all day.

I do have support in my family and best friend. My family do their best to support him too but he doesn’t have a lot from his side.

I know I can’t fix it for him, I’m honestly partly just scared to death as well. I lost a close family member to suicide a few years ago and Im terrified of losing DH the same way. I think that’s why I’ve probably been pandering to him a bit too much.

you have to put yourself and DD first and you have to tell him, you will go out. But you also have to tell him you will support him get better. you can do both.

With my DH he would have gone on forever like this if I hadn't pushed him to get help.

Rhaidimiddim · 27/09/2024 23:27

Patienceinshortsupply · 27/09/2024 21:49

He doesn't like you leaving him alone but he can sit in the car by himself for over an hour? Love, he's playing you like a violin.

I strongly suggest building YOU a support network because this doesn't sound like a man who wants to help himself very much. We've all got childhood trauma in some ways, I could write a book about my parents god awful behaviour but I'm not inflicting that onto my kids. And neither should he be.

A-fucking-men!
Sorry OP, but you've had a child with a man who is (a) not able to be a parent ( not necessarily his fault, depending on what is wrong with him) and (b) is dragging you down with his problems.

He has a child. If he can't muck in with the parenting, he should at least try not to be a drain on you.

Oh, and - from experience - I suspect another woman on the horizon.

So, please stop centring his feelings and start looking out for yourself and your baby. Soneone has to.

hettie · 27/09/2024 23:15

@unsurewhattodowithdh
He won’t go on medication because he takes other medication for a health condition that he would be worried wouldn’t work well together, which I understand.
Is he consultant psychiatrist,vor pharmacist, does he have a medical degree?
If not he needs to see a registered professional (not a counsellor, who are fine for talking through/exploring life issues, but aren't qualified to deal with medication reviews or deliver evidence based psychological therapies). A GP or specialist can help with medication and appropriate therapy. You can't fix this for him, but you can decide on your boundaries and support reasonable steps to recovery.

unsurewhattodowithdh · 27/09/2024 23:12

Just to be clear - he wouldn’t say I couldn’t go out. But he wouldn’t have to say anything for me to know his preference would be for me to keep him company. He might want to go out, but one weekend he didn’t and if he says that this week I just can’t face the idea of being cooped up all day.

I do have support in my family and best friend. My family do their best to support him too but he doesn’t have a lot from his side.

I know I can’t fix it for him, I’m honestly partly just scared to death as well. I lost a close family member to suicide a few years ago and Im terrified of losing DH the same way. I think that’s why I’ve probably been pandering to him a bit too much.

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CheekyAquaBeaker · 27/09/2024 23:12

Im so sorry you’re in this situation. Depression is awful but he needs to do more to address it and a anxiety that meds he already takes might hypothetically interact with antidepressants is not reasonable under these circumstances. I’m a psychiatrist and there will be a medication that will be safe to take alongside whatever he’s on now. In his position id be much more worried about you burning out and him failing to form a relationship with his child than maybe possibly some side effects. I’m sure a medical professional could work with him to find something that is safe and tolerable to him.

SleepPrettyDarling · 27/09/2024 23:04

I would tell him YOU have to have support and that means creating a support network for HIM. You can’t shoulder this on your own. GP appointment, a friend to take him out for lunch or a pint, assistance through work. It’s incredibly difficult to parent on your own, and frustrating when you actually have a SO who for whatever reason is not present for you.

PickAChew · 27/09/2024 23:04

TemuSpecialBuy · 27/09/2024 20:39

This.

sitting in the fucking car outside for an hour is ridiculous.
he could sit in the house and hold the baby.
I’d have lost my mind by now putting up with this arseholery,

stop cooking, washing his clothes cleaning his dishes and whatever other nonsense you are doing for him.
look after your baby and yourself.
the very least he can do is sort himself out.

he needs to get it together or leave you to get on with it.

I feel incredibly sorry for you that he is doing this to you at the one of the hardest most vulnerable times of your life. It’s utterly selfish.

Edited

This.

Just crack on with what you need to do and don't expend your precious resources on him for any more than you absolutely need to. Your main priorities are your little one and the mother they need.

