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Unsure how to handle DH

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unsurewhattodowithdh · 27/09/2024 18:26

DH is depressed at the minute, and I find myself feeling less sympathetic than I'd like to be.

I am sympathetic. I feel awful for him, and I've helped him to arrange some counselling of which he's had three sessions. He's having a nightmare at work, which used to be his safe space/way to take his mind off things. He's having multiple family issues which are bringing up a lot of his childhood trauma, and to top it all off, we just had a baby four months ago (our first).

So I really am sympathetic, my heart breaks for him. But I also have been quite severely depressed in the past, and I had to keep functioning. He didn't give me any extra support. He goes to work but he barely does anything with the baby, it's all on me and I'm working too (although at a much reduced capacity, only a few hours a week) and do most of the home stuff because he works long hours. He doesn't have anyone to talk to except me, and I try my best.

He's been home for an hour now and is just sat outside in his car. We were talking on the phone and he just cut it off, I'm hungry and trying to manage the baby, I only have a small window between her feeds to get anything done (breasted) and she doesn't like much to be put down, I don't know if I should wait for him but then she might be crying when he comes in and I can't get up to cook it, or just make mine now but end up having to cook twice or risk her crying again, etc. I don't know what to do, and I don't know why he can't just come in and be depressed in here. I feel like this is the first time in our relationship that I should come first but he's found a way to make it about him again, and I feel absolutely awful for thinking/saying that but it's how I feel.

I think I'm also a bit resentful that he's being like this now we have a baby, we've wanted one for so, so long and really struggled to have her. I'm trying so, so hard to not let his depression affect me but it is, I was so happy at first but I've been feeling really anxious with everything.

I just don't know what to do and I wouldn't let on to him but AIBU to be... I don't know, struggling with this all at the minute?

OP posts:
Motnight · 28/09/2024 10:47

thepariscrimefiles · 28/09/2024 09:38

OP has already helped him to get counselling. She is doing everything in the house and everything with the baby, as well as working a few hours a week.

What else do you expect her to do?

I agree with this. At the rate that Op is going she will end up properly physically and mentally ill. She can't take on anything more.

Notthisone · 28/09/2024 09:53

unsurewhattodowithdh · 27/09/2024 21:33

Ive come up to bed with baby now, he finally came back in just as I posted so I’ve only just read the replies and I’m a bit choked up. I thought you’d all be telling me how awful I am for feeling like this.

He won’t go on medication because he takes other medication for a health condition that he would be worried wouldn’t work well together, which I understand. He’s already started counselling to address some of the family issues, but it’s early days yet. He is trying to sort himself out and he is going through a lot.

I think the thing I’m finding hardest is he just doesn’t seem to care about DD at all. And he could help me so much with her by doing hardly anything and he just won’t. I don’t know how he can sit downstairs while DD is crying up here because I’ve had to put her down to set the bedroom up for our bedtime routine - if he just held her for those few minutes she wouldn’t have to cry. Or better yet, set the bedroom up. It wouldn’t matter how I was feeling, I couldn’t not hold a crying baby. If I give her to him, he’ll hold her but he won’t interact with her so she’ll cry and then he’ll say she hates him.

Would it be cruel of me if he said he didn’t want to go out at the weekend, to leave him at home and take DD out by myself for an hour or two? Even though he doesn’t like being on his own?

Edited

He really should discuss medication with his GP they will be able to ger specialist advice if required.

There are a number of options that can be prescribed alongside other medications.

I really think you should get out with the baby over the weekend even if he doesn't want to.

You are doing a fantastic job. You need to focus on meeting your needs so you don't burn out. DH needs to take some personal responsibility and do what ever he can to improve his depression

Cherrysoup · 28/09/2024 09:53

Gently, OP, stop making excuses for him and giving reasons for his behaviour. Look after yourself, merrily stroll past the car with your dd, go for a walk, go to a baby group/to see your family, get on with it. He prefers you to be in the house with him smacks of control, you need to get out, he needs to see a doctor. If he won’t help himself, why should you? I have little sympathy (been through it with a depressed/bipolar family member) when they won’t help themselves. Look after yourself and your baby. Access as much support for yourself as you can from family and friends.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/09/2024 09:38

Skyrainlight · 27/09/2024 19:58

Wow, just reading some of the comments here. Clearly these people have no idea about depression. OP I'd be very wary of listening to some of these comments. He needs help, help him to get it.

