To find the debate around seed oils confusing?

I thought olive oil counted as a seed oil?

Not that Im bothered, I use OO and EVOO and butter, thats it

Cant stand rapeseed oil, it tastes odd to me

As I understand it. Seed oils contain a substance designed to prevents animals noshing them all up so they’re slightly inflammatory. I may be wrong.

My mother, who is nearly 92, uses lard for stews and so on. Her food is extremely tasty, but I won't be following suit in my kitchen.

But your mum’s nearly 92 and still doing her own cooking, so it can’t be all bad surely!?

to add to this there's the problem of a high quantity of "olive oil" apparently being adulterated at source, mixed with inferior quality oil making it really difficult to buy proper olive oil, even reputable brands. :(

scientific food testing is rare apparently as well.

it's a real gamble and i would wager that many people believing they are buying olive oil are buying something that is part olive oil, part cheaper oil.

People who don't fry things - what do you cook?!

I'd say 95% of the things we eat involve frying or using oil before putting in the oven...

Potatoes too get a pre harvest drench of weed killer. Maybe organic ones don’t, I’ve no idea.

i thought the whole controversy around seed oils was the processing of them. That they put them through heavy chemical processes to produce them and that makes them toxic. If they are cold pressed they are safe? How much can one consume before they are harmful?

Way back in the mists of time, we were told that microwaves changed the molecular structure of food and they were the work of the devil. Furthermore if you used plastic wrap before microwaving it made the food cancerous. Turns out the poor rats in the lab were fed for months with food that had been microwaved FOR HOURS through multiple layers of plastic and yup they developed cancer. Make of that what you will.

I think that if you try to stick to foods that are as close as possible to how they came out of the ground, you won’t go far wrong. But I’m not wrangling three kids and a ft job.

I ditched Rapeseed oil when I found out the plants get a pre-harvest drenching of weed killer. I'm not sure if all seed oil plants get the same glyphosate treatment but I avoid them anyway.

Omg the Tik Zok experts

Just to be clear I am not a "dietician", I work for the NHS as a dietitian (proper spelling). It's the nutritionists you need to watch out for - they are not regulated in the same way and are not registered with the HCPC. But crack on and believe whatever you want if you think your nutrition and medical knowledge is better than mine. I have to evidence my CPD every year and it doesn't involve Tik Tok or any other kind of woo 🤣

I thought cold pressed rapeseed oil had the best ratio of Omega 3 to omega 6 to the point it beats EVOO on that. But EVOO has other nutritional
high points. Is that wrong? Help!

I use cold pressed rapeseed oil for mayo and blended olive oil and EVOO for other things.

Rather than butter i use ghee (which can handle higher heat without burning) mostly for cooking and outside of that i use olive oil. Gave up all seed oils a while ago and i feel better for it

Dr Idz on instagram has made quite a few videos about this where he looks at the data from a large number of controlled human studies.

https://www.instagram.com/dr_idz/reel/CqdY52-oW5c/

More than a little. Professor Sarah Berry says there is no reason at all to avoid seed oils. She knows what she's talking about, so I see no reason whatsoever to avoid them.

With all due respect there are contrasting opinions from equally knowledgeable people, I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket so to speak, we are far from being at the stage where we can conclusively say they're not harmful. It is of no consequence to me to stick with olive oil in the meantime, the only downside is cost which I can afford. I don't religious avoid seed oils in prepared foods (which is quite low anyway due to avoiding UPF as far as possible) so I take a pragmatic approach, but for me, it's not worth it to take the risk at this time.

If you follow Dr Sarah Ballantyne’s work she is shifting her old perspectives based on more recent research (Nutrivore scoring). She is also now saying seed oils aren’t bad. So hard to keep up and know what to do for the best. Do the best you can/what works for you I say.

I use Extra Virgin Olive Oil mostly - yes, it’s much more expensive these days but I prefer to cook with something that hasn’t been ultra processed and I’m given to understand that only the EV oil is classed as “minimally processed”. A litre bottle lasts for ages and works out slightly cheaper, but I do appreciate that not everyone could justify £10 in one go just for olive oil.

Other than that I use butter, coconut oil (I use coconut block instead of coconut milk as the latter is a UPF, and the block comes with coconut oil at one end) or fat drained from cooked meat and saved for cooking with.

More than a little. Professor Sarah Berry says there is no reason at all to avoid seed oils. She knows what she's talking about, so I see no reason whatsoever to avoid them.

I read the why we eat too much book and it was eye opening.

I cook with lard, dripping butter or olive oil. Seed oils cause me to get inflammation in my arthritic knees.

I used cold pressed hemp seed oil for everything... cooking and salads.

Lard is so cheap too.

Wouldn’t bother with them. Olive oil is best if you’re using it cold. Butter and lard are best if you’re going to cook with them. (Did a unit on this in my OU degree, and immediately switched back to cooking with lard).

I think it’s impossible to avoid it completely and still lead a relatively normal life. The best we can do is be aware and try to mitigate where we can.

I cook with olive oil, ghee, dripping and lard. Use EVOO and avocado oil for dressings/marinades and slap butter on anything else. Also eat oily fish a few times a week.

I hope that all the ‘good’ fats outweigh the bad fats that I can’t realistically avoid.

Are all seed oils bad? What about sesame oil?

It’s really difficult to find certain food that don’t have rapeseed oil.

The two that come to mind are mayonnaise and hummus. Even the ones that claim to contain olive oil still have rapeseed oil as an ingredient. Hunter Gatherer mayo and Waitrose hummus being the exception.

Yes I can and sometimes do make my own. Trying to avoid rapeseed oil, especially when eating out, is increasingly difficult.