Child identifies as a wolf ... WTF?

That 1) there is no compelling evidence anyone identifies as an animal to the same extent as a trans person identifies as the opposite gender

And how are you measuring the extent to which someone 'identifies' as something else. What metrics?

2) that I think its far more likely someone could have a condition that led them to believe they were a different type of human (so still able to engage with the world as they always have, just differently presented) than a different type of animal

But why? If a condition can led them to believe they're another sex, why not other conditions that would lead them to believe they're another race, age, ability level, or indeed species?

And what if I think that’s primarily a fetish thing ( tons of evidence to back that up.

a quick google will find you tons of people identifying as animals some have even had surgery to look like cats and lizards and stuff, not much different to so-called gender affirming surgery. You’d be called a bigot by some of them if you told them they were just dressing up to look cute.

I don't believe men can become women. However we all know this is a disorder some men have. We see trans women out and about. We read articles about them. We know they exist.

There is no evidence of "children identifying as wolves" in the same way. Some kids wear cat ear headbands. Meh. They are cute. Ariana Grande wears them. It doesn't mean they think they are cats.

I think believing a man can be a woman or vice versa shows no critical thought or observation and it certainly has no depth to it.

if the brain can go wrong and make you feel like a man when you’re a woman why can’t it make you think you’re a wolf? Although I tend to think it’s more of a grooming issue in a lot of cases. You have to have a strong stomach to google adult furries.

Exactly. I think cat owners may believe this myth because they never actually see them going. The neighbours get that honour.

That 1) there is no compelling evidence anyone identifies as an animal to the same extent as a trans person identifies as the opposite gender 2) that I think its far more likely someone could have a condition that led them to believe they were a different type of human (so still able to engage with the world as they always have, just differently presented) than a different type of animal (so not able to engage with the world in the way a human does).

I think "well people believe they can be the opposite sex so why wouldn't they believe they can be a cat" is a facile argument that has no depth of critical thought or observation applied to it.

Yes but a transwoman is not manifestly a woman are they? It’s not much of leap. It’s ridiculous, yes, but you can hardly be surprised kids are being so confused.

Not at all, like I said my sister is a teacher that would not entertain this stuff at all. But the fact is there are various lobby groups and training/resource providers who do push this stuff and many schools use them and end up with a skewed idea of things. There are also some worrying LGBT groups in some schools.

There was a girl of around 10/11 in the play area of the local woods the other day, with a fox tail and ears. She was jumping on all the picnic tables. Her mother sat chatting and didn't once tell her to get down.

The fact finding in the R4 programme is is well worth listening to and quite far from the speculation on the thread. (4m 15 to 5m45)

Personally I think there should be a lot more encouragement for people to look outside of themselves, rather than all this obsession with their own identity. To function healthily in this world requires an understanding of it and the other people in it. If a young person is spending large parts of their day preoccupied with themselves, who or what they are, the presentation they give of themselves to the world, they are missing out on crucial opportunities to learn about others. Emotional intelligence and awareness is hugely important and self absorption blocks this learning.

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Wait. I know a child who identifies as a wolf?!?

she kept scratching my kids and hissing at her……and trying to bite her.

Well yes it's about logic. What's your point about?

I’d report them immediately to my safeguarding lead as they are damaging their child.

We are not told anything. We address the kids by their name on the register and that is it. In most professions there are idiots, your example is obviously an extreme case. This thread is suggesting the teaching profession has an agenda and I find it insulting. It’s utter madness.

Because trans people manifestly are humans. sorry, I don't understand your point. It seems to be a logical point rather than reality based.

It is the parents facilitating it. ‘You can’t punish my child for biting another child. They are therian’

I am a teacher! I have been for over 10 years. I have read them. They’re saying kids are coming in saying they’re an animal. Quite frankly you can say you identify as a watermelon but it doesn’t mean you get to sit there all day and act like one! No teacher has said they are indulging it or encouraging it. It would be an instant safeguarding or mental health issue and dealt with through that channel. Parents and children would not be privy to that information or the consequences of it.

I am baffled as to why people think teachers are sitting around encouraging young people to act as animals?

My 14 year old daughter is at a girls’ school. Apparently there are a number of pupils who identify as furries. I have tried to understand what this is, it’s baffling, I just can’t keep up with it all but I’m not sure it makes any difference to me 🤪

So the programme is about "a bit of reporting about a child in Scotland who is said to identify as a wolf".
I'm still in the "photos or it didn't happen" mindset and think it's an overexaggeration. There have always been these unfounded fears about youth culture - goths, emos, death metal etc all at one time or another held up as a sign of moral decay and poor parenting, which was nonsense if you actually knew any goths/emos/metallers. I suspect this is just more of the same.

Off to listen to the rest now

Thats not the point though. If you can be one thing you are manifestly not, why not another?

And furries are humans pretending to be animals. There are additional dimensions, but the same at its base.

Because we’re all told you have to affirm identities or you’re the problem. I’ve known plenty of teachers who’ve discussed their private lives with kids (often very inappropriately) one of the worst offenders ended up being done because he had images of child and animal abuse on computer! Most teachers are amazing (my sister is one) but we can’t pretend there aren’t a few bad apples with their own agendas.

It's a fad. It'll pass. Pick your battles.

Maybe chat to some of the teachers on the thread who confirm this is real?