OP has already helped him to get counselling. She is doing everything in the house and everything with the baby, as well as working a few hours a week.

What else do you expect her to do?

Patienceinshortsupply · 28/09/2024 09:33

I would suggest that you contact his GP surgery. They won't share any medical information BUT you can put them in the picture and share your concerns. If you ring them, they'll give you an email address or you may be able to fill a contact form out online. I did this when my Dad first fell ill and they were brilliant, got him in under the pretense of a medication review and went from there. If he's worried about medication interacting, then he needs to know about alternatives and I'd question how he found this out too ie from a qualified Doctor and not Doctor Google.

You can support him without enabling him to carry on like this, if that makes sense. And if you are scared about suicide, then that's all the more reason to get help on board asap. I really feel for you, life's hard enough with a newborn baby let alone coping with this on top.

GabriellaMontez · 28/09/2024 09:32

Would it be cruel of me if he said he didn’t want to go out at the weekend, to leave him at home and take DD out by myself for an hour or two? Even though he doesn’t like being on his own?

As others have said, he's fine alone in the car.

Your baby would probably love some fresh air and outside scenery. It might help her sleep later too.

Laszlomydarling · 28/09/2024 09:18

However you decide to move forward with your husband, please remember that you are the one doing all the caring for your baby, and as such, you MUST look after yourself. You will not be able to effectively care for your baby if you sink into this depression with your husband.

So eat when you're hungry, get out for fresh air and exercise. Do nice things for yourself. It might mean some practical changes now. Make sure you have plenty of easy snacks, ready meals to hand. See if a family member can take baby for a few hours a week to give you a moment to breathe. Talk to friends and family about how you feel.

Definitely push antidepressants. When he's able to listen, tell him how you felt last night. Try and make him understand the effect it's having on you, and ask him why he won't help with the baby.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 28/09/2024 09:11

Whether he's depressed or not, he sounds very manipulative and not particularly pleasant to be around.

You're spending your evening talking to your husband on the phone while he sulks in the car outside, to the point where you're not even cooking yourself meals? And he's manipulating you into staying in all the time too?

Honestly, fuck him.

BurbageBrook · 28/09/2024 09:08

HoppingPavlova · 28/09/2024 00:47

I don’t know how he can sit downstairs while DD is crying up here because I’ve had to put her down to set the bedroom up for our bedtime routine - if he just held her for those few minutes she wouldn’t have to cry. Or better yet, set the bedroom up

I don’t disagree that your DH is being a selfish twat. You need to prioritise yourself and the baby. However, you are showing some pretty unhealthy behaviour as well. Babies cry. They just do. Trying to tie yourself, and everyone else in knots so they don’t cry is not healthy. It will in no way hurt your baby to cry while you put them down to set up your bedroom, given this takes a standard amount of time and not hours. If you had other children, a toddler etc then sometimes they have the immediate need and baby has to cry for a bit, all normal, no harm done whatsoever. Being less tense about this aspect will likely benefit yourself and DH.

It's totally normal for a new mum to feel stressed when their baby cries and to want support to minimise that happening.

Gettingbysomehow · 28/09/2024 09:03

Definitely step back. Stop accommodating him. Tell him he will have to see GP/get counselling for his depression. He is destroying your early days and memories with your baby.
Make yourself a sandwich and leave him to cook for himself.
If the house is a mess who cares.
A lot of men act up like this with a new baby because they resent not being the centre of attention any more. You need to make it clear you only have the energy to look after the baby right now.

3luckystars · 28/09/2024 08:59

And I am also picking up ‘other woman’ vibes. I think there is more going on here, I hope he goes to the GP and talks to them this week. You can’t fix it. Try to enjoy your baby and focus on that joy if you can.
Good luck x x

3luckystars · 28/09/2024 08:52

Has he spoken to the GP about the medications and if they are safe together ?

Don’t believe what he says about that, he might just not want to take antidepressants, which is his choice but you don’t have to live with it if he makes this choice.

if he has an Employee Assistance Program, there is FREE counselling, it is completely confidential and that covers YOU also. You can call them confidentially and privately and you can get support too for yourself because he is looking after himself first. You are left holding the baby.

StormingNorman · 28/09/2024 08:40

I’ve done this. Sometimes depression is so exhausting and so overwhelming I’d need to sit in the car for an hour to get the energy to go In the house after driving home.

FWIW I wasn’t shirking anything. I lived alone.

Skyrainlight · 28/09/2024 07:26

smalltoe · 27/09/2024 22:22

And you appear to have no idea about having a young baby and working. She has no more capacity to help him. If she falls apart who is going to look after the baby. Yes he's important. But so is she and ultimately the BABY comes first.

Having a father and husband who is mentally coping and able to help is putting the baby first. Especially as all I am suggesting is booking him a GP appointment for medication and getting them to refer him for talking therapies. It literally takes the burden off OP to get him professional help.

Happyinarcon · 28/09/2024 05:09

It does sound a tiny bit like your husband has conjured up a mental illness because he’s competing for your attention. Sitting in the car could just be childish attention seeking. I would start acting like a single mother and rely on him just for monetary support. Please don’t let him draw your attention away from your baby, you will look back with so much sadness and resentment that you didn’t see through his crap earlier and allowed him to rob you of this special time as a mother.

Also worth considering, if you stop giving him attention for being depressed he’ll come up with some other ailment to grab your attention with, maybe he’ll decide he’s been sexually abused as a kid or something. I sound cold hearted but I’ve been in your situation and watched my partner cycle through attention seeking tactics to see which one works the best.

Disturbtheuniverse · 28/09/2024 04:50

OP, you sound like a very lovely person. To me, you do sound sympathetic and are trying to keep everything together for your family whilst your DH sorts out his mental health (with your encouragement).

However, I agree with the posts saying put yourself and your baby first. Go out when you want to, it is good for you and the baby. Meet friends and family without DH when you want. Absolutely do not cook twice! Make one big pot of something he can reheat, and freeze some of it for another time (once the baby starts weaning, you don't want to be preparing 3 separate meals!). Your DH also needs a GP to work out which medications are best.

Keeping your own wellbeing is a priority and is best for your DH and baby. My family lived with my depressed sibling for years. It was absoluutely draining as we pandered to it - mostly because said family member accused us of being unsupportive if we so much as went for a meal out even if they didn't want to join us. I firmly believe it caused the depression in my DM too. I don't want this to be you or your little one in the future.

GiddyRobin · 28/09/2024 00:57

Fuck that.

Sorry, I've all the sympathy and empathy in the world for those suffering with depression, I've experienced it myself and been around it. Grief at the same time. It is not an excuse to detach from family life and leave your partner, quite literally, holding the baby!

My DH had an awful accident several years back. Thrown off a horse and ruined his hip. He was off work for a long time even though it wasn't a physical job. The pain was awful, he was so, so depressed. He still got on with family life. He still parented and did what he could around the house (usually 50/50, but this would have been unreasonable then). He can walk okay now but still has bad pain flares, and it absolutely upsets him when he has to walk with a cane. He's not pouting about it in the fucking car while I'm inside being Mary Poppins.

Your DH obviously needs help, and that's nothing to be ashamed of. But he also needs a kick up the arse because you cannot do all of this on your own. Well, you could but you shouldn't have to! Ridiculous that he won't even spend time with his baby! Jesus Christ.

HoppingPavlova · 28/09/2024 00:47

I don’t know how he can sit downstairs while DD is crying up here because I’ve had to put her down to set the bedroom up for our bedtime routine - if he just held her for those few minutes she wouldn’t have to cry. Or better yet, set the bedroom up

I don’t disagree that your DH is being a selfish twat. You need to prioritise yourself and the baby. However, you are showing some pretty unhealthy behaviour as well. Babies cry. They just do. Trying to tie yourself, and everyone else in knots so they don’t cry is not healthy. It will in no way hurt your baby to cry while you put them down to set up your bedroom, given this takes a standard amount of time and not hours. If you had other children, a toddler etc then sometimes they have the immediate need and baby has to cry for a bit, all normal, no harm done whatsoever. Being less tense about this aspect will likely benefit yourself and DH.