IamSallyBowles · 27/09/2024 22:59

DH did similar after our first was born. I treated it as though he had PND. I spoke to my GP and when they were checking if I was OK (I was) I said that I thought mt DH had PND. Dr was great, and said it's more common that you'd think. I told DH that we had a newborn and that he needed to see the Dr because I wasn't able to help him. He was opposed, I said I couldn't cope with the both of them and that baby would win at the moment. He didn't believe he had anything that could be fixed by a doctor and the Dr would send him away. I agreed that if the Dr did, I would abide by Dr diagnosis as long as he was honest and as long as he accept what the Dr said if they agreed with me that he needed help. Dr agreed with me, DH reluctantly had anti depressants and CBT. Many years later he is glad I pushed him into getting help and he advises anyone who will listen to him that they should respect their partner's opinion if they suggest help.

I haven't read all of these replies but the PP who said he can't be depressed if he is going to work , is talking nonsence! loads of people can hold it together for works and then fall apart as soon as they get home.

BettyBardMacDonald · 27/09/2024 22:28

loropianalover · 27/09/2024 18:38

Does he sit outside work in the car and not go in?

Bingo.

colette1970 · 27/09/2024 22:26

If your uk see if your local area has something called Andy man club is usually found on Facebook is a group for men to talk through mental health etc without women there so they open up more ,I told my neighbour about it last year as he was depressed he said was better than going doctors ,as he was around others who are going through it and others that have gone through it and offer real advise ,hope this helps .

Bearpawk · 27/09/2024 22:23

If he's so depressed that he can't face coming into the family home on an evening - he needs serious help. Same as if he had a physical condition that was stopping him from parenting - he'd seek help right ? I'd be inclined to give him an ultimatum - take some steps (with your support) towards getting treatment for his depression or take it elsewhere as you do not have the resources to look after both him and a small baby.

Reachforthestars00 · 27/09/2024 22:23

A few practical suggestions for you lovely

Buy some nice ready meals. Ideally something you can eat with one hand. Ease the burden of cooking and washing up for a while.

Know that it's OK to put baby down, and for baby to cry, while you take 5 mins to wash, toilet, cook, eat etc. Baby will be OK. You need time for you too.

If it ever stops raining, get out with baby for a walk and some fresh air. It will do you the world of good. Husband can come with you, or not, his choice.

smalltoe · 27/09/2024 22:22

Skyrainlight · 27/09/2024 19:58

Wow, just reading some of the comments here. Clearly these people have no idea about depression. OP I'd be very wary of listening to some of these comments. He needs help, help him to get it.

And you appear to have no idea about having a young baby and working. She has no more capacity to help him. If she falls apart who is going to look after the baby. Yes he's important. But so is she and ultimately the BABY comes first.

smalltoe · 27/09/2024 22:21

MangoAndLimeNandos · 27/09/2024 19:08

Just because YOU got on with things whilst depressed it doesn’t diminish what he’s going through. He’s struggling and you try to say you are sympathising with him etc but it doesn’t sound like it.

She's got a 4 month old baby and works ffs. She's got no more capacity.

spanieleyes22 · 27/09/2024 22:15

What the other posters are saying could be very true as well. Men can become depressed after the baby is born. Sounds like he needs medication. Is he not going to be so sad that he is missing these precious precious weeks/months of his baby's life . For me medication just helps me want to do stuff. Like talking a walk etc. when you're v depressed you can't do things but the meds help get you out of that rut. He needs an appt asap. And yes you're his partner not his mental health Counsellor. Poor you it's very hard

TemuSpecialBuy · 27/09/2024 22:13

Would it be cruel of me if he said he didn’t want to go out at the weekend, to leave him at home and take DD out by myself for an hour or two? Even though he doesn’t like being on his own?

Absolutely not.
he is apparently fine sitting in his car on his own... tell him to sit there and do your own thing.

You need to find your anger or at least prioritise yourself.
He is robbing you of this time with your baby - you will never get this time back.
Go to baby classes, sign up for peanut and make some local mum friends. Do whatever you want and go wherever.
Do not let him control you and trap you in your house.

I'd also point out to him that a medical professional is better qualified to tell him what he can and cant take. ALL antidepressants arent incompatible with heart conditions...

Do you have any family or froends who can help or support you or just provide some relief from him???

GeorgeTheFirst · 27/09/2024 22:12

Unless he's a pharmacist he doesn't get to say he can't take antidepressants with his existing meds, it's an excuse. He needs to get to the GP.

And you need to take care of yourself. Take some time and see some other people, you need and deserve that.

ThorndonCream · 27/09/2024 22:11

There is a lot of medical expertise on drug interactions. Has he actually been told by any medical professional that there is a problem with taking antidepressants with his current medication? If he is just thinking there might be a problem without finding out, I'd be out of sympathy. The idea that you should stay home with him at the weekends being miserable just gives me rage on your behalf. You are not meant to be his skivy and mental health worker while he explores childhood traumas and skulks about the place. He might be depressed but he is certainly selfish and thoughtless. If my husband came in after sitting in the car for an hour while I'd been looking after a baby all day on my own having decimated my career because he wont lift a finger round the house, my first impulse would not be to have a warm dinner for him. I think you need to get a lot more selfish about what you need and expect.

spanieleyes22 · 27/09/2024 22:10

unsurewhattodowithdh · 27/09/2024 21:33

Ive come up to bed with baby now, he finally came back in just as I posted so I’ve only just read the replies and I’m a bit choked up. I thought you’d all be telling me how awful I am for feeling like this.

He won’t go on medication because he takes other medication for a health condition that he would be worried wouldn’t work well together, which I understand. He’s already started counselling to address some of the family issues, but it’s early days yet. He is trying to sort himself out and he is going through a lot.

I think the thing I’m finding hardest is he just doesn’t seem to care about DD at all. And he could help me so much with her by doing hardly anything and he just won’t. I don’t know how he can sit downstairs while DD is crying up here because I’ve had to put her down to set the bedroom up for our bedtime routine - if he just held her for those few minutes she wouldn’t have to cry. Or better yet, set the bedroom up. It wouldn’t matter how I was feeling, I couldn’t not hold a crying baby. If I give her to him, he’ll hold her but he won’t interact with her so she’ll cry and then he’ll say she hates him.

Would it be cruel of me if he said he didn’t want to go out at the weekend, to leave him at home and take DD out by myself for an hour or two? Even though he doesn’t like being on his own?

Edited

As OP my heart goes out to you. And to your dh. Especially when you've waited so long for a baby. I've been in both your places tbh. I've been very depressed but also had an ex who had depression. It's so frustrating and difficult for both of you. Being depressed myself sometimes what helped me was a bit of tough love. Depression is selfish it's true. Someone gave me tough love once and even though it hurt at the time it did jolt me into trying to help myself rather than wallowing so much. Having an ex who was depressed a lot - I used to go out just me and the baby or children. I wanted to enjoy her they are babies for such a short time so try not to feel guilty about wanting to make the most of every minute. And being around people who are excited to see the baby is ok and good for you. Your dh needs to discuss medication with his gp and not make his own decisions about what medication combinations he can or can't take. There's usually some combination that will work: if I were you I'd take a bit of a step back. And what would happen if you forced him to hold the baby. Just hand her over. And go upstairs?

Velvian · 27/09/2024 22:04

Do either if you have parents nearby that can come to help (with DH i mean)?

Is he pressuring you to keep it quiet at all? You really need support with this.

Aquamarine1029 · 27/09/2024 21:59

YellowRoom · 27/09/2024 21:57

What? You can't go out because he doesn't want to be left alone! That is very worrying - he's controlling you.

The description of how he treats your DD is so sad.

He doesn't want to be left alone with a baby.

He can still outside alone in his car perfectly well, though, can't he?

WallabyJob · 27/09/2024 21:59

You need to google ‘over responsibility’ and think about getting yourself some psychotherapy.

You’re not responsible for him and you don’t need him to ‘help you’ with the baby, that is his baby, he’s not helping you

Mischance · 27/09/2024 21:58

Depression is a grim illness and in a different league from feeling low. It needs to be treated. He must see his GP.

But him being ill does not mean you cease to be important and have valid needs of your own. You cannot mother him out of this - he needs proper treatment.

Getting people to accept treatment is very hard I know - I have been where you are. But you cannot take responsibility for making him better any more than you could mend his broken leg.

Aquamarine1029 · 27/09/2024 21:57

I've always been amazed at how many men become "depressed" once a baby is born and all the attention isn't on them anymore, and shocker, they're now expected to pitch in and do their share when they used to just sit on their arse and be catered to. Interesting how that happens. *insert eye roll here

YellowRoom · 27/09/2024 21:57

What? You can't go out because he doesn't want to be left alone! That is very worrying - he's controlling you.

The description of how he treats your DD is so sad.