Gatecrashermum · 28/09/2024 00:40

Oh for gods sake, he can't take anti depressants because he's worried about drug interactions?! This is a man doing everything he can to not get help. To keep you absolutely dancing to his tune and pandering to his every whim - while he fucks off to work for long hours, and when he is at home he is refusing to touch the baby and is sucking your energy with long talks about how dreadful he is feeling!

Don't let him suck the joy out of this time - you don't have to put up with this.

His first priority should be you and the baby. If he's that bad he should be off work and putting all his time and energy into housework and child rearing. If he's working long hours that means I expect he could do a good 8 hrs a day of housework and childcare.

I'm being a bit facetious but this sounds like 100% self diagnosed depression which is being used as a stick to beat OP with. I've never heard of depression that prevents you from touching a baby or being alone EXCEPT for when you are sitting in your car.

If it's real then he needs to go to the GP, find an anti-depressant that works with his existing medication. Get signed off from work and chip in at home.

And you absolutely need to get out of the house, with or without baby. Every day and at the weekend.

Make some mum friends and get some support.

SunnyDaze1010 · 28/09/2024 00:37

I wonder if I wrote this! The first year with baby wasn’t the exciting time I expected it to be. It sounded similar to yours OP, but I was the one with family drama, not DH, on top of everything else. The phase, ‘everything changes’ is such an understatement. I took it one day at a time and now my DD is a toddler and it is very different to the first year.

outdamnedspots · 28/09/2024 00:00

TemuSpecialBuy · 27/09/2024 22:13

Would it be cruel of me if he said he didn’t want to go out at the weekend, to leave him at home and take DD out by myself for an hour or two? Even though he doesn’t like being on his own?

Absolutely not.
he is apparently fine sitting in his car on his own... tell him to sit there and do your own thing.

You need to find your anger or at least prioritise yourself.
He is robbing you of this time with your baby - you will never get this time back.
Go to baby classes, sign up for peanut and make some local mum friends. Do whatever you want and go wherever.
Do not let him control you and trap you in your house.

I'd also point out to him that a medical professional is better qualified to tell him what he can and cant take. ALL antidepressants arent incompatible with heart conditions...

Do you have any family or froends who can help or support you or just provide some relief from him???

Edited

Great post

outdamnedspots · 27/09/2024 23:59

Patienceinshortsupply · 27/09/2024 21:49

He doesn't like you leaving him alone but he can sit in the car by himself for over an hour? Love, he's playing you like a violin.

I strongly suggest building YOU a support network because this doesn't sound like a man who wants to help himself very much. We've all got childhood trauma in some ways, I could write a book about my parents god awful behaviour but I'm not inflicting that onto my kids. And neither should he be.

This!

outdamnedspots · 27/09/2024 23:57

Bantai · 27/09/2024 20:34

Funny how often when men become depressed they can work but absolutely no more, certainly no housework or childcare.
Women just limp on somehow and do it all....
How he behaved when YOU were depressed says SO much.

OP, please protect yourself.
Can you go and stay with family?
If you can, do it.
Do not hesitate.
You are so vulnerable.
He will be ok, he is used to putting himself first, as per when you were depressed...he will manage.

You however need to mind yourself as your baby is so dependent on you.
Please seek support and put yourself first.

This.

outdamnedspots · 27/09/2024 23:56

MangoAndLimeNandos · 27/09/2024 19:08

Just because YOU got on with things whilst depressed it doesn’t diminish what he’s going through. He’s struggling and you try to say you are sympathising with him etc but it doesn’t sound like it.

But if HE didn't support her while she was very depressed, don't you think that has coloured her views about how she should act for him? Why should SHE support him?

augustusglupe · 27/09/2024 23:36

Rhaidimiddim · 27/09/2024 23:27

A-fucking-men!
Sorry OP, but you've had a child with a man who is (a) not able to be a parent ( not necessarily his fault, depending on what is wrong with him) and (b) is dragging you down with his problems.

He has a child. If he can't muck in with the parenting, he should at least try not to be a drain on you.

Oh, and - from experience - I suspect another woman on the horizon.

So, please stop centring his feelings and start looking out for yourself and your baby. Soneone has to.

I thought another women too. Is he sat in his car just staring into space for an hour?
I’d start to detach tbh. Put yourself and DD